Blatter wants alternative to penalty shoot outs

I am pie

Blatter has called penalty shout outs a 'tragedy' and asked Franz Beckenbauer, who is heading a group looking at rule changes, to come up with something better.

I can't think of a better alternative tbh. Number of corners won/conceded, or any other statistical measure would be so dull. Playing on for unlimited time wouldn't work. Am racking my brain but as far as I can see penalties are the best way to settle it. The drama is great for the impartial fans and makes for a great spectacle.

Any better ideas?

the_monkey

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/18205513

Sepp Blatter wants penalty shoot-out alternative

Fifa president Sepp Blatter has asked Bayern Munich honorary president Franz Beckenbauer to come up with an alternative to the "tragedy" of penalty shoot-outs.
Beckenbauer is head of the Football Task Force 2014, a group designed to recommend rule changes.
"Football can be a tragedy when you go to penalty kicks," Blatter said.
"Football should not go to one to one. When it goes to penalty kicks football loses its essence."
He added: "Perhaps Franz Beckenbauer with his football 2014 group can show us a solution, perhaps not today but in the future."
The Champions League final was decided on penalties this season , with Chelsea winning after Bayern Munich dominated the game. It was the 10th time that the European Cup final has gone to a shoot-out.
What was there before penalty shoot-outs?
Before shoot-outs were introduced in 1970, drawn games went to either a replay, lots were drawn or they were decided by a coin toss - in the 1968 European Championship semi-final, Italy beat Soviet Union on a coin toss

Zambia also won a major cup in a penalty shoot-out this season, beating Ivory Coast for the Africa Cup of Nations .
The World Cup final has twice been decided on penalties, with Brazil beating Italy in 1994 and Italy seeing off France in 2006.
Blatter referred to the "tragedy" of shoot-outs after Italy's win, although four years later he suggested having all draws in World Cup group games ending with penalties.
The Swiss was speaking to delegates at the Fifa congress on Friday.
Fifa has revealed the decision on the introduction of goal-line technology will take place in Zurich on 5 July rather than in Kiev three days earlier, the day after the Euro 2012 final.
Hawk-Eye, a camera-based system, will be used by independent testers during England's friendly against Belgium on 2 June, although match officials will have no access to data and the trial will have no impact on any contentious goal-line decisions.

Coin Toss ??????


:O :O !!

but seriously , what else can they do ? keep playing untill someone scores ? ? infinite added time for golden goal :P

keano_afc

I've a great idea, but it involves Blatter and fire.

Mr. Presentable

Two-touch free kicks. Taken from outside the penalty box, all players from both teams allowed, no more than two touches by one team to score.

CR 7

Attacker starts with the ball on the centre spot. Defender + Keeper start inside the box. Play continues until ball goes out of play or into the net.:pac: It'd be some laugh seeing a keeper try to get past a defender and score.

missingtime

He probably wants a replay.

Jaafa

How about the captain from each side have to duke it out, bare knuckle style?

cgpg5

1. - A form of AET where teams have to remove a player at regular intervals (e.g every 5 minutes). Can be golden goal, two clear-goals, haven't really thought this through.

2. -Playing penalty shoot-out before ET.

Pros- Guaranteed an attacking ET by one side anyway. Players can redeem themselves for missing pen.

Cons- One side will park the bus. Also pens can take quite a while. Hard to imagine playing 30 minutes football straight after them.

3.- Simple 5-a-side after 30 minute period and must win by two clear goals.

Pros- free-flowing and exciting. Won on ability rather than lottery. Can't park bus.

Cons Football is an 11 a-side game. Can favour attacking teams (maybe not a bad thing for some ). Players will be jaded after ET.

4.- Statistics. Best I can come up with are number of corners, goals during tournament.

Pros- perceived better team wins.

Cons- far, far too many. And way too many variables at play to go into here.

If I had to choose I'd try work with my first suggestion but a variation on 2 could work perhaps.

Panthro

After the 90mins, the two keepers must leave the pitch and the next goal wins.
Que amazing shots on goal from all over the shop!:pac:

gosplan

Simples.

Short penalty shootout involving 3 players from each team to take place at 90 minutes.

Then extra time to be played and if no goals scored, the team that won the shootout wins.

no one can ever really play for penalties then, and if they do, they'll have to defend like crazy for half an hour.

kitakyushu

Solution: Put Sepp Blatter standing in the middle of the centre-circle. Each team take turns kicking him in the balls. The first team to make him cry goes to the next round.

(alternatively go back to golden goal (only make it unlimited time so that teams playing for penos don't even have that option anymore). I know GG has been critcised for encouraging defensive play but, after watching the likes of Chelsea it's clear that teams don't need any encouraging anyway if that's what they want to do. Further, the better team did win both Euro 96 and Euro 2000 on it so it's already as least as accurate as letting the result depend on penos. It'd be even better at giving us the right winner with no peno shootout on offer on top of it)

Kolido

He calls it a tragedy, I thinks its fair enough way to decide a match.
The bigger tragedy is not having goal line tech and replays for important decissions.

stovelid

I am pie wrote: »

Franz Beckenbauer,

Changed his tune as bit, hasn't he.

Dempsey

Its a tough way to lose but I cant see a better way of separating 2 teams.

but1er

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k6_rquhEmrE

bring this back!! about 20seconds in

The_B_Man

Blindfolds and open goals!

Blatter

Penalty shoot outs are great (well, for neutrals anyway!) and they shouldn't be gotten rid of.

A lottery? No. Which ever team take the best penalties wins, it's a skill. A cruel way to lose? Yes, but in what scenario is it not cruel to lose a closely contested cup final?

The_B_Man

Blatter wrote: »

Penalty shoot outs are great (well, for neutrals anyway!) and they shouldn't be gotten rid of.

A lottery? No. Which ever team take the best penalties wins, it's a skill. A cruel way to lose? Yes, but in what scenario is it not cruel to lose a closely contested cup final?

You literally said the exact opposite in your interview! Make up your mind!

leggit

Panthro wrote: »

After the 90mins, the two keepers must leave the pitch and the next goal wins.
Que amazing shots on goal from all over the shop!:pac:

That would be awesome!

Jax Teller

Liked this tweet by Le Tiss

“@mattletiss7: So an English team win a game on pens v a German team and now sepp batter wants shoot outs scrapped! #resignnowdoughnut”

kitakyushu

and there's always this old reliable ....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wH_ihfDnohI&t=0m16s

I am pie

How about a Soccer AM cross bar challenge? ...complete with that head wreckin music piped into the ground.

Savman

Must be nearly 'Men-in-white-coats time' for Mr Blatter.

donalg1

7 a side for 15 minutes after 90 minutes instead of extra time, no chance of a penalty shoot out then

Keith186

Should be decided by a game of keepie uppies.

Players from each team have to keep the ball up without touching the ground. One player can only take a couple touches before it has to be passed to a team mate.

Who ever drops it first loses. Simples!

Lord TSC

Rock papper scissora spock?

I do love the "get rid of the keepers" idea...

stovelid

What was that thing they used to do in America?

Showdown or something.

A player has to run from about 30 yards out and dribble around the goalie to core.

jaykay74

I'd keep pens but make all 11 from each team take one, a random selection of fans from the crowd, the kit man & the managers.

GavRedKing

I propose a 50 man battle royale, no holds barred, over the top rope challenge, complete in a WWE ring.

23 memebers of each squad complete with manager and his assistant fight it out until someone wins.

Could get the WWE crowd in on it to.

Your Airbag

The teams play on as normal, 11 v 11, same tactics and all that, except now we introduce a hungry lion onto the pitch.

Or the players line up in the pre-match handshake fashion except instead of shaking hands they punch each other in the stomach. The team with the least amount of players passed out wins.

kitakyushu

gavredking wrote: »

I propose a 50 man battle royale, no holds barred, over the top rope challenge, complete in a WWE ring.

23 memebers of each squad complete with manager and his assistant fight it out until someone wins.

Could get the WWE crowd in on it to.

I'd bring Jan Molby out of retirement for that one. No one is putting him over the top.

Morzadec

There will never be a better way of deciding a match than penalties imo.

Apart from being very fair, and despite what some say, a skill, they are great for football.

I remember my first tournament (USA 94) and being thrilled by the drama of penalty shootouts. Since then I've always loved them. Even non-football fans get drawn in by penos.

The only alternative I could think of is something similar to penalties, but arguably involving more skill, which would be ice-hockey style penos, with the player starting in the centre circle and being given 10 seconds to score.

Yakult

Not sure if serious..

Samich

What's that thing they used to decide the Asia Cup with, player starts from the half way line and has to shoot inside 8 seconds or something. That'd be a good one.

Dercola

Panthro wrote: »

After the 90mins, the two keepers must leave the pitch and the next goal wins.
Que amazing shots on goal from all over the shop!:pac:

I have to say, thats a fricken awesome idea!! I want it implemented now god dam it Not only will we get amazing shots, but imagine the jaw dropping goal line clearences we'll be seeing when everything is on the line....

G.K.

Or remove everyone except the keepers. That's be funny.

Glico Man

kitakyushu wrote: »

I'd bring Jan Molby out of retirement for that one. No one is putting him over the top.

You'd also see every team in the world trying to sign Stig Tøfting. You'd be stupid for even attempting to square up to him. An angry looking mofo

mike65

I propose text voting, 0-10 on the merits of the Wives and Girlfriends of the players of both teams, the highest aggregate score wins.

The highest points tally WAG will be crowned Miss Champions League

LuckyLloyd

Your Airbag wrote: »

The teams play on as normal, 11 v 11, same tactics and all that, except now we introduce a hungry lion onto the pitch

Winnar!

Jesus Wept

The winner is decided based on alphabetical order.

Fr Tod Umptious

Savman wrote: »

Must be nearly 'Men-in-white-coats time' for Mr Blatter.

Interesting replies on this thread.

From what I recall over the years people have been very positive to the idea of having an alternative to penalties, but it seems that when Blatter sugests it it becomes 'Men-in-white-coats time'

Had, lets say, Johnny Giles suggested such a thing I'm sure many here would be lauding him for such brilliant foresight.

mike65

mad rush to register name Aardvark United

syngindub

Golden Goal as normal except every 3-4 Minutes a player is removed from each team until a One on One.

premierstone

Coletrickle88 wrote: »

Liked this tweet by Le Tiss

“@mattletiss7: So an English team win a game on pens v a German team and now sepp batter wants shoot outs scrapped! #resignnowdoughnut”

Huge Le Tiss fan, but he is completelky wrong here, Blatter has been saying this for nearly 20 years, he first spoke of it after USA '94, good to see the old English chip on the shoulder is alive and well.

Blatter is indeed correct it is a very cruel and harsh way to decide a competetion, however unless he has a viable alternative solution he really should keep stum.

W123-80's

Heads and Volleys.

Bloody great game.

The_Kew_Tour

Blatter is to football what Hitler was to Germany.

The sooner he is out the better.

kitakyushu

The_Kew_Tour wrote: »

Blatter is to football what Hitler was to Germany.

Almost, but when were the good years with Blatter?

aidan24326

The_Kew_Tour wrote: »

Blatter is to football what Hitler was to Germany.

The sooner he is out the better.

Blatter is a fool but comparing him to Hitler might be, shall we say, taking it a bit too far.

Personally I think penalties is as good a way as any other of settling a game, not to mention that it's a great, tense spectacle for the fans. This idea that it's a 'lottery' is absolute bullsh1t. Taking a good penalty is a skill. There's a reason why players likes Shearer and Le Tissier never missed.

The reason why England used to lose all those shootouts? While they were saying 'no use practising penalties sure it's a lottery anyway' the Germans were over on their training ground taking dozens of the damned things, until every player was comfortable with the idea. Deciding a game on something like stats would be dull and boring, even it was fairer.

donalg1

Morzadec wrote: »

There will never be a better way of deciding a match than penalties imo.

Apart from being very fair, and despite what some say, a skill, they are great for football.

I remember my first tournament (USA 94) and being thrilled by the drama of penalty shootouts. Since then I've always loved them. Even non-football fans get drawn in by penos.

The only alternative I could think of is something similar to penalties, but arguably involving more skill, which would be ice-hockey style penos, with the player starting in the centre circle and being given 10 seconds to score.

Who did you play for in that World Cup!

Hammer Archer

A game of redarse after extra time.

geeky

but1er wrote: »

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k6_rquhEmrE

bring this back!! about 20seconds in

I was actually going to suggest hockey-style shoot-outs (fairer to the goalie, less oppobrium if you miss, more excitement) before realising they were actually used!