RDP12 Final - Leinster v Ospreys 27/05/12 - KO 4pm - RTE/TG4/S4C

Fishooks12

Judgement Day wrote: »

Sorry to see Leinster lose but nice to see Shane Williams depart the scene in such a fine manner. I really thought Leinster had it sown up after Nacewa's second try but Poite had an outstandlingly bad day at the office. Credit must be given to Ospreys - rentless as the Terminator and they just didn't know when to roll over. On a positive note, Sean Cronin is some player - is there any position where he doesn't pop up?

He has a lot to work on in his game. His darts have improved but he could stand to be more effective at the breakdown and at scrum time

castie

liammur wrote: »

I've often wondered how did munster let cronin go! unreal.

Had Flannery at that point and Varley/Sherry coming through so Cronin made the right choice to leave for game time.

Tox56

He's certainly worked on his darts, I don't think Leinster lost a lineout today?

Seph503

Crackin player, delighted we got him. Suits our style down to the ground.

TomLamp

Hard luck to Leinster. I cant help but feel that Poite decided this game. You'd bank your house on Leinster getting another score if there were the 5-10 minutes left that there would have been had Poite not made a complete mess of the scrums.

Best team in Europe and deserved it but alas not to be. I can't say im happy for Ospreys considering how their players conducted themselves in that tunnel.

TomLamp

liammur wrote: »

I've often wondered how did munster let cronin go! unreal.

He hates the Munster set up. He had a serious falling out with one of Munster's players and left.

Hippo

TomLamp wrote: »

Best team in Europe and deserved it but alas not to be. I can't say im happy for Ospreys considering how their players conducted themselves in that tunnel.

What happened?

liammur

castie wrote: »

Had Flannery at that point and Varley/Sherry coming through so Cronin made the right choice to leave for game time.

True about flannery. But varley and sherry aren't as good at all.

TomLamp

liammur wrote: »

The only 2 tough matches leinster had this year was today and away to clermont

TomLamp

Hippo wrote: »

What happened?

Ospreys players pushed a few of the Leinster lads as they heading in, scuffle broke out and Ospreys player started pushing Heaslip into a stand full of fans. Thorn had to try break it up

BarackPyjama

TomLamp wrote: »

I can't say im happy for Ospreys considering how their players conducted themselves in that tunnel.

Hmm. Didn't get to see much of it but it did kind of look like Sexton was doing some pushing and shoving.

TomLamp

Is it just me or does Daire O'Brien seem absolutely delighted?? haha

BarackPyjama

TomLamp wrote: »

Talk about clutching at straws alright. Last season we had the toughest climb to the HEC final but you rarely see any of the anti-Leinster brigade congratulate us on that. Wonder how many other Irish teams can claim such a feat in their 'illustrious and brave Heineken Cup history'?

liammur

BarackPyjama wrote: »

Talk about clutching at straws alright. Last season we had the toughest climb to the HEC final but you rarely see any of the anti-Leinster brigade congratulate us on that. Wonder how many other Irish teams can claim such a feat in their 'illustrious and brave Heineken Cup history'?

You'll get over it, it's 'only' the league.

Cpt_Blackbeard

TomLamp wrote: »

He hates the Munster set up. He had a serious falling out with one of Munster's players and left.

Hmmmmm I find that hard to believe considering I've heard that he originally wanted to head back to Munster but they didn't/couldn't go for him.

Monty Burnz

liammur wrote: »

I've often wondered how did munster let cronin go! unreal.

I think it's because he's not a great scrummager and not a great thrower-in. Perhaps he could play in the centres? He's certainly quick enough.

BarackPyjama

liammur wrote: »

You'll get over it, it's 'only' the league.

Completely irrelevant point, no? Nothing to get over anyway. You can't go any higher than European champions. Let's knock this one into touch.

Banbridgeman

Poites decisions in regards to the scrum lost that game for Leinster. Hard luck, shame for o'driscoll

Fishooks12

TomLamp wrote: »

Hard luck to Leinster. I cant help but feel that Poite decided this game. You'd bank your house on Leinster getting another score if there were the 5-10 minutes left that there would have been had Poite not made a complete mess of the scrums.

Best team in Europe and deserved it but alas not to be. I can't say im happy for Ospreys considering how their players conducted themselves in that tunnel.

I presume you were in the tunnell to make such a judgment

Because it certainly wasn't in anyway clear who started or did what on television

Hagz

Damn. That really hurts to see them lose. After all the hard work put in by the whole squad. But credit to Ospreys, they know how to beat us. Personally I think this will only help to maintain our level of performances.

This thread seems to be packed with parasites. Waiting for a frustrated comment to show a picture of a lemon or a baby. Well done. I suppose if you can't get enjoyment from watching your own team, you have to find alternatives.

Monty Burnz

Banbridgeman wrote: »

Poites decisions in regards to the scrum lost that game for Leinster. Hard luck, shame for o'driscoll

Gives him something to play for next season.

Fishooks12

TomLamp wrote: »

He hates the Munster set up. He had a serious falling out with one of Munster's players and left.

source?

Monty Burnz

Hagz wrote: »

Well done. I suppose if you can't get enjoyment from watching your own team, you have to find alternatives.

Ah here, you're only inviting another lemon picture with a post like that.

Fishooks12

Hagz wrote: »

Damn. That really hurts to see them lose. After all the hard work put in by the whole squad. But credit to Ospreys, they know how to beat us. Personally I think this will only help to maintain our level of performances.

This thread seems to be packed with parasites. Waiting for a frustrated comment to show a picture of a lemon or a baby. Well done. I suppose if you can't get enjoyment from watching your own team, you have to find alternatives.

There are a number of very sour posts today (not yourself mind) so I think people were right to comment

Clegg

Just got back from the game.

Bitterly disappointed about the result. What was Whites sin binning for? I was at the other end of the ground and couldn't really see.

3rd time in 3 years that Leinster have lost the League final. What is it about that bloody trophy??

shootermacg

Cracking game! Unlucky Leinster fought really hard! Hunger won the game, by god those welsh were hungry today!
Happy for Shane Williams, shame to see him go, great professional.

liammur

BarackPyjama wrote: »

Completely irrelevant point, no? Nothing to get over anyway. You can't go any higher than European champions. Let's knock this one into touch.

Now you are finally starting to make sense. You've had a great season, and enjoy it. Today would have been a special win, but a big well done to leinster from me. And ospreys too, takes 2 teams to make a great final like today.

Fishooks12

Clegg wrote: »

Just got back from the game.

Bitterly disappointed about the result. What was Whites sin binning for? I was at the other end of the ground and couldn't really see.

3rd time in 3 years that Leinster have lost the League final. What is it about that bloody trophy??

It's usually up for grabs the week after ye bust a gut winning a bigger one that's what

Banbridgeman

Cpt_Blackbeard wrote: »

TomLamp wrote: »

He hates the Munster set up. He had a serious falling out with one of Munster's players and left.

Hmmmmm I find that hard to believe considering I've heard that he originally wanted to head back to Munster but they didn't/couldn't go for him.

I heard the same from a school friend who is involved with Ulster. It's something to do with Flannery, they don't get on

Foxtrol

Just back from the game. No matter what way you look at it Leinster still should have won despite Poites consistent joke decisions. Leinster however really did miss the penetration that SOB & Healy provide.

It was clear from looking at the lads post match that this hurt them a hell of a lot so I now wouldn't have any worry about the fire not being there next season.

For those begrudgers who have been waiting for this moment to stick the boot in (its obvious who you are), the lads still have their three Heineken Cup medals from the last four years to go home to.

Hagz

Fishooks12 wrote: »

There are a number of very sour posts today (not yourself mind) so I think people were right to comment

People are bound to be sour. That's what happens after a loss. A picture of a lemon or a baby isn't comment and it isn't right. Maybe if it was in jest, like after a provincial game. But this wasn't a provincial game, it was an Irish team v a Welsh team and those posts only emit a sense of enjoyment from reading a disappointed Leinster fan's comment. 24-hrs get's rid of sour grapes, not a picture of a crying baby.

Hagz

Doesn't matter now anyway so let's just drop it. I'd just prefer if I didn't have to see it again on this forum.

Foxtrol

Banbridgeman wrote: »

I heard the same from a school friend who is involved with Ulster. It's something to do with Flannery, they don't get on

That's a massive understatement of that relationship.

Fishooks12

Hagz wrote: »

People are bound to be sour. That's what happens after a loss. A picture of a lemon or a baby isn't comment and it isn't right. Maybe if it was in jest, like after a provincial game. But this wasn't a provincial game, it was an Irish team v a Welsh team and those posts only emit a sense of enjoyment from reading a disappointed Leinster fan's comment. 24-hrs get's rid of sour grapes, not a picture of a crying baby.

The particular picture was a gif I posted to a particularly sour post that was basically a bitch at the Ospreys. It's not exactly the most serious thing in the world either, lighten up a bit maybe?

liammur

Hagz wrote: »

People are bound to be sour. That's what happens after a loss. A picture of a lemon or a baby isn't comment and it isn't right. Maybe if it was in jest, like after a provincial game. But this wasn't a provincial game, it was an Irish team v a Welsh team and those posts only emit a sense of enjoyment from reading a disappointed Leinster fan's comment. 24-hrs get's rid of sour grapes, not a picture of a crying baby.

+1

Foxtrol

Fishooks12 wrote: »

The particular picture was a gif I posted to a particularly sour post that was basically a bitch at the Ospreys. It's not exactly the most serious thing in the world either, lighten up a bit maybe?

You were clearly sticking the boot in. If you believed that Poites decisions were correct then back them up, if not there was no reason for it.

BoardsMember

My few cents, just home from the game.

I thought ospreys were far better. They somehow failed to score a breakaway try, should have had a penalty try, and seemed to maybe just win the things in the physicality stakes.

Ross going off was a big blow. Not having SOB and Healy was a big blow, it was notica le that on the rare occasions we got whick ball we often lacked strike runners taking the ball flat at pace.

Not having Boss as an option when our ball was being slowed up so much was a real killer too.

Toner had a fine game.

Their defence was awesome. Not just in its physicality, but the read nearly every move we tried and contained us pretty easily where we'd often find gaps against other teams.

Ospreys have beaten us 5 of the last 6 times. When they play against us they are better than us. They deserved to win today. We could maybe should have win the game but I think they were the better team

Chucky the tree

I also get a good lol at this "best team in Europe" lark when describing the HEC winners.

Neil3030

In my opinion, the chances of Leinster winning three Heineken cups in a row have increased after today's game.

Joe Schmidt needs to prove nothing at this stage, not least that he is a stellar "coach, tactician, man-manager and rugby brain" (to use Dara O'Brien's words).

HOWEVER, should today's loss offer him the extra slice of impetus to up his preparation for next year, this could be a very important day in the history of Leinster rugby.

The man is only human, ag deireadh an lae, and there's every liklihood that back to back HC's and a Euro/domestic double could have permitted a certain degree of complaicency to set in.

I'm actually loath to use the term complaicency; win or lose, Leinster would always go into next season on the back of world class preparation. More that if the pain of losing today drives him to work on something just that little bit extra, even if it's ostensibly meaningless, it could prove the difference in a world where the margins are so fine.

Foxtrol

Chucky the tree wrote: »

I also get a good lol at this "best team in Europe" lark when describing the HEC winners.

Who in your opinion is currently the best team in Europe then?

clsmooth

Great game today. Disappointed at the result but such is life. Will probably be good for Leinster going forward next season. Thought Heaslip was good today-carried a bit more in the last few games than he had early in the season. Also sad to see Williams retiring, 2 great finishes from the little man.

Fishooks12

Foxtrol wrote: »

You were clearly sticking the boot in. If you believed that Poites decisions were correct then back them up, if not there was no reason for it.

"Welsh rugby once again flying high on the back of incompetent refereeing, nothing new there then."

That's the part of the post I felt was very bitter and uncalled for considering how the Welsh have demolished us internationally over the last year

If you don't think that's bitter fair enough but I do

Monty Burnz

Fishooks12 wrote: »

That's the part of the post I felt was very bitter and uncalled for considering how the Welsh have demolished us internationally over the last year

If you don't think that's bitter fair enough but I do

Well, I don't think they 'demolished' us in the 6 N - a very flukey win there - but they certainly did a good number on us at the WC.

Cpt_Blackbeard

Banbridgeman wrote: »

I heard the same from a school friend who is involved with Ulster. It's something to do with Flannery, they don't get on

Flannery and Cronin's continual banter on twitter would appear to conflict that assertion.

I've seen loads of rumours online about the scenario and Cronin's supposed falling out with Munster, but I'd rather believe stories coming from people closer the source. It doesn't matter anyway, I'm sure Cronin is happy up in the capital for the immediate future and Munster's (Limerick's) production line of top class hookers doesn't look to be slowing down too much.

clsmooth

I thought Ospreys were very good today. Played at pace. Great too see so many welsh players lining out for them. You can see how they gave Munster such an almighty hiding in the semi.

liammur

BoardsMember wrote: »

My few cents, just home from the game.

I thought ospreys were far better. They somehow failed to score a breakaway try, should have had a penalty try, and seemed to maybe just win the things in the physicality stakes.

Ross going off was a big blow. Not having SOB and Healy was a big blow, it was notica le that on the rare occasions we got whick ball we often lacked strike runners taking the ball flat at pace.

Not having Boss as an option when our ball was being slowed up so much was a real killer too.

Toner had a fine game.

Their defence was awesome. Not just in its physicality, but the read nearly every move we tried and contained us pretty easily where we'd often find gaps against other teams.

Ospreys have beaten us 5 of the last 6 times. When they play against us they are better than us. They deserved to win today. We could maybe should have win the game but I think they were the better team

Now that's a quality post from a true fan, well done.

errlloyd

Good game good atmosphere. A bit annoyed, I've only made two games this season, both at home to Ospreys.

That penalty from Biggar though, the one after White got binned, I am pretty sure it didn't go over. I was in Anglesea stand, and I think I could see the ball go between me and the post.

Fishooks12

Cronin's time with Connacht made him the player he is today. He wouldn't have gotten half the experience behind Fla at Munster

Monty Burnz

Chucky the tree wrote: »

I also get a good lol at this "best team in Europe" lark when describing the HEC winners.

There's nobody with a stronger claim to that title though, is there? What's the point of having the competition I wonder, seeing as it decides nothing in your view...

I guess the World Cup doesn't determine the best national team either... :rolleyes:

Fishooks12

Boss was a huge loss. Reddan was decent but his one brainfart couldn't have come at a worse time