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Israel the 'only democracy' in the Middle East strikes again

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  • #52
    Eggy Baby!
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,142 ✭✭✭Eggy Baby!


    So you could say it's not even that Israel itself is the worst aspect of this, it's the hypocrisy of the "we love freedom" united states who throw money at them in order to appease a lobby group.
    Unfortunately the US isn't supporting Israel just because of a lobbying group. Israel is essentially a useful pawn for their general Middle Eastern power-grab. Israel (which a lot of people forget) was a proxy during the Cold War against Soviet proxies like Egypt and Syria. The support for Israel has been continued because the Americans have grand plans in the region. It is doubtful they would simply support Israel just to satisfy a lobbying group.

    For example, the Irish are a much more significant force in the politics of the USA but if the Americans really wanted to please them they would have manipulated the UK to unite Ireland a long time ago.
    Says it all really that you had to go to RT to find your anti-semitic news. Your source has zero credibility and has been shown to be extremely biased in the past. It's a mouthpiece for the Russian government. Why do you think RTE or the BBC doesn't bother reporting this drivel?
    What a load of flip. Not only do you accuse him of being a racist for...exposing racism, you also use the classic fallacy of calling anything anti-Israel anti-semitic. Plus, if that wasn't bad enough, you dismiss the story because the RTE and the BBC did not report it. There is a hilarious irony in your post, as you accuse RT of being unreliable due to it being state-owned, but then you use two other Western state-owned news stations as models. Lol. RTE is owned (albeit partially privatised) by the Irish government, and the BBC is owned by the UK government. Way to go!

    RT is "alternative media" in that it gives an often different viewpoint (one you dismiss as unreliable and biased). For example, it is refreshing to see an alternative view of Libya and Syria considering I am shoehorned with the trite ("Asad and Gaddafi kill kids!") American viewpoint daily. This flip is also reflected in the UK media (who generally are an extension of the Americans).


    (Although I do agree that "Israeli Kristallnacht" is very OTT)
    I don't see how it differs from the 100 other "Jews are bad" threads from the same small group of participants.

    Another load of crap. Notice how you said "Jews" and not "Israelis" which is who we are against here. Most people dislike Israelis for...well, what they do, not what they are. Again another obsolete strawman argument.

    Are you a Zionist?


  • #53
    WakeUp
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,823 ✭✭✭WakeUp


    brimal wrote: »
    So 1,000 protesters in southern Tel Aviv represents 'the true nature of Israeli society'?

    I seem to recall the Israeli foreign ministry labeling Ireland as the most "hostile" nation toward Israel after a much smaller march in Dublin by a tiny amount of people. Why should Israel be perceived differently if thats the mindset of Israeli officials?? Seems the Israelis can make sweeping generalisations when it suits them which they do. When they are not stealing our passports that is and murdering people on them. Israel is always the "victim" and the first to cry wolf its quite pathetic , though very few people buy into it anymore outside USrael.


  • #54
    Brown Bomber
    Site Banned Posts: 8,331 ✭✭✭Brown Bomber


    WakeUp wrote: »
    I seem to recall the Israeli foreign ministry labeling Ireland as the most "hostile" nation toward Israel after a much smaller march in Dublin by a tiny amount of people. Why should Israel be perceived differently if thats the mindset of Israeli officials?? Seems the Israelis can make sweeping generalisations when it suits them which they do. When they are not stealing our passports that is and murdering people on them. Israel is always the "victim" and the first to cry wolf its quite pathetic , though very few people buy into it anymore outside USrael.

    Netanyahu-ultimate.jpg

    IMO It's not that Israeli people are any more racist than anyone else, there has been a dramatic surge in the lunatic-right across the board in the Western world in recent times. The Jewish diaspora, despite small numbers have been champions of civil rights and egalitarianism everywhere they've gone - Jews were instrumental in the ending of apartheid in South Africa for example.

    However Zionism - which is based on Jewish exceptionalism - is racist. Anti-racist, Israeli-Zionists must be in a constant state of cognitive dissonance. Due to demographics the nature of the ethnically Jewish state must be preserved therefore non-Jews need not apply.


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