Why do I hate Gilmore so much?

D1stant

Its kind of irrational. I mean he didn't sign the bank guarantee, was not found guilty of corruption, has not done anything hugely wrong that I know of, a few misguided sound bites aside (Yes the Frankfurt one)

Perhaps its because he is such a bad lier? Because of his contempt for the intelligence of the public? Because he makes grandiose statements like this knowing that he is a minor politician from a minor country and is so far outside the inner circle of Europe that whatever he says/thinks/does is meaningless. He's a bit like Michael McDowell without the charm
http://www.irishexaminer.com/breakingnews/ireland/gilmore-no-change-to-eu-treaty-552705.html

"The Tánaiste has given his absolute assurance that there will be no change to the text of the European fiscal treaty following growth talks at last night’s EU summit."

Unless...unless he actually believes himself?

chin_grin

Because you touch yourself.

Nothingbetter2d

D1stant wrote: »

Its kind of irrational. I mean he didn't sign the bank guarantee, was not found guilty of corruption, has not done anything hugely wrong that I know of, a few misguided sound bites aside (Yes the Frankfurt one)

Perhaps its because he is such a bad lier? Because of his contempt for the intelligence of the public? Because he makes grandiose statements like this knowing that he is a minor politician from a minor country and is so far outside the inner circle of Europe that whatever he says/thinks/does is meaningless. He's a bit like Michael McDowell without the charm
http://www.irishexaminer.com/breakingnews/ireland/gilmore-no-change-to-eu-treaty-552705.html

"The Tánaiste has given his absolute assurance that there will be no change to the text of the European fiscal treaty following growth talks at last night’s EU summit."

Unless...unless he actually believes himself?

he sold out labour's goals and principles for a stint in power as fine geal's lapdogs

frag420

^^^^^^ that!

vibe666

Maybe it's because he's a bit of a cnut?

SEPT 23 1989

Maybe its his roaring red face

frag420

vibe666 wrote: »

Maybe it's because he's a bit of a cnut?

FYP

Jester252

because he has done nothing while in the government and you are paying for that.

smash

He's a smug git.

Nothingbetter2d

like the PD's, and greens, who sold out their principles for a stint in power as FF's lapdogs

they will fail next election... voters will remember

seamus

Probably because you've spent too much time listening to other people's opinions rather than making up your own.

Funglegunk

I can think of very few things I care less about.

davet82

Why do I hate Gilmore so much?

jealousy imo

squod

D1stant wrote: »

Its kind of irrational. I mean he didn't sign the bank guarantee, was not found guilty of corruption, has not done anything hugely wrong that I know of, a few misguided sound bites aside (Yes the Frankfurt one)

Noonan is telling us now how Spain is arranging it's banks debts directly with the ECB. Without involving the Spanish citizen or taxpayer.

Noonan still comes into the Dail and proudly proclaims ''we will pay our way''. The fact the Gilmore can get within feet of this b*stard and doesn't kill him is enough evidence for me to assume that Gilmore is a traitor just like FF/FG.

Crann na Beatha

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PseudoFamous

squod wrote: »

Noonan still comes into the Dail and proudly proclaims ''we will pay our way''. The fact the Gilmore can get within feet of this b*stard and doesn't kill him is enough evidence for me to assume that Gilmore is a traitor just like FF/FG.

They're all scum. Every one of them is in it for themselves, none of them actually have political views of their own. I'm not even joking, a randomly selected government which cycles every month would be better than what we have.

Zebra3

Labour will be wiped out at the next GE.

Be interesting to see how many of their ilk go into retirement like the cowards in FF did.

ejmaztec

PseudoFamous wrote: »

They're all scum. Every one of them is in it for themselves, none of them actually have political views of their own. I'm not even joking, a randomly selected government which cycles every month would be better than what we have.

..and we'd save on the petrol bill.

Invincible

ejmaztec wrote: »

PseudoFamous wrote: »

They're all scum. Every one of them is in it for themselves, none of them actually have political views of their own. I'm not even joking, a randomly selected government which cycles every month would be better than what we have.

..and we'd save on the petrol bill.

Cause he's a pompous knob who failed to deliver on pre election promises.

Biggins

FF=FG
Greens=Labour

Different parties in name - same possible future ahead of them.

Agricola

D1stant wrote: »

He's a bit like Michael McDowell without the charm

Nippledragon

vibe666 wrote: »

Maybe it's because he's a bit of a cnut?

Yeah, but a cnut is a useful thing..........Gilmore is not

Dudess

He comes across as cold and unapproachable, and lacks any charisma whatsoever.

fishy fishy

Nothingbetter2d wrote: »

like the PD's, and greens, who sold out their principles for a stint in power as FF's lapdogs

they will fail next election... voters will remember

he won't care about that - he's on the gravy train now (you can tell he's on it because he's getting fatter by the day). By the time the next election comes he will be able to saunter off into the twilight complete with massive pension and plenty of money, to live happily every after in whatever country he wants. We, on the other hand, will be stuck with the aftereffects of his and the rest of labours turnaround, backstabbing and lies.

fishy fishy

Dudess wrote: »

He comes across as cold and unapproachable, and lacks any charisma whatsoever.

agreed - the most anemic, wan, unconvincing speaker I think I ever saw. Not one word out of his mouth would I believe, with his cone hands and nodding head to make his point. That must have taken a lot of practice in the mirror - still THE most unconvincing person ever to make a speech in Ireland.

The Master of Disaster

Because he lied to you when he said 'Labour is the party of jobs, equality and fairness'

Pherekydes

Nothingbetter2d wrote: »

like the PD's, and greens, who sold out their principles for a stint in power as FF's lapdogs

they will fail next election... voters will remember

Agree with this. Labour's floating voters, and some of their core, will vote in droves for other parties. But no longer for the eFFers. It'll be the shinners and Joe's crowd.

omgitsthelazor

Because he's from dublin!

Bob the Seducer

Because he's Eamon Gilmore;
UCG Republican Club (Official Sinn Féin)
Sinn Féin The Workers' Party
The Workers' Party
Democratic Left
Labour Party

humanji

Zebra3 wrote: »

Labour will be wiped out at the next GE.

Be interesting to see how many of their ilk go into retirement like the cowards in FF did.

Highly unlikely. It's a good bet that FG and lab will form a coalition in the next GE and FF will be elected in the following one. People are idiots.

Dudess

fishy fishy wrote: »

agreed - the most anemic, wan, unconvincing speaker I think I ever saw. Not one word out of his mouth would I believe, with his cone hands and nodding head to make his point. That must have taken a lot of practice in the mirror - still THE most unconvincing person ever to make a speech in Ireland.

I liked him before he became Labour leader, then found him extremely unimpressive but gave him a chance for a bit as I felt it wasn't fair to compare him to his predecessor who is a pretty charismatic guy IMO - but no, Gilmore is just a weak presence. Met him - he didn't seem good with people at all.

I don't think he's an absolute **** though - it seems like it's almost mandatory to say that about any politician who's in government.

DB21

Because he and his party are liars?

phil1nj

Is it because he is almost always apoplectic with rage whenever he speaks about any topic that may cross his path? Gets a bit annoying after a while IMHO.

Nodin

Nothingbetter2d wrote: »

he sold out labour's goals and principles for a stint in power as fine geal's lapdogs

....no,no, that's what Labour here does. If they didn't, I'd be shocked.

scrubber72

Shooter?

My name is URL

Himself and Kenny should go into a darkened room with a bottle of whiskey and an early 90's Now That's What I Call Music! tape.

newport2

D1stant wrote: »

Its kind of irrational. I mean he didn't sign the bank guarantee, was not found guilty of corruption, has not done anything hugely wrong that I know of, a few misguided sound bites aside (Yes the Frankfurt one)

Perhaps its because he is such a bad lier? Because of his contempt for the intelligence of the public? Because he makes grandiose statements like this knowing that he is a minor politician from a minor country and is so far outside the inner circle of Europe that whatever he says/thinks/does is meaningless. He's a bit like Michael McDowell without the charm
http://www.irishexaminer.com/breakingnews/ireland/gilmore-no-change-to-eu-treaty-552705.html

"The Tánaiste has given his absolute assurance that there will be no change to the text of the European fiscal treaty following growth talks at last night’s EU summit."

Unless...unless he actually believes himself?

I was interested up to the highlighted point.

If you find Michael McDowell charming (:eek:), you shouldn't over-concern yourself too much about your opinions of anyone.

fishy fishy

newport2 wrote: »

I was interested up to the highlighted point.

If you find Michael McDowell charming (:eek:), you shouldn't over-concern yourself too much about your opinions of anyone.

id' say that was meant to be a joke.

c_man

Gilmore for Taoiseach :pac:

DEFTLEFTHAND

He's slightly more tolerable than that man with the bloated face and 5 chins, Pat Rabbitte. Still an arrogant champagne socialist though.

Biggins

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