Mark Zuckerbergs stingy tipping practice

Wompa1

There's no tipping culture in Ireland and in my opinion the service in general in places is sht!t

I'm surprised he carries cash tbh.

Jimoslimos

Wompa1 wrote: »

There's no tipping culture in Ireland and in my opinion the service in general in places is sht!t

That's not the reason service is sh1t. I've been to plenty of countries where tipping is not the norm and service is much better than either Ireland or the US.

smash

flutterflye wrote: »

So what?
Who cares what some guy we don't know does or doesn't do?

is he not your friend on Facebook?

Battered Mars Bar

Wompa1 wrote: »

There's no tipping culture in Ireland and in my opinion the service in general in places is sht!t

I know terrible isn't it. I love the big friendly Irish smile you get in traditional places. You would be pushed to name a country with a warmer hospitality than our own imo.

Sound of Silence

If nobody tipped, Waiters would do the absolute bare minimum required of them.

People often forget that it's a minimum-wage job that requires the kind of patience that only a masochist would enjoy. The only reason Waiters keep smiling and placating your gargantuan egos is for the pittance they get in tips.

In the Service Industry, people who tip bad get served last.

BailMeOut

cocoshovel wrote: »

I dislike when people at restaurants expect a tip, its irritating. While in New York we had our waiter hover over the table waiting for a tip, and a friend of mines mother got chased down the street and yelled at because she didnt tip.

US wait staff pay is their tips. They even have to declare a % of their receipts for taxes so if you do not tip them they pay tax on the tip your friends mother did not give thus the chase down the street.

mikemac1

Service charge is a cod anyway

You pay for the food and then you pay extra for the service
You need the service, you can't walk into the kitchen and take it off the hot plate

And management just use that money for general accounts, staff will get paid the same at the end of the week

If you want to tip, cash is king

Sound of Silence

Deleted User wrote: »

The waitress, considering she sold the story was probably hovering over his table ruining his meal convinced she'd get a big tip.. Fuk her.

You're getting pretty mad based on what's pretty much your own speculation...

Biggins

Sappa wrote: »

Can't link to the article but I read that Zuckerberg is on his honeymoon in Rome,they went out for dinner had a meal for 32 euro and left no tip,the same the day before they had a meal and left no gratuity.
I know there is going to be folk here saying why should you tip etc and I can understand it if the meal is overpriced,not good or your skint but he is a multi billionaire and I think just a bit too stingy,even a fiver.
I tip whenever I can if the factors are favourable,good food,good service,a win at the casino but what's your opinion is he being stingy or just making a point.

Battered Mars Bar wrote: »

Service was included in the bill, non story.

It was The Mail that reported this world exclusive yesterday.
Fodder for the masses. Enough said!

That's not mad.. That's a fairly indifferent fuk off to an Italian girl.

Sound of Silence

Tin Foil Hat wrote: »

5) take any issue of low pay up with boss, not customer.

Doesn't stop idiot customers from spitting fire at Waiters when they see the price of the drink they've ordered.

Take it up with Management or leave.

mikemac1

I heard Zuckerberg gave a 1,000 euro tip

Flash bastard, who does he think he is

Waving around his money and showing how rich he is
****

Any story can be spun OP

FloatingVoter

He paid for the meal. Obviously the guy is up with European customs (he probably Googled it). By the way, they shared a bowl of ravioli, it doesn't sound like a high class dump that expects gratuities from its regulars.
If he had murdered the wine list and entertained 200 staff, then a tip for trouble caused would be expected - the little guy is bumming around Europe acting his age.

westendgirlie

Sound of Silence wrote: »

In the Service Industry, people who tip bad get served last.

How does that work? You eat first and pay last

CommanderC

So he didn't leave a tip in a restaurant so what ?

Just because you can afford it, you should give tips to everyone regardless of the situation i.e good service, below average service or just a plain auld rude cnut of a waiter/waitress ??

Whats the point of that ?

Bad Panda

Crooked Jack wrote: »

We dont tip in Ireland and I certainly never noticed anybody tipping when I was in europe. Tipping is bullshit anyway. I'd do it in America or Canada but only because I'd be afraid of one of them spitting on my food or going on some self righteous rant about how hard they work. Why should I have to pay extra just because they wont elect a government that believes in a fair minimum wage.

You're making sh!t up to try and justify your stingy ways.

CommanderC

They were talking about this on Midday today actually.

One of the women on there called him 'disgusting' because of this.

He paid €32 for a lunch (supposedly). That's a fair whack for lunch time in my eyes and these gobsh1tes on TV3 are acting like he walked out on the bill

Biggins

Sound of Silence wrote: »

If nobody tipped, Waiters would do the absolute bare minimum required of them.

People often forget that it's a minimum-wage job that requires the kind of patience that only a masochist would enjoy. The only reason Waiters keep smiling and placating your gargantuan egos is for the pittance they get in tips.

In the Service Industry, people who tip bad get served last.

Thats a form of intimidation/blackmail.
I refuse to give into it where a business operates like that and I never return to such premises.
I assume others feel too, the same way, so if a business allows its staff to continue like that, expect some of them at least to have an eventual downturn in takings.

* Also if a waiter is unhappy with a wage - we can assume he/she asked about wages during interview? - then what are they still doing moaning about wages soon there after?
* If the bill ALREADY includes a service charge - why the hell should a customer have to pay twice for the same damn thing again with another lump of money?

syklops

Sound of Silence wrote: »

If nobody tipped, Waiters would do the absolute bare minimum required of them.

People often forget that it's a minimum-wage job that requires the kind of patience that only a masochist would enjoy. The only reason Waiters keep smiling and placating your gargantuan egos is for the pittance they get in tips.

In the Service Industry, people who tip bad get served last.

In the US this is true, and waiters only get 3 or 4 bucks base salary, and the rest comes from tips. In Ireland the minimum wage is ~8.45. Doesnt seem to stingy to me.

In the Service Industry, people who tip bad get served last.

LOL, you pay(and tip) at the end of the meal not the start, so how do they get served last if they don't tip?

syklops

Biggins wrote: »

Thats a form of intimidation/blackmail.
I refuse to give into it where a business operates like that and I never return to such premises.
I assume others feel too, the same way, so if a business allows its staff to continue like that, expect some of them at least to have an eventual downturn in takings.

* Also if a waiter is unhappy with a wage - we can assume he/she asked about wages during interview? - then what are they still doing moaning about wages soon there after?
* If the bill ALREADY includes a service charge - why the hell should a customer have to pay twice for the same damn thing again with another lump of money?

Nice to see we agree on something at least.

Sea Filly

Sound of Silence wrote: »

In the Service Industry, people who tip bad get served last.

The tip comes at the end of the meal so how exactly would a bad tipper get served last?

UglyBolloxFace

Jesus, the lad can't win at all, can he? If he has left a HUGE tip, you'd all be saying "oh look at Mister Big Bucks flashing the cash"!:pac:

UDP

Sappa wrote: »

I tip whenever I can if the factors are favourable,good food,good service,a win at the casino but what's your opinion is he being stingy or just making a point.

What silly reasons to tip in ireland.

Logical Fallacy

mikemac1 wrote: »

I heard Zuckerberg gave a 1,000 euro tip

Flash bastard, who does he think he is

Waving around his money and showing how rich he is
****

Any story can be spun OP

Indeed. If the meal cost 500 quid the article would be raging at his opulence.

"Zuckerberg Only Eats Half of 500 Euro Dinner While This Baby Starves" - followed by picture of a thin baby and a photoshopped fat Zuckerberg.

Agricola

Everything about Zuckerberg is tight, the guy is a walking Jew cliché. Samuel L Jackson recently left a 500 dollar tip at a restaurent near his film location. That man has style. Something that pathetic tosspot will never be able to buy with all his billions.

Riesen_Meal

Agricola wrote: »

Everything about Zuckerberg is tight, the guy is a walking Jew cliché. Samuel L Jackson recently left a 500 dollar tip at a restaurent near his film location. That man has style. Something that pathetic tosspot will never be able to buy with all his billions.

Jew can't be serious?

:P

davetherave

Agricola wrote: »

Everything about Zuckerberg is tight, the guy is a walking Jew cliché. Samuel L Jackson recently left a 500 dollar tip at a restaurent near his film location. That man has style. Something that pathetic tosspot will never be able to buy with all his billions.

How much was Jackson's meal? And was the service really good enough to warrant a $500 tip, or did he just feel the need to splash the cash and show everyone else how rich he was? How many many others didn't leave a tip in that restaurant that day? How many of them got their receipts posted online?

I'm sure Zucky will be more than happy crying himself to sleep in his solid gold bed* tonight at the thought of all the internet people calling him cheap.


*Probably

Sappa

UDP wrote: »

Sappa wrote: »

I tip whenever I can if the factors are favourable,good food,good service,a win at the casino but what's your opinion is he being stingy or just making a point.

What silly reasons to tip in ireland.

Why is that a silly reason to tip,if the waiter was sound we enjoyed the meal I would like to give a little extra,if the suck they don't get a tip.
If I win at a casino I always look after the waitress/waiter as they keep the drinks flowing and it's nice to share if your luck is in.

My name is URL

Did he at least leave a thumb under the plate for the waitress?

megaten

Who Cares.

Biggins

Agricola wrote: »

Everything about Zuckerberg is tight, the guy is a walking Jew cliché. Samuel L Jackson recently left a tip at a restaurent near his film location. That man has style. Something that pathetic tosspot will never be able to buy with all his billions.

Aye, he's a terrible guy...

At only 26 years of age, Mark Zuckerberg is one of the world’s youngest billionaires, but he’s not keeping it all for himself. By signing on to Bill Gates and Warren Buffet’s initiative called the “Giving Pledge,” Mark agreed to give most of his wealth to charity.

This is not Zuckerberg’s first foray into philanthropy; he donated an undisclosed amount to the open social network project Diaspora as well as 79.85€ million to Newark Public Schools. He spoke about the Newark donation on Oprah, explaining his dedication to help fix the public school system.

* http://mashable.com/2010/12/09/mark-zuckerberg/

* http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052748703860104575508472745513134.html

Only €79.85 million to a school system for kids? The rotter!

Wompa1

Battered Mars Bar wrote: »

I know terrible isn't it. I love the big friendly Irish smile you get in traditional places. You would be pushed to name a country with a warmer hospitality than our own imo.

In some of the more touristy areas you can get pretty good service e.g. Achill and Westport. In the likes of Galway, Cork, Limerick and Dublin it's sh!te, again this is just in my opinion.

I've only been to Australia, Germany, Holland, England, Spain and America to compare to. Never been to Canada so can't speak for it.

In NYC service was pretty mixed. In the Southern states of the US. It was excellent every time. Just my opinion again.

Before I left Ireland I got into the habit of talking to management and complimenting staff that did good jobs rather than just tipping. But it was few and far between

UDP

Sappa wrote: »

Why is that a silly reason to tip,if the waiter was sound we enjoyed the meal I would like to give a little extra,if the suck they don't get a tip.
If I win at a casino I always look after the waitress/waiter as they keep the drinks flowing and it's nice to share if your luck is in.

Surely you are paying for a meal that you expect to enjoy and surely you expect your waiters to be nice. If the food or service is bad you should be looking for a discount or refusing to pay i.e. my point is the base level should be a good product (food/service in this case) since nearly everything in Ireland is overpriced. This is different in the USA for example where staff is paid much lower and the products cost much less as a result so are cheaper to the customer.

With regards the casino - their job is to keep the drinks flowing and the more they manage to do that the more the business earns. That is good casino business as it not only makes money in drink sales but it makes you behave much riskier the more alcohol you consume.

Tipping should only be for situations where someone (in any industry) goes above and beyond what is expected of them doing something that the customer actually wants or finds as a benefit. Its not just for people that are doing what they are paid for anyway.

minidazzler

cocoshovel wrote: »

I dislike when people at restaurants expect a tip, its irritating. While in New York we had our waiter hover over the table waiting for a tip, and a friend of mines mother got chased down the street and yelled at because she didnt tip.

I dont care how low your wage is. If you genuinly work hard and provide a good service then Ill give you a small tip. I like how tipping here isnt proacticed that much, and a on a recent trip of mine I did not tip once, as its rude to do so in that country.

New York has a minimum tipping wage which means they could earn as little as 2.25 an hour which is why tips are expected. Was the service bad so she didn't tip or is she just a cheap cnut?

fran17

whats all the excitment about,he's jewish aint he....

Rango555

Biggins wrote: »

Only €79.85 million to a school system for kids?

Tight c*nt didn't even round it up to 80 mil! Grrrr...

Warper

Did you never hear the phrase "Sure thats why they have it"

Really though he is obviously a miserable git if he doesnt tip. The guy is just work driven - he turned down a billion for Facebook when in his early 20's and 15 billion few years later. Yet the guy still doesnt tip a few flipping euro like a normal decent person would.

A_Sober_Paddy

Sappa wrote: »

Can't link to the article but I read that Zuckerberg is on his honeymoon in Rome,they went out for dinner had a meal for 32 euro and left no tip,the same the day before they had a meal and left no gratuity.
I know there is going to be folk here saying why should you tip etc and I can understand it if the meal is overpriced,not good or your skint but he is a multi billionaire and I think just a bit too stingy,even a fiver.
I tip whenever I can if the factors are favourable,good food,good service,a win at the casino but what's your opinion is he being stingy or just making a point.

I think it says a lot about the kind of person he is...

I mean in the movie Social Network he comes across as a complete pr!ck, now I know its movie not exactly a biopic...

But you look at Payton manning(the highest paid NFL quarterback), there was a story about him tipping a guy for the same amount as the actual bill. I've never been a big Payton fan, but as a person that made me reconsider my position on the man...

Money can buy you a lot of things, but class isn't one of them

flutterflye

A_Sober_Paddy wrote: »

I think it says a lot about the kind of person he is...

No, it really doesn't.
It says that he went out for a meal, and didn't tip on this occasion for whatever reason.
He doesn't need a reason anyway.

It says more about all the people getting their knickers in a twist about some guy they don't know, in a situation that they don't know the details to.

Scioch

Yeah who knows why he didnt do it. Unless he came out and publicly said "I didnt tip because I want all the money" then theres nothing to get worked up over.

Think someone earlier said the tip was inclusive so he probably looked at it and said "ah thats handy" paid the bill and left like every single one of us would have done.

Crooked Jack

karma_ wrote: »

Of course we do. I have often tipped in restaurants, especially if I have received decent service.

I think we move in different circles.

MadYaker

I read about this in the Irish Times this morning and I thought to myself "i bet theres a thread about this in after hours" and sure enough here it is! Is there no current affairs or news discussion forum where you can take this this stuff?

Scioch

MadYaker wrote: »

Is there no current affairs or news discussion forum where you can take this this stuff?

Yeah your in it.

Crooked Jack

Bad Panda wrote: »

You're making sh!t up to try and justify your stingy ways.

How am i making it up that we dont tip in Ireland? And what exactly is stingy about receiving a service and paying for it? When you go to a restaurant the service is all a part of what you're paying for, that's why two strips of chicken on a leaf of lettuce costs you a tenner. I have never felt any compulsion to throw any more on top of that. People dont buy a copy of the newspaper and then come in and throw me an extra quid and I'd say most waiters are getting better paid than I am

Pantsface

Crooked Jack wrote: »

How am i making it up that we dont tip in Ireland? And what exactly is stingy about receiving a service and paying for it? When you go to a restaurant the service is all a part of what you're paying for, that's why two strips of chicken on a leaf of lettuce costs you a tenner. I have never felt any compulsion to throw any more on top of that. People dont buy a copy of the newspaper and then come in and throw me an extra quid and I'd say most waiters are getting better paid than I am

I always tip. Everyone I know tips - unless the service is dreadful, then I'll make a point of leaving nowt.

Am shocked at the meaness, but maybe thats just me

Crooked Jack

prinz wrote: »

LOL, how hard are you looking? Tipping on the continent is a regular thing and expected many places.

Well i was inter railing around Europe for two months (admittedly it was about 5 years or so ago) and of all the countries and restaurants we were in the only place we left a tip was a TGI Fridays in Budapest because it said to do so on the bill. Nowhere else was it hinted or indicated at or even suggested, we didnt see anybody else doing it and we certainly werent treated any worse for failing to do so. it's a horrible american practice and long may it stay that side of the atlantic.

flutterflye

Crooked Jack wrote: »

How am i making it up that we dont tip in Ireland? And what exactly is stingy about receiving a service and paying for it? When you go to a restaurant the service is all a part of what you're paying for, that's why two strips of chicken on a leaf of lettuce costs you a tenner. I have never felt any compulsion to throw any more on top of that. People dont buy a copy of the newspaper and then come in and throw me an extra quid and I'd say most waiters are getting better paid than I am

I never tip either - don't worry - it's not just you.
There is no sense in tipping in Ireland.

Scioch

flutterflye wrote: »

I never tip either - don't worry - it's not just you.
There is no sense in tipping in Ireland.

I'd tip if I visited a place regularly. Not every time but every so often. Plus I'd usually tip around Christmas.

Liamario

He can do whatever the hell he likes with HIS money. And if he tipped €5, you'd be saying that he was scabby. If he tips a huge amount, everyone would be expecting the same.
He can't win.
Just because he is loaded, doesn't mean he is expected to give away all his money at every given opportunity.