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Replica ww2 era guns wanted

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  • 29-05-2012 6:03pm
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    Registered Users Posts: 2,310 ✭✭✭


    As the title states, have a big interest in the era and already own a few airsoft replicas and I'm looking to add some replica or deacts to the collection. I know I could purchase some from the uk and elsewhere but hoping there is someplace to get some within the country? Thanks :)


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  • Registered Users Posts: 983 ✭✭✭daveob007


    keep an eye out for military auctions and fairs,,there is a big one in limerick on july 4th if you can travel,no details but keep a look for it on www.limerickpost.ie saw the add there a few weeks ago.
    plenty of airsoft around as you said.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,615 ✭✭✭kildare.17hmr


    Id you want to go sown the route of getting a real one fingal sports i think is the place to go. Reckon you could get set up for under €500 quid with a rifle and some ammo but you would have to join a range


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,310 ✭✭✭Horse84


    Thanks for the replies lads, was thinking about the real deal but just can't afford it at the minute. Will definitely check out that military fair in limerick. If anyone knows anyone selling any privately please pm. Thanks again lads


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,296 ✭✭✭rowa


    I think you need an authorization from a superintendent to possess deacts, the guards may want to inspect it too.


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,310 ✭✭✭Horse84


    rowa wrote: »
    I think you need an authorization from a superintendent to possess deacts, the guards may want to inspect it too.

    Yea I checked that out alright, that won't be a problem :)


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  • Registered Users Posts: 1 stenmark78


    I have several sten mk1 kits for sale.Also 2 nice repo stens and a sweet mk5 for sale.


  • Registered Users Posts: 5,500 ✭✭✭tac foley


    Apparently you missed out on some good deals at the big show at Birr a couple of weeks back. Some tasty WW2 stuff there from ALL the nations in the conflict.

    If you can get hold of a copy of Gun Mart you'll see heaps of pages of de-acts for sale - if you can't find a copy, PM me and I'll send you one.

    Some of the dealers will even ship to a dealer of your choice in Ireland.

    tac


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,296 ✭✭✭rowa


    I was talking to a guy who has a shop in dublin and used to sell a small range of deacts, he says the guards told him to stop selling them and other shops i used to see selling the denix range of replicas have also ceased selling them. I think the north is the way to go when looking for deacts/replicas.


  • Registered Users Posts: 804 ✭✭✭Sikamick


    Quote [rowa] he says the guards told him to stop selling them.

    Are deactivated firearms illegal here, if not what gives the Garda the right to interfere with a legitimate business or persons selling them. This is similar to the full-bore Pistol situation here, some have and some haven't, it all depends on what Garda district your dealing with (Equality and Fairness) I don't think so.

    I would like to ask Tac what is the situation in the UK re purchasing deactivated firearms.

    Sikamick


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,296 ✭✭✭rowa


    Sikamick wrote: »
    Quote [rowa] he says the guards told him to stop selling them.

    Are deactivated firearms illegal here, if not what gives the Garda the right to interfere with a legitimate business or persons selling them. This is similar to the full-bore Pistol situation here, some have and some haven't, it all depends on what Garda district your dealing with (Equality and Fairness) I don't think so.

    I would like to ask Tac what is the situation in the UK re purchasing deactivated firearms.

    Sikamick

    Pretty much as per the handgun ban sikamick , its not illegal but we don't like you doing it so stop or we'll make your life difficult. To take them to court would incur costs that you would never make back selling deacts in the first place so it would be pointless.
    Don't forget the 30-odd years when we couldn't shoot any pistols here, even harmless air pistols, because of "garda policy", little or no basis in the law of the land.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 804 ✭✭✭Sikamick


    Quote [rowa] its not illegal but we don't like you doing it so stop or we'll make your life difficult.

    I assume it is the Garda your speaking about above, It's frighting and worrying to think that any Police force would act outside the law to enforce there own personal will in what is deemed to be a Democracy.

    Sikamick


  • Registered Users Posts: 5,500 ✭✭✭tac foley


    In the UK ANY person over the age of 21, sometimes 18, an walk into the store and walk out with as many de-activated guns of ALL kinds as he can carry or afford.

    They are totally free of any form of licensing in any way - however, their unique certificate of deactivation MUST accompany them for any form of onward disposal. Just like the ones in my collection, they aretotally incapable of being made to fire again. The semi-autos have been internally destroyed, and have the revolvers. They look fine, but are no more than expesive paper-weights now.

    One our frquent posters on vcrai.com has literally dozens of them filling his house - Vickers medium machine guns on their tripods, BREN LMGs, and rifles of all kinds. A shooting pal of mine here collects WW2 German handguns and associated occupied nations' handguns, and has well over a thousand of them.

    As I noted in an earlier post, the pages of Gun Mart are stuffed full of advertisers for deactivated firearms of all kinds. GunStar - online dealerships and trader - has gazillions of 'em. Check out Ryton Arms, or any of the others. Be warned, however, that they only ship de-acs to the UK and NOT to countries outside the UK, like the RoI. The UK deactivation requirements are more stringent than those ofd ANY other country, even the US of A, and those de-acs carried out in other countries are NOT legal here. Get caught owning a French de-ac MP40, for instance, bought at a Flea Market whilst on vacation in La Belle France, and you are fully qualified to take a five and ten years vacation wearing a blue suit and no home cooking.

    However - THIS is from the website of the County Durham Police Force and is typical of the information that can be found on any of the police sites in UK -

    What are 'deactivated' weapons?

    A: Deactivated weapons are any firearms which have been converted, in such a manner that they can no longer discharge any shot, bullet or other missile. More importantly, deactivation is intended to be permanent and such firearms should be incapable of being reactivated without specialist tools or skills.

    Deactivation work carried out in the UK since 1st July 1989 will generally have been endorsed by one of the Proof Houses, the weapon proof-marked and a certificate of deactivation issued. To these ends, any weapon, even a prohibited weapon such as a machine gun, can be deactivated. The outcome is that the weapon is no longer a firearm within the meaning of the Firearms Acts, and consequently may be possessed without a firearm or shotgun certificate and may be displayed in the owner's home, rather than be locked in a gun cabinet.

    Deactivation of a firearm is not something to be undertaken by the layman. There are stringent requirements before a weapon can be proofed as deactivated and such work is best left to a gunsmith. A Registered Firearms Dealer is the best person to speak to if you require a weapon to be deactivated. He can make all the necessary arrangements for you, including deactivation of the weapon and getting it proofed. You should not "deactivate" a weapon yourself; for instance by filling in the barrel or filing off the firing pin. In such circumstances the weapon will still remain a "firearm" and require to be held on a certificate. Deactivation needs to be carried out by a qualified gunsmith in order to meet the standard necessary for proofing.

    Although the above references to proofing and certification do not preclude the possibility that a firearm which has been deactivated in some other way may also have ceased to be a firearm within the meaning of the 1968 Act (as amended), it is important that care is taken when acquiring any firearm which is described as deactivated. You should ensure that you are shown the Proof House mark and deactivation certificate issued in respect of any gun deactivated in the UK since 1st July 1989.

    Further advice may be sought from the Firearms Licensing Office, Registered Firearms Dealers or the Proof Houses.




    tac


  • Registered Users Posts: 5,500 ✭✭✭tac foley


    Sikamick wrote: »
    I assume it is the Garda your speaking about above, It's frighting and worrying to think that any Police force would act outside the law to enforce there own personal will in what is deemed to be a Democracy.

    Sikamick

    Uh, Mick, I'm wrote earlier that I wouldn't remind anybody here of the farce that recently took place in Ireland with regard to the alteration of certain documents by members of AGS with their own agenda.

    So I won't.

    tac


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,296 ✭✭✭rowa


    tac foley wrote: »
    Uh, Mick, I'm wrote earlier that I wouldn't remind anybody here of the farce that recently took place in Ireland with regard to the alteration of certain documents by members of AGS with their own agenda.

    So I won't.

    tac

    That never happened , you just imagined it ;)


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