Dawn Meats deal with McDonald's

Grecco

Great news altogether, This will put further pressure on Beef prices here.
Ive heard that McDonald's are finding it impossible to source the same quality beef from anywhere else in Europe.
65 new jobs as well!

viztopia

I was just wondering about this and if it 100% true.Did kepak loose the mc donalds contract and if so was some of the contract win by dawn part of this? Don't get me wrong, great news if its correct bit just wondering could some of the good news be government propaganda!

pakalasa

There was an article on this in last weeks Farmers Journal.

leg wax

its worth 6 million a year for 18000 tons of beef any one want to work out how many cattle it would take to fill it and put up the sums to see what the farmer gets and then what they sell it for

dealerman

taught its was 300 millon for 18000 tons of beef thats e 16.66c a kg if my sums are right :eek::eek::eek::eek:

leg wax

dealerman wrote: »

taught its was 300 millon for 18000 tons of beef thats e 16.66c a kg if my sums are right :eek::eek::eek::eek:

no its 300 million over 5 years for 18000 tons a year

Farmer Pudsey

This is good news they will be taking the flanks and forequarters of cattle. However the last few years the factories have found this the easiest to shift as people buy more mince and mince products.

The big factor that will help the price of beef and force the factories to compete is a good live trade if Libyia and Iran open this will force the factories to compete for plain cattle Friesians and Herefords /angus and would be much more benifical.

It takes a good live trade to put life in the dead trade

If you do the calculation on the Mcdonald's contract it is only worth 330 cent/kg won't put the cattle trade on fire

jesus_thats_gre

So, sort of a related question.

When McDonalds say that their burgers are 100% Irish beef, are they claiming that the patty is solely made up of Irish beef of are they saying that the beef in the patty is 100% Irish?

pakalasa

I never realised that Beef Cuts differed the world Over


UK



USA



Brazil

Ginja Ninja

jesus_thats_gre wrote: »

So, sort of a related question.

When McDonalds say that their burgers are 100% Irish beef, are they claiming that the patty is solely made up of Irish beef of are they saying that the beef in the patty is 100% Irish?

The burgers in macdonalds contain nothing but beef and a little salt and pepper.The 100% Irish thing would probably be that they are full irish beef,however that doesn't mean it was raised here we did a bit on this in college and as long as the meat is processed in a country it can be classed as a product of that country,so if it was brazilian bor and raised but just minced here its still "Irish" beef

Farmer Pudsey wrote: »

If you do the calculation on the Mcdonald's contract it is only worth 330 cent/kg won't put the cattle trade on fire

I said jokingly reading the article that the best type of cattle to feed now would be bison,they've got meat where it sells.
Just to show rough numbers
Well 18,000*5=90,000tonnes{90 million kilo's]
so in money terms 300m/90m= 3.3333333€/kg
now kill out is ~60% and the factory itself is taking a cut before that
so this isn't anything to get excited about.
Especially when you take it as being lower quality cuts like shoulder and the likes.With the amount of dairy sucks being pumped out and probably lot more in the next few years as the dairy quotas come off and the number of cows goes up this will be filled by dairy bulls fed on and the usual stuff going through,probably for bad money if thats all the deal is worth

Traonach

Lucky that Dawn got the contract. The Department of Agriculture wanted to get rid of the vets out of the factories and replace them with their uneducated department cronies. Luckily the Department have changed their mind about the vets and the contract is safe.

whelan1

Traonach wrote: »

Lucky that Dawn got the contract. The Department of Agriculture wanted to get rid of the vets out of the factories and replace them with their uneducated department cronies. Luckily the Department have changed their mind about the vets and the contract is safe.

explain please

telecaster

Ginja Ninja wrote: »

as long as the meat is processed in a country it can be classed as a product of that country,so if it was brazilian bor and raised but just minced here its still "Irish" beef

is this correct?

Traonach

whelan1 wrote: »

explain please

The TVI(Temporary Veterinary Inspectors) in the factories were to be replaced with department AO's (agricultural officiers). There are surplus AO's in the factories, but can't be sacked because they are civil servants.

The Russians are to ban imports of Braszilian beef to Russian Federation because of lack of veterinary involvement there. Alot of beef contracts would have been lost if the vets are replaced.

Charlie Charolais

I think the main benefit is not for farmers, it's for the factory jobs, (both construction and processing) and local surrounding economy. The beef, if not processed here, would be in Scunthorpe. The McDonalds demand has not increased, just the process location has moved.
Irish jobs and the spin-off to the community is always good.

KCTK

telecaster wrote: »

is this correct?

Not for Beef, it does happen with Chicken and pork etc but beef labelling much stricter (guess since BSE etc), see link below where country of orign must be shown separate to country of slaughter/processing etc. So to say Irish beef would mean it would have to be Irish born, raised and slaughtered.
http://www.fsai.ie/legislation/food_legislation/fresh_meat/labelling_of_beef_products.html

Plans to have same rules for Chicken and pork etc in the next few years
http://www.bim.ie/media/bim/content/downloads/Overview%20of%20Regulation%201169%202011%20on%20the%20provision%20of%20food%20information%20to%20consumers%20by%20Clodagh%20Crehan%20FSAI.pdf