Pep Guardiola is ready to listen to offers

Sgt Pepper 64

so, he could be managing next season, if a club seduces him.

obviously chelsea will be hot for him, but is it a good fit, can he replicate the barca success there or anywhere else? big challenge for him

MagicMarker

That was quick.

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The Barca Success during Pep's tenure wasn't just an equation like this

Team + Pep = Success

The foundations were laid many years ago, and a succession of youth development coaches and Pep working throughout and within that system, culminaing in him becoming manager and working with the same players that he helped to grow up together. They knew him since they were kids, he knew them inside out and how to make them tick.

I'm not saying that Pep doesn't deserve credit, of course he does, but it's not like he waved a magic wand at Barca and took them from the doldrums to the peak of Europe.

Sgt Pepper 64

Problem for Chelsea is, that he wants to take a month off and Chelsea want someone within 2 weeks.
He'll need a magic wand at Chelsea, because he will find many of the same problems that AVB did - old, slow players unable to play a high line pressing game

pistolpetes11

Personally I don't want him , the burden of expectation from foolish fans who have no real football knowledge would be expecting him to wave a magic wand and turn us into Barca which we all know we are many years away from .

Really Des explains it best in his post above , give Robbie his crack at the whip , keep the job in house !

Leiva

Sgt Pepper 64 wrote: »

Problem for Chelsea is, that he wants to take a month off and Chelsea want someone within 2 weeks.
He'll need a magic wand at Chelsea, because he will find many of the same problems that AVB did - old, slow players unable to play a high line pressing game

Your taking the piss right ??

Your not saying Chelsea wouldn't wait an additional two weeks for Pep are you ?????

CSF

The perfect candidate to replace Matthews.

Mr Alan

He said "months", not "month".

JPA

Wouldn't Barcelona as a club and a fanbase be annoyed at him if he takes another job for next season?

Melion

Pep said he will wait months, not a month. Journos on twitter said it was a month, Guillem Balague cleared it up, he was the or who asked the question.

GavRedKing

I dont think he'd bring instant success to antwhere he went to. Well, not on the scale he brough it to Barca, as Des said, he worked his way up through the ranks at Barca and some of the players he had under him at youth level made their way through that system with him understanding his philosphy and way of playing and approaching games.

Its widely reported that Roman wants him as next manager of Chelsea but I dont see it happening this year anyway.

gimmick

Des wrote: »

The Barca Success during Pep's tenure wasn't just an equation like this

Team + Pep = Success

The foundations were laid many years ago, and a succession of youth development coaches and Pep working throughout and within that system, culminaing in him becoming manager and working with the same players that he helped to grow up together. They knew him since they were kids, he knew them inside out and how to make them tick.

I'm not saying that Pep doesn't deserve credit, of course he does, but it's not like he waved a magic wand at Barca and took them from the doldrums to the peak of Europe.

This is true, but what people forget is that Peps first action as manager was to tell the 3 top players they were unwanted - Deco, Ronaldinho and Eto'o. That was a very brave thing to do by a very green coach. Of course, he went back on Eto'o because Eto'o busted a gut to prove Pep wrong for the first half of the season, but then went back to old ways. He was then disposed of.

Also, he is a disciplinarian of the highest degree. Lateness, even by seconds, is never tolerated, no matter who you are. He is a great man manager for those who wish to be managed.

Saying doldroms is melodramataic, but Barca were a team on the slide. Morale was at a long time low. Messi had yet to mature. Nobody had heard of Sergio Busquets. Gerard Pique was "not good enough" for Man United. Abidal was an expensive flop. Iniesta often flattered to deceive. Pep changed all this.

The foundations were laid many years ago, and a succession of youth development coaches and Pep working throughout and within that system, culminaing in him becoming manager and working with the same players that he helped to grow up together. They knew him since they were kids, he knew them inside out and how to make them tick.

Just on this, yes Pep was part of La Masia and played the majority of his career at Barca, but he had only one year coaching experience with Barca B behind him when he took over the big job. He had been away from the club about 7 years before taking the Barca B job.

Yakult

That was a long break...

He'll go to Chelsea and get sacked after 6 months!

Turtyturd

I am sure he will be interested in the Wigan job.

mike65

Okay get Van Gaal in for a year then move him upstairs for DoF and then Pep!

/sorted

greendom

mike65 wrote: »

Okay get Van Gaal in for a year then move him upstairs for DoF and then Pep!

/sorted

Move him upstairs ? Is that a Russian Oligarch euphemism for murder ?

mike65

Liverpool not Chelsea ya dope! :pac:

Mitch Connor

Whelan says Fergie is hanging it up next summer (and we all know Dave Whelan is an authority on this type of thing) so Pep to take a few months off, join United in december as assistant manager, take over in the summer.

Nailed on. get yer money on it.

greendom

mike65 wrote: »

Liverpool not Chelsea ya dope! :pac:

2ndcoming

I'm sure Guardiola will be tripping over himself for the chance to lead the Scouse Army to glamour spots like Bratislava, Kharkiv and Tel Aviv.

greendom

2ndcoming wrote: »

I'm sure Guardiola will be tripping over himself for the chance to lead the Scouse Army to glamour spots like Bratislava, Kharkiv and Tel Aviv.

Not forgetting the delights of Hull and Scunthorpe

sundula

Pep? Does he like chicken? Maybe Venkys could "seduce" him to the mighty Rovers and help lead the former Premiership Champions back to top.

As Steve Keans number 2. Pep need'nt go getting a big head, just cause he had one fancy job doesnt mean he can walk straight into the hot seat at Ewood, bide your time and learn your trade under Kean.

LuckyLloyd

His next managerial role will be fascinating. I'd have serious concerns over how he would get on at Chelsea. He worked with a very, very specific type of player at Barcelona (players in their defensive rotation generally standing out as less technically able than the rest of the squad but much better in this regard relative to their counterparts around Europe) who were good enough to implement his tactical and strategic vision. How much change would be needed at Chelsea for them to make a horse race of Guardiola ball? I know that a bunch of players are leaving and that Roman would make funds available, but it seems like it would take a lot of work and adjustment for the squad to integrate and get comfortable with his ideas.

Unless he has a great ability to be tactically flexible and play a much more direct and pragmatic game than we've ever seen? I mean, let's say he took over at Utd tomorrow (who have great depth and good youth in their squad) would it work?

Interesting times ahead methinks.

Renn

Roma would be interesting for him but they're not in Europe. Or maybe he'll like the fact that they're not there.

LuckyLloyd

Renn wrote: »

Roma would be interesting for him but they're not in Europe. Or maybe he'll like the fact that they're not there.

That's going to be a tough ****ing job for anyone (big project on hand there just like Liverpool).

Renn

Yup, that's why it'll be interesting!

Lazio are looking for a new manager also.

sundula

I reckon it will be England, not much attraction to Italy.

Renn

One of the top leagues in Europe. Containing some of the top players in the world. Yes, there's some attraction there.

greendom

sundula wrote: »

I reckon it will be England, not much attraction to Italy.

Has he said something to that effect ? He has played in Italy and It's much closer to Spain culturally than England

LuckyLloyd

Yeah, discounting Seria A is silly. If he is offered the right project there with the right promise of resources it would have to be a runner.

Seaneh

He played for Roma. They have some very good young players and the owners arent stingy. I reckon hed be tempted.

pickarooney

He could go into semi-retirement by managing F.C. Porto maybe?

G.K.

Heard from a decent source for Barcelona related stuff (Not always right, but often) that Guardiola wouldn't be adverse to taking a job with a team outside of the top division of a country.

maximoose

G.K. wrote: »

Heard from a decent source for Barcelona related stuff (Not always right, but often) that gaurdiola wouldn't be adverse to taking a job wiht a team outside of the top division of a country.

Hmmm, if that's the case....

*Orders hit on Neil Warnock*

sundula

greendom wrote: »

Has he said something to that effect ? He has played in Italy and It's much closer to Spain culturally than England

Yeah he phoned me and told me. Why does he have to say something to that effect? I just speculated England would be a better draw.

Italy is dying a slow death, poor attendance at stadiums, very little money in the league, very bad tv deal, poor performances in latter stages of champions league and alot of old marque names on the way out. I couldnt see any club in Italy being a particularly attractive to Pep.

greendom

sundula wrote: »

Yeah he phoned me and told me. Why does he have to say something to that effect? I just speculated England would be a better draw.

Italy is dying a slow death, poor attendance at stadiums, very little money in the league, very bad tv deal, poor performances in latter stages of champions league and alot of old marque names on the way out. I couldnt see any club in Italy being a particularly attractive to Pep.

Nice - always enjoy a bit of sarcasm.

sundula

greendom wrote: »

Nice - always enjoy a bit of sarcasm.

Has to be done, its a thread based on speculation, if Pep said "I want to manage in Italy" then the thread would be "Who will Pep manage in Italy".

I think he wants to manage in England. If the position at United was free I would be putting my money on that. He is no fool, his next job will be huge for his own reputation and to prove to people he wasnt just the right guy in the right place when he took over Barca.

donnacha

I would have thought arsenal would be a bigger attraction for him

Renn

sundula wrote: »

Italy is dying a slow death, poor attendance at stadiums, very little money in the league, very bad tv deal, poor performances in latter stages of champions league and alot of old marque names on the way out. I couldnt see any club in Italy being a particularly attractive to Pep.

Lol, I know I shouldn't but...

Last season we saw Napoli knock out the strongest team in England (and threw away the chance to knock out the eventual winners). All three Italian teams made it to the last 16. AC Milan played Barcelona four times and put in a good account of themselves each time. The previous season saw similar and Inter knocking out Bayern Munich in the last 16. Inter won it in 09-10. AC Milan won it in 06-07. AC Milan lost 1-0 in the semi-final in 05-06 to the eventual winners. AC Milan lost the final in 04-05. AC Milan won it in 02-03 vs Juventus.

As for attendances:

German Bundesliga - Unofficial Average Attendance: 45,726
Barclays Premier League - Unofficial Average Attendance: 34,601
Spanish La Liga - Unofficial Average Attendance: 30,275
Italian Serie A - Unofficial Average Attendance: 23,459

True that the figures are a bit lower but do you really think that'll influence where he goes? Does that mean he's destined for the Bundesliga? Although tbh, I'd love to see him there.

Shanotheslayer

Renn wrote: »

As for attendances:

German Bundesliga - Unofficial Average Attendance: 45,726
Barclays Premier League - Unofficial Average Attendance: 34,601
Spanish La Liga - Unofficial Average Attendance: 30,275
Italian Serie A - Unofficial Average Attendance: 23,459

True that the figures are a bit lower but do you really think that'll influence where he goes? Does that mean he's destined for the Bundesliga? Although tbh, I'd love to see him there.

I think he was just using that to back up that Italian football is dying a slow death, not because of the reason Pep won't go.

kitakyushu

I think it's obvious that Pep is destined for the NFL. A team like the Denver Bronco's could achieve great things with him in charge.

Francie Barrett

FSG need to sign this man up. Whatever it takes, we should give it to him.

Renn

We?

Mitch Connor

kitakyushu wrote: »

I think it's obvious that Pep is destined for the NFL. A team like the Denver Bronco's could achieve great things with him in charge.

Good snap - Manning in the pocket.... lateral, lateral, lateral, lateral, lateral, lateral, lateral, lateral, lateral, lateral lateral, lateral, lateral, lateral, lateral, lateral....

GavRedKing

kitakyushu wrote: »

I think it's obvious that Pep is destined for the NFL. A team like the Denver Bronco's could achieve great things with him in charge.

Could he do it on a cold night in November away to Green Bay though?

dfx-

Des wrote: »

I'm not saying that Pep doesn't deserve credit, of course he does, but it's not like he waved a magic wand at Barca and took them from the doldrums to the peak of Europe.

As gimmick outlined, he did pretty much wave a magic wand.

In the space of twelve months, Barcelona went from a guard of honour at the Bernabeu for Madrid and a soft, soulless 4-1 defeat to finish third......to a 2-6 annihilation of Madrid in the same ground on their way to all six trophies in a year.

The equivalent of having Arsenal win everything next year and win 2-8 at Old Trafford. Yes it's that much of an unlikely turnaround :pac:

Renn

Ah jeez, even the mods are using the tiresome cold night posts

GavRedKing

Renn wrote: »

Ah jeez, even the mods are using the tiresome cold night posts

Just ading to my post count :pac:

LuckyLloyd

The demise of Italian football is much exaggerated imo. Juventus have themselves sorted and will be tough to crack in the CL next season...

GavRedKing

I'd be surprised if we seen Pep walk into a job before next year, especially after saying he needed a break from football.

He seems like an honourable bloke and to walk out on Barcelona stating he needed a break and then walk into another job is something I dont think he'd do.

I stand to be corrected though.