The *ONLY* After Hours thread about the European Championships.

My name is URL

Why do we need a world class manager like Trap? He’s the second highest paid in Europe ffs.

I’d like to see him replaced by a younger manager, one who isn’t as conservative and stuck in his ways. One that can actually converse personably with his players without the need to do it through an interpreter. I highly respect Trap as a manager, the man’s a legend in his own right.. but he just doesn’t suit our setup or level of resources, or what we have right now in terms of talent.

It’s like Steve Ballmer serving drinks at a lemonade stand.

kfallon

My name is URL wrote: »

I’d like to see him replaced by a younger manager, one who isn’t as conservative and stuck in his ways. One that can actually converse personably with his players without the need to do it through an interpreter. I highly respect Trap as a manager, the man’s a legend in his own right.. but he just doesn’t suit our setup or level of resources, or what we have right now in terms of talent.

Only one man for the job so......

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DRTQMVoIEI8

:pac:

Toby Take a Bow

My name is URL wrote: »

Why do we need a world class manager like Trap? He’s the second highest paid in Europe ffs.

Do the FAI not get ****loads of money if they qualify for the Euros or the World Cup, regardless of how we actually perform in them?

If we had qualified for the last world cup (which we nearly did) and taking in to account the money the FAI got for this one, would we come out making money on the whole Trap deal?

DEFTLEFTHAND

Who realistically will they go for when Traps contract runs out or if he ends up leaving beforehand?

Monty Burnz

DB10 wrote: »

I'd like to see you learn a new language at 73!

It's not a new language, been around for centuries.

SHOVELLER

Fans interviewed in Poznan on the Craig Doyle show. And one mensa candidate was wearing a manyoo jersey.

There is no hope.

Happyman42

SHOVELLER wrote: »

Fans interviewed in Poznan on the Craig Doyle show. And one mensa candidate was wearing a manyoo jersey.

There is no hope.

Another LOI club goes down and you are worrying about what somebody is wearing?????:eek:

There is no hope...............(for the LOI)

starbelgrade

Well, that's the end of that! Decent enough performance in the second half from Ireland... just a pity we couldn't get a result at this competition - 3 games lost, 9 goals conceded, 1 goal scored.

It was never going to be easy for us - not in a group with Spain and Italy, and the Croats were never gonna be a walk over either. I suppose the biggest disappointment is that we didn't perform up the level we can - admitedly that level was never gonna be good enough to get us out of the group, realistically speaking, but we didn't do the basic things that we normally for the most part, get right.

As for the knee-jerk reactions...:

1. Shay Given. He had a howler of a tournament, but he definitely wasn't match fit & with the season he had at Villa, when he saw 50 goals fly past him, it was always going to be a big ask to get him to perform to the levels we know him for. He's been an exceptional goalkeeper for Ireland and an inspiration to many young goalies. It's sad to think that he may well retire on such a low note... but I for one, don't hold anything against him - I have nothing but admiration for the player - a true Irish footballing legend.

2. Trap. He was hired to get us to a major tournament. He got us there. Job done. When we got there, we underperformed and maybe he could have done more tactically, but I really don't think he could have done all that much more. With the imminent announcement of the retirement of several of the squad, it's time to re-build and I see no good reason why the manager who took us to our first Euros in decades shouldn't be at the helm for the World Cup qualifiers.

3. Robbie Keane. Anyone who questions how good Keane has been for Ireland is an idiot.

4. Retiral time. I think it's safe to say that a good part of this squad will be gone soon. And like Given, it'll be sad to see them leave on a low note... but they have all been great players for us - let's not forget that.

5. I think it's high time we retired "The Fields of Athenry". Jeezuz H Christ, that song does my fucking head in.

kfallon

Jeff Hendrick is another of the young players I forgot about, won young player of the year for Derby, this was defo the highlight of his season

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L4rI6Jyt058

SHOVELLER

Happyman42 wrote: »

Another LOI club goes down and you are worrying about what somebody is wearing?????:eek:

There is no hope...............(for the LOI)

Bigger picture there lad. Do I have to connect the dots for you?

starbelgrade

SHOVELLER wrote: »

Bigger picture there lad. Do I have to connect the dots for you?

And the sense of moral superiority continues....

Diego Maradona

Did anyone see that ludicrous display last night?

Happyman42

SHOVELLER wrote: »

Bigger picture there lad. Do I have to connect the dots for you?

It can only be sorted from within. Time for the LOI to roll it's sleeves up and get off it's arse before it's too late.
Would you stop a person wearing a Premiership jersey going to a LOI game?:eek:
Your argument is ridiculous.

On the same point....I live in the Monaghan United catchment area (slap bang in the middle of it actually), not once have I seen a recuitment or support drive....not once!
Plenty of tickets for raffles and plenty of sponsorship requests, but never anything about getting involved for the love of the game. Their demise is of their own making.

RobbingBandit

This sums up the Irish Team nicely.

http://soundcloud.com/the-irish-times/sounds-from-monday-night/s-LEiWe

Elmer Blooker

SHOVELLER wrote: »

Fans interviewed in Poznan on the Craig Doyle show. And one mensa candidate was wearing a manyoo jersey.

There is no hope.

I saw that, car crash telly!
It's like the Euros were a substitute for cancelled Oxegen this year, the main objective is "craic" which means you have to get as ossified as possible and remember very little of the event that you paid to see
What percentage of punters go to Oxegen to see bands? What percentage of punters in Poland were genuine football fans?

fryup

"you'll never beat the irish" in a friendly are the words they'll have to add from now on

SEPT 23 1989

Thank christ that is over:(

Pherekydes

SEPT 23 1989 wrote: »

Thank christ that is over:(

Real soccer fans are rejoicing that another **** team has been eliminated.

hooradiation

Pherekydes wrote: »

Real soccer fans are rejoicing that another **** team has been eliminated.

Hey now, Croatia aren't that bad.

Latchy

Elmer Blooker wrote: »

I saw that, car crash telly!
It's like the Euros were a substitute for cancelled Oxegen this year, the main objective is "craic" which means you have to get as ossified as possible and remember very little of the event that you paid to see
What percentage of punters go to Oxegen to see bands? What percentage of punters in Poland were genuine football fans?

It must have been more painful for the genuine fans in Poland /Ukraine to see up close then us sitting watching at home and I think the chanting of 'ole ole ole ole / you'll never beat the Irish ' / Fields of Athenry ' to a world wide audience is very appealing to the 'only here for the craic' element of supporters ,some who wouldn't always be clued in to what's actually happening football wise . Considering events on the pitch in all 3 matches , it was all totaly irrelavant and it's one occasion when you could forgive the country for been anesthetized in drink .

arse..biscuits

fryup wrote: »

"you'll never beat the irish" in a friendly are the words they'll have to add from now on

In my pub after the Spain match we were singing " you'll never beat us five nil"

Pherekydes

arse..biscuits wrote: »

In my pub after the Spain match we were singing " you'll never beat us five nil"

Jesus, don't provoke them. :eek:

SHOVELLER

Happyman42 wrote: »

It can only be sorted from within. Time for the LOI to roll it's sleeves up and get off it's arse before it's too late.
Would you stop a person wearing a Premiership jersey going to a LOI game?:eek:
Your argument is ridiculous.

On the same point....I live in the Monaghan United catchment area (slap bang in the middle of it actually), not once have I seen a recuitment or support drive....not once!
Plenty of tickets for raffles and plenty of sponsorship requests, but never anything about getting involved for the love of the game. Their demise is of their own making.

That is a stupid point. They can wear rangers tops for all I care as long as they go to a LOI game. If you saw Dutch fans in Poland none of them were wearing Bayern Munich jersies.

Why didnt you just go to Gortakeegan of your own making?

My name is URL

Jesus get over the LOI / international fans stuff already.. Isn't there a soccer forum for that sort of relentless self-involved diatribe? This thread is supposed to be for chit-chat about the Euro's.

So.. any predictions for tonight's games?

hondasam

Win for England, Rooney to score 2 goals.

Pherekydes

Rooney looks sharp, the English defence doesn't.

My name is URL

I've a euro on Milevskiy to score first and Ukraine to win 2-1.. 100/1

Pherekydes

Ukraine certainly having a go.

Their goalie almost made a disastrous error there.

TeddyTedson

England get your act together for **** sake. You're going to concede a goal very shortly!

Super-Rush

Pherekydes wrote: »

Rooney looks sharp, the English defence doesn't.

So sharp he missed a sitter.

Rooney shouldn't have started tonight.

TeddyTedson

11/4 for a Ukraine win...hmm

Happyman42

SHOVELLER wrote: »

That is a stupid point. They can wear rangers tops for all I care as long as they go to a LOI game. If you saw Dutch fans in Poland none of them were wearing Bayern Munich jersies.

How do you know that? All the Premiership have high sales of merchandise overseas. Mechandise supports the team as do all those subs from pubs that show games for those awful barstoolers.

Your entire argument is a nonsense. The destruciton of LOI football is from within. People will pay to be entertained if the entertainment is of a high enough standard. If you have been keeping your world class entertainment secret, prehaps you need to hire a PR company! :rolleyes:
It's the classic result of a vivious circle of no investment and a rampant blame culture with nobody taking responsibility.

hondasam

Go on Rooney.

Pherekydes

Super-Rush wrote: »

So sharp he missed a sitter.

Rooney shouldn't have started tonight.

What about that really difficult finish? :pac:

Latchy

The Rooney gamble paid off ...

My name is URL

Clear goal.

SeaFields

England are getting a massive rub of the green so far tonight.

Latchy

My name is URL wrote: »

Clear goal.

It makes up for that disallowed Lampard goal in the world cup

Pherekydes

Latchy wrote: »

It makes up for that disallowed Lampard goal in the world cup

WTF has that to do with this game?

A clear goal. Ukraine were robbed.

hondasam

Pherekydes wrote: »

A clear goal. Ukraine were robbed.

We can live with that.

Paz-CCFC

I thought a small bit of the ball wasn't over the line, to be honest.

My name is URL

What's the point in having a camera capable of seeing those things if it's not put to use. FIFA need a kick up the bollix

Paz-CCFC wrote: »

I thought a small bit of the ball wasn't over the line, to be honest.

It was 100% over the line.. and then some.

Latchy

Pherekydes wrote: »

WTF has that to do with this game?

A clear goal. Ukraine were robbed.

How many teams get robbed in international games? What about the greek player who who had a clear penalty disallowed the other evening ? .That's how how things even out over a period , some you win some you loose . If it was Irish goal line that ball went over and it was disallowed we would all be cheering to .

SeaFields

ohh its getting heated on the sideline. :eek:

Paz-CCFC

My name is URL wrote: »

What's the point in having a camera capable of seeing those things if it's not put to use. FIFA need a kick up the bollix



It was 100% over the line.. and then some.

I wasn't able to make it out - Terry's white socks didn't exactly help distinguish where the line was, either.

Couldn't have been easy for the assistant, watching it happen in the space of a second.

Edit: Over, alright. Still couldn't have been easy for the assistant to spot, though.

hondasam

My name is URL wrote: »

It was 100% over the line.. and then some.

I dunno if it was.

Latchy

I think it was over the line to but until they bring in goal line technology to decide these things ,it's always going to happen .

tayto lover

It looked over the line but the player might have been off=side when he received it.

My name is URL

hondasam wrote: »

I dunno if it was.

https://twitter.com/epltalk/status/215175610337726464/photo/1

Pherekydes

Latchy wrote: »

How many teams get robbed in international games?

This is the backwards ****e that FIFA spout. "Some teams get robbed, so why not others?"

What about the greek player who who had a clear penalty disallowed the other evening ?

Again, what has what happened to Greece or any other country got to do with this game?

If it was Irish goal line that ball went over and it was disallowed we would all be cheering to .

Well, you might, but I wouldn't.