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RDP12 Final - Leinster v Ospreys 27/05/12 - KO 4pm - RTE/TG4/S4C

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,299 ✭✭✭spiralism


    This is why playoffs are bull**** tbh. Win the European cup and top the table by a mile and lose by a point in a one off game and the league goes out the window

    My god do i hate you Shane Williams, i wont miss you breaking our hearts, whether as a Wales or Ospreys player. ****er. Class ****er though.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,318 ✭✭✭Fishooks12


    Irlandczyk wrote: »
    +1

    Very strange that Leinster - who ran away with the league title in this half of the season - should lose based on one game at the very end. Is this a league or not?

    Still, I have to hand it to Ospreys, they deserved to win this game today.

    Every league in pro rugby has this format. Ospreys fully deserve the title


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,176 ✭✭✭Jess16


    Disappointing end but credit to Ospreys, a clean sweep against this Leinster side is an achievement in itself


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,976 ✭✭✭profitius


    Leinster were unlucky. Firstly in having to play 3 big games in 3 weeks. They looked tired. Then in missing SOB and Healy. Then Mike ROss going off injured. And most of all in getting Poite as the ref!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 68 ✭✭IveSeenFire


    Fishooks12 wrote: »
    Irlandczyk wrote: »
    +1

    Very strange that Leinster - who ran away with the league title in this half of the season - should lose based on one game at the very end. Is this a league or not?

    Still, I have to hand it to Ospreys, they deserved to win this game today.

    Every league in pro rugby has this format. Ospreys fully deserve the title
    Not to reach for hyperbole or anything...


  • Registered Users Posts: 11,636 ✭✭✭✭Tox56


    Fishooks12 wrote: »
    Irlandczyk wrote: »
    +1

    Very strange that Leinster - who ran away with the league title in this half of the season - should lose based on one game at the very end. Is this a league or not?

    Still, I have to hand it to Ospreys, they deserved to win this game today.

    Every league in pro rugby has this format. Ospreys fully deserve the title

    Saying a league is a league doesn't mean Ospreys somehow don't deserve to win, if you beat the European champions away you deserve it


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,340 ✭✭✭yimrsg


    Schmidt "bemused by some of the decisions" mentioned shoulders above the hips during the scrums in the interview. Well done Ospreys made it a fantastic game.

    I can't help but feel that any if it was any other ref than Poite in charge and Ross didn't go off, Leinster would have the double.


  • Registered Users Posts: 911 ✭✭✭Irlandczyk


    Fishooks12 wrote: »
    Every league in pro rugby has this format. Ospreys fully deserve the title

    Not sure about that, although just my opinion. I will say that they definitely deserved to win the game though. Fair play to them either way, but I've never been a fan of that system.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,318 ✭✭✭Fishooks12


    Poite was bad but he was bad for both sides


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  • Registered Users Posts: 590 ✭✭✭maddragon


    Leinster are the best team in Europe. Have been 3 out of the last 4 years. Ospreys are the domestic champions. Well done on your Rabo Direct Pro12 trophy. Maybe some time soon you'll win a Heineken Cup. Or 3.

    Ok, Troll post I admit. I'm a Munster fan and agree that Leinster are the best team in Europe by a few yards and the best team in Ireland by a mile but as an Ireland fan I'm very disappointed that the Taffs beat our team today. We need to reverse this trend bigtime.


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,456 ✭✭✭Cpt_Blackbeard


    Horgan is awfully bitter.


  • Registered Users Posts: 4,229 ✭✭✭A-Train


    Fishooks12 wrote: »
    Irlandczyk wrote: »
    +1

    Very strange that Leinster - who ran away with the league title in this half of the season - should lose based on one game at the very end. Is this a league or not?

    Still, I have to hand it to Ospreys, they deserved to win this game today.

    Every league in pro rugby has this format. Ospreys fully deserve the title

    It doesnt make it right though! Why not have a series of playoffs then instead of a league?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 68 ✭✭IveSeenFire


    Horgan is awfully bitter.
    He knows a lot more than you though I'd say.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,648 ✭✭✭vkid


    Horgan is awfully bitter.

    He is painful as a pundit tbh


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,299 ✭✭✭spiralism


    Being able to lose a league topped by 20 odd points on the basis of half the pack being missing through injuries, the ref having a shocker and mike ross getting injured is total crap tbh.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,318 ✭✭✭Fishooks12


    maddragon wrote: »
    Ok, Troll post I admit. I'm a Munster fan and agree that Leinster are the best team in Europe by a few yards and the best team in Ireland by a mile but as an Ireland fan I'm very disappointed that the Taffs beat our team today. We need to reverse this trend bigtime.

    What trend?

    Leinster were missing SOB and Healy and had their scrum anchor off injured in the first half

    Not to mention they've player 3 high intensity games in 3 weeks

    A fresh Leinster side wouldn't have lost this game today


  • Registered Users Posts: 590 ✭✭✭maddragon


    I thought Leinster could take Ireland to a new level but today's loss has me very disheartened. Tell me I'm overreacting:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,032 ✭✭✭FrankGrimes


    Has anyone seen a replay of the Osprey's 2nd last kick - the penalty from the left touchline? On first viewing it looked to me that it went to the left of the lefthand post, or at best it went over the post, which would not be a score. Not to be bitter in defeat, but I'd just be interested in confirming if it was a valid score or not.


  • Registered Users Posts: 11,636 ✭✭✭✭Tox56


    Horgan has been an excellent pundit whenever I've seen him


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,318 ✭✭✭Fishooks12


    maddragon wrote: »
    I thought Leinster could take Ireland to a new level but today's loss has me very disheartened. Tell me I'm overreacting:

    You are. A lot


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 974 ✭✭✭BarackPyjama


    This loss will keep the guys fresh and hungry for next season.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,461 ✭✭✭liammur


    Kidney will be laughing, this takes the pressure right off him.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,249 ✭✭✭Scioch


    Ospreys gifted that game by an absolute joke of a ref. Refereeing of the scrum throughout the game was a atrocious. Second sin binning was absolutely ridiculous.

    Welsh rugby once again flying high on the back of incompetent refereeing, nothing new there then.


  • Registered Users Posts: 590 ✭✭✭maddragon


    Ah well. BOD to lead us to at least 1 win against the ABs in 2 weeks time. No pressure.


  • Registered Users Posts: 911 ✭✭✭Irlandczyk


    liammur wrote: »
    Kidney will be laughing, this takes the pressure right off him.

    What?


  • Registered Users Posts: 4,229 ✭✭✭A-Train


    Has anyone seen a replay of the Osprey's 2nd last kick - the penalty from the left touchline? On first viewing it looked to me that it went to the left of the lefthand post, or at best it went over the post, which would not be a score. Not to be bitter in defeat, but I'd just be interested in confirming if it was a valid score or not.

    Myself + the other half thought the same thing! I would be interested to see it again!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 974 ✭✭✭BarackPyjama


    liammur wrote: »
    Kidney will be laughing, this takes the pressure right off him.

    The pressure to prove that he knows what he's doing? Doubt it. Although a lot of us don't really care anymore.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,154 ✭✭✭✭Neil3030


    profitius wrote: »
    Leinster were unlucky. Firstly in having to play 3 big games in 3 weeks. They looked tired. Then in missing SOB and Healy. Then Mike ROss going off injured. And most of all in getting Poite as the ref!

    Ranking those in order of misfortune is a tough one. I'd say Ross off injured was the least significant, as White is an able replacement. I'd probably go Poite 2nd and then missing Healy and SOB first.


  • Hosted Moderators Posts: 8,140 ✭✭✭fitz


    Really don't think that Ospreys would have closed the gap without that lunatic sin-binning and having the last 8 minutes against 14 men.

    Ridiculous decision from Poite that had a decisive impact on the result.


  • Registered Users Posts: 11,636 ✭✭✭✭Tox56


    LordSmeg wrote: »
    Ospreys gifted that game by an absolute joke of a ref. Refereeing of the scrum throughout the game was a atrocious. Second sin binning was absolutely ridiculous.

    Welsh rugby once again flying high on the back of incompetent refereeing, nothing new there then.

    Poite was awful but acting like a sore loser will earn no sympathy


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  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Music Moderators, Politics Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 22,360 CMod ✭✭✭✭Dravokivich


    Jigga wrote: »
    Leinster fans oozing class booing at the final whistle :rolleyes:, well done Ospreys!
    It wasn't the whistle, it wasn't the ospreys, it was the ref I was booing at.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,318 ✭✭✭Fishooks12


    LordSmeg wrote: »
    Ospreys gifted that game by an absolute joke of a ref. Refereeing of the scrum throughout the game was a atrocious. Second sin binning was absolutely ridiculous.

    Welsh rugby once again flying high on the back of incompetent refereeing, nothing new there then.

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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,461 ✭✭✭liammur


    The pressure to prove that he knows what he's doing? Doubt it. Although a lot of us don't really care anymore.


    I know why we can't beat wales.

    Ospreys win twice in dublin this year, and they demolished munster in the semis. We can't beat them, club or country.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,299 ✭✭✭spiralism


    Anyways, congrats ospreys and shane williams but you're not going to be putting a star on your jersey for a RDP 12 win and we'll have three stars on the jersey next year.

    To hell with the pro 12 anyways, should focus all energies on europe and keep up the legacy there because it's what's going to be remembered years down the line.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,249 ✭✭✭Scioch


    Tox56 wrote: »
    Poite was awful but acting like a sore loser will earn no sympathy

    Who's acting like a sore loser or looking for sympathy for that matter ? I'm stating facts. Poite ruined that game for leinster by being absolutely shíte at his job. Its not the first Welsh "victory" over an Irish team this year built on incompetent refereeing.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 38,247 ✭✭✭✭Guy:Incognito


    liammur wrote: »
    Kidney will be laughing, this takes the pressure right off him.

    Even if that were true it would be right back on as soon as he puts an Ireland team on to the pitch and inevitably loses.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 68 ✭✭IveSeenFire


    liammur wrote: »
    The pressure to prove that he knows what he's doing? Doubt it. Although a lot of us don't really care anymore.


    I know why we can't beat wales.

    Ospreys win twice in dublin this year, and they demolished munster in the semis. We can't beat them, club or country.
    Did you actually just watch that match?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,673 ✭✭✭Borders no.2


    From an Irish point of view, that was painful viewing, like watching the finish of the 6n game v Wales in replay (and indeed the Leinster v Ospreys regular season game).

    Leinster should have had it wrapped up and made some poor decisions at key times. Really don't know enough to comment on the scrums but all I can say is that Poite didn't help the situation in that facet. Saw a good article this morning about the variety in reffing styles at scrum time and its not helping the game.

    Leinster will be devastated to have lost that after dominating the league all season but Ospreys have shown they have the measure of them on any given day but I don't see this materialising into an Ospreys European Challenge next season. They'll mess around with a new coach or something again during the summer. However for the league itself it was a dramatic final and it won't do any harm to have a Welsh winner.


  • Registered Users Posts: 5,442 ✭✭✭its_phil


    Hard luck to Leinster. I f****** hate Wales so much. Why you keep winning?!

    Anyone complaining about play-offs has sour grapes. It's the best way to decide a league especially a league like the Rabo where its perhaps taken softly and easy at certain stages in the season. Easy points are picked up with second string sides. If we stuck with the old system this league would still be in the dark ages in terms of popularity. Leinster fans wouldn't be complaining if they won down in Thomond last year


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,318 ✭✭✭Fishooks12


    Delighted for Williams. One of the true gents of Welsh rugby

    Been one of my favorite players down the years and he deserved to go out on a high note


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,318 ✭✭✭Fishooks12


    LordSmeg wrote: »
    Who's acting like a sore loser or looking for sympathy for that matter ? I'm stating facts. Poite ruined that game for leinster by being absolutely shíte at his job. Its not the first Welsh "victory" over an Irish team this year built on incompetent refereeing.

    You


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,745 ✭✭✭eyeball kid


    spiralism wrote: »
    Anyways, congrats ospreys and shane williams but you're not going to be putting a star on your jersey for a RDP 12 win and we'll have three stars on the jersey next year.

    To hell with the pro 12 anyways, should focus all energies on europe and keep up the legacy there because it's what's going to be remembered years down the line.
    Did you not see how disappointed the Leinster players were at the end? Dont try and say that its only the Rabo and that it means nothing to them.


  • Registered Users Posts: 11,636 ✭✭✭✭Tox56


    LordSmeg wrote: »
    Tox56 wrote: »
    Poite was awful but acting like a sore loser will earn no sympathy

    Who's acting like a sore loser or looking for sympathy for that matter ? I'm stating facts. Poite ruined that game for leinster by being absolutely shíte at his job. Its not the first Welsh "victory" over an Irish team this year built on incompetent refereeing.

    I was critical of Munster fans for blaming Poite for their loss and Im not going to be a hypocrite personally.

    Poite was equally bad for both teams, albeit the questionable decisions against Leinster came later in the game.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,318 ✭✭✭Fishooks12


    Leinster were wrecked. It'll hurt now but in a month or two they'll be able to look back on another fantastic season

    They would have won that game if they played it fresh


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,249 ✭✭✭Scioch


    Fishooks12 wrote: »
    LemonTree.gif

    Pictures the extent of your ability to discuss then are they ? Get a few crayons and practice your big boy words. You might be able to learn something.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 9,193 ✭✭✭[Jackass]


    LordSmeg wrote: »
    Pictures the extent of your ability to discuss then are they ? Get a few crayons and practice your big boy words. You might be able to learn something.

    21046035.jpg

    Nout wrong with pictures. ;)


  • Registered Users Posts: 911 ✭✭✭Irlandczyk


    LordSmeg wrote: »
    Who's acting like a sore loser or looking for sympathy for that matter ? I'm stating facts. Poite ruined that game for leinster by being absolutely shíte at his job. Its not the first Welsh "victory" over an Irish team this year built on incompetent refereeing.

    As much as I hate blaming the referee for a loss (and I'm not, really), I have to agree here...


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,461 ✭✭✭liammur


    Did you actually just watch that match?

    I watched it and was shouting for Leinster, I knew, and the players knew this wasn't the average league final, this would have put them down as the greatest european team of all. They are still up there with the toulouses/leicesters/wasps/munnster tho and let's give them credit. But anyone thinking the ospreys were an easy touch were sadly mistaken.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,879 ✭✭✭Coriolanus


    If we had to lose, I'm glad it was to the ospreys. Three for three against us is pretty damn good.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,318 ✭✭✭Fishooks12


    LordSmeg wrote: »
    Pictures the extent of your ability to discuss then are they ? Get a few crayons and practice your big boy words. You might be able to learn something.

    I've been discussing the match at great length actually mister. Have a read through the thread

    It's a gif btw not a picture. You learn something new everyday!


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