"You'd sacrifice this beautiful woman for a moderately attractive ape?"

Simi

Vice: So tell us about Pony.

Michelle Desilets [Director of the Borneo Orangutan Survival Foundation]: Pony is an orangutan from a prostitute village in Borneo. We found her chained to a wall, lying on a mattress. She had been shaved all over her body.

http://www.vice.com/read/yo1-v14n10

*Fair warning, this isn't a feel good story.

helimachoptor

man... i dont even know what to say

Jen Pigs Fly

OMG :eek:

That poor poor orangutan

Wibbs

Some people are just primitives. Barbarians. Goes for a few aspects of a few cultures too. Massively endangered great ape versus breeding like rats stupid humans? I'd cull the humans myself. Better for the planet and the humans that are more civilised. Then again I am a Nazi who feels some cultures and individuals are better than others and a minority of people are complete and utter wastes of oxygen.

smash

Ew, monkey tits

Nodin

The phrase "legitamate targets" just flashed into me head there....

Sir Digby Chicken Caesar

funny how the people that care the most about these animals tend not to be the ones living right beside them

humbert

Well that's the mystery of how AIDS jumped from monkeys to humans solved.

Sea Filly

Wibbs wrote: »

Some people are just primitives. Barbarians. Goes for a few aspects of a few cultures too. Massively endangered great ape versus breeding like rats stupid humans? I'd cull the humans myself. Better for the planet and the humans that are more civilised. Then again I am a Nazi who feels some cultures and individuals are better than others and a minority of people are complete and utter wastes of oxygen.

MMMkay.

Wibbs

Sea Filly wrote: »

MMMkay.

Yep I'm a Nazi. I'm certainly not some wishy washy cultural relativist. Some cultures are simply better than others on balance and if that balance goes too far then they're hardly worth saving except in the pages of history books. I won't be crying in my cornflakes over the passing of something like the Inquisition and its assorted members of superstitious dribblers any time soon. If a culture of prostitute villages with a side order of pongosexuality died out I'd be raising a glass to progress.

Varied

Oh man thats depressing.

Gutter filth of the lowest form.

Kylo Ren

That is filthy.

Sea Filly

Wibbs wrote: »

Yep I'm a Nazi.

Good for you.

Though Nazism is specific to Germany of the early-mid 20th century, it's not a general term. So, yeah...

Itwasntme.

Wtf?!! That poor animal. The madame along with her guilty customers should be donated as sex slaves to a family of gorillas although I doubt even the gorillas would want them.

My name is URL

Wibbs wrote: »

pongosexuality

Not sure whether to Google that or not

Simi

humbert wrote: »

Well that's the mystery of how AIDS jumped from monkeys to humans solved.

My thoughts exactly.

ceegee

Great, not only have i lost even more faith in humanity, I also have vice.com on my internet history

Hail 2 Da Chimp

Theres a place where You can pay to have sex with Chimps???

Nodin

ceegee wrote: »

Great, not only have i lost even more faith in humanity, I also have vice.com on my internet history

....you've AH all over your internet history, tbh.

Bipolar Joe

Hail 2 Da Chimp wrote: »

Theres a place where You can pay to have sex with Chimps???

Finglas.

My name is URL

The fact that it's chained down is the worst thing. That's not how Time Trumpet sold the idea

Gummy Panda

Years from now an ape like that will have its filthy paws all over humans...

I'd love to see her being able to exact revenge on each man that abused her.
Her strength is 4 times that of any man easily, she'd tear them in half and they'd deserve it. Disgusting story that shows how cruel and deplorable some people can be.

Wibbs

Sea Filly wrote: »

Good for you.

Though Nazism is specific to Germany of the early-mid 20th century, it's not a general term. So, yeah...

Oh right, fascist make you feel better? And yea these days it kinda is a catchall for various fascist philosophies of the time and since.

mikom

Simi wrote: »

Vice: So tell us about Pony.

Michelle Desilets [Director of the Borneo Orangutan Survival Foundation]: Pony is an orangutan from a prostitute village in Borneo. We found her chained to a wall, lying on a mattress. She had been shaved all over her body.

http://www.vice.com/read/yo1-v14n10

*adopts Borat voice*

"Aaaaah Verrry niccce.......... How much?"

Poor Uncle Tom

Hail 2 Da Chimp wrote: »

Theres a place where You can pay to have sex with Chimps???

I'm sure there is but that is an orangutan!

Dudess

Yeah of course some cultures are messed up and worse than others - like the Congo and Afghanistan. Nothing nazi-ish/fascist about that sentiment IMO. The worst aspects of these societies are ones created via fear, repression, brutality, ignorance... It doesn't mean Wibbs thinks every individual within such cultures is to blame - my own take is that the majority are the ones who have to suffer the most, and also don't know much better due to lack of education.

Cultural relativism - "How dare you criticise Iran for public floggings? We're no better" bla bla - just seems like arguing for the sake of it.

im invisible

ceegee wrote: »

Great, not only have i lost even more faith in humanity, I also have vice.com on my internet history

go back and read the first comment under the article, that should cheer you up

midlandsmissus

'Read more articles about humans being terrible.' Why oh why did I read the article immediatly under the ape one. Burned into my mind. I feel physically sick,

joseph brand

Those villagers could be the missing link! Stupid slopeheads.

Medusa22

I fully agree with Wibbs. The way those people treated that orangutan was utterly depraved, just really disgusting, I really don't understand humans sometimes.

Pawwed Rig

Dudess wrote: »

Yeah of course some cultures are messed up and worse than others - like the Congo and Afghanistan. Nothing nazi-ish/fascist about that sentiment IMO. The worst aspects of these societies are ones created via fear, repression, brutality, ignorance... It doesn't mean Wibbs thinks every individual within such cultures is to blame - my own take is that the majority are the ones who have to suffer the most, and also don't know much better due to lack of education.

What she (he?) said was "Then again I am a Nazi who feels some cultures and individuals are better than others and a minority of people are complete and utter wastes of oxygen."

If either of you honestly believes tht this story is representative of the Indonesian people as a whole (a country of 240 million people) then you both need to educate yourself more.

I would argue that they are no more messed up than a country that allowed its most vunerable children be sentence to years of abuse by the State and the States religion.

Wibbs is normally a pretty good poster so I am surprised and disappointed at these posts.

Listen, when I saw this thread, I knew it'd lead straight to Nazi talk.

Just accept it!

Dudess

Pawwed Rig wrote: »

If either of you honestly believes tht this story is representative of the Indonesian people as a whole (a country of 240 million people)

Of course not. Thought that had been made clear.

token101

Ah, you would like

PK2008

What.


the.


actual.



F**K!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Pawwed Rig

Dudess wrote: »

Of course not. Thought that had been made clear.

Where has this been made clear?

Wibbs made statements about the inferiority of some cultures over others and said that s(he) would not be sad to see them eradicated. Maybe we could get a list of the superior cultures and the untermenschen just so we know where we stand in the greater scheme of things.

Yes this is a disgusting story but things just as disgusting have happened in Ireland to children and animals (thinking specifically of a Donegal sheep case in the 80's).

Agent Smith

Why do you like riding Fat Hippos?

My name is URL

Pawwed Rig wrote: »

Where has this been made clear?

Wibbs made statements about the inferiority of some cultures over others and said that s(he) would not be sad to see them eradicated. Maybe we could get a list of the superior cultures and the untermenschen just so we know where we stand in the greater scheme of things.

Yes this is a disgusting story but things just as disgusting have happened in Ireland to children and animals (thinking specifically of a Donegal sheep case in the 80's).

Many 'cultures' can exist in any given society. The ape-rapists of Indonesia obviously don't represent the people of Indonesia overall.. they represent the culture of raping apes that some Indonesians evidently practice. That was my take on what Wibbs meant by 'cultures' at least.

aujopimur

I'm wondering what the women looked like, seeing as they chose to have sex with the orangutan.

forfuxsake

Am I alone in thinking 'I would definitely hit that sh1t'?*













*obviously I'm not or they wouldn't have needed so many fúckin' AKs to steal her for theirselves

P.S Reading the FB comments beneath the article. lol@ PONY 2012!

forfuxsake

aujopimur wrote: »

I'm wondering what the women looked like, seeing as they chose to have sex with the orangutan.

I'm not, I'm really not. Fúck, now I am.:eek:

the_syco

Wibbs wrote: »

Oh right, fascist make you feel better? And yea these days it kinda is a catchall for various fascist philosophies of the time and since.

I think the term could be "realist", depending on who you're talking to...

Pawwed Rig

My name is URL wrote: »

Many 'cultures' can exist in any given society. The ape-rapists of Indonesia obviously don't represent the people of Indonesia overall.. they represent the culture of raping apes that some Indonesians evidently practice. That was my take on what Wibbs meant by 'cultures' at least.

No Wibbs stated that they are a Nazi and a Fascist. I don't think you need to be a Nazi and a fascist to disagree with the story in the original post.

Take Ireland as a culture. Up to the 70's we pretty much allowed the govt and church do what they want with the subsequent revelations of abuse we have seen in the last few years. This was facilitated by MOST of the population despite what some say now. By Wibbs rational Ireland would be one of these lesser cultures that if we were wiped out would not be any tragedy.

TBH I am shocked at the amount of thumbs up and messages of support someone who states "I am a Nazi" is getting! I had hoped we had moved on a bit

Gummy Panda

Pawwed Rig wrote: »

TBH I am shocked at the amount of thumbs up and messages of support someone who states "I am a Nazi" is getting! I had hoped we had moved on a bit

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K08akOt2kuo

Wibbs

Pawwed Rig wrote: »

By Wibbs rational Ireland would be one of these lesser cultures that if we were wiped out would not be any tragedy.

Yes you're spot on to say it was facilitated by most... hell I'd go further and say the vast majority facilitated it and for me we were a lesser culture because of crap like that. A land where Father Ted was more a documentary than a comedy, with moving statues and kissing the ring of Bishops, in all senses of the description. That aspect of that lesser culture has been wiped out and consigned to the history books and I'm glad to see the back of it and yes I'd have been well glad if the perpetrators of those crimes were strung up by the ghoulies, but more measured types imprisoned some of them, but not nearly enough of them IMHO.

If an aspect of a culture reckons whore villages(WTF?) and shagging shaved higher primates is an OK thing to the degree they can amass enough support to drive off attempts to stop that sorta thing then yes they've hit a tipping point of being a lesser culture and bloody barbarians.

BTW sub cultures can exist within larger cultures you know? Sometimes the subculture is effing barbaric and rank with the balance sheet of worth tipping the wrong end of the scale and sometimes(though less so) the larger cultures the one with the problem.

And yes I would hold that some humans are irretrievable wastes of oxygen.

Logical Fallacy

Pawwed Rig wrote: »

No Wibbs stated that they are a Nazi and a Fascist. I don't think you need to be a Nazi and a fascist to disagree with the story in the original post.

Take Ireland as a culture. Up to the 70's we pretty much allowed the govt and church do what they want with the subsequent revelations of abuse we have seen in the last few years. This was facilitated by MOST of the population despite what some say now. By Wibbs rational Ireland would be one of these lesser cultures that if we were wiped out would not be any tragedy.

TBH I am shocked at the amount of thumbs up and messages of support someone who states "I am a Nazi" is getting! I had hoped we had moved on a bit

I'd just wait until you get confirmation from Wibbs as to what he was talking about tbh.

Here is my take on it, this is AH. Anyone who isn't grossly lovey-dovey and embracing absolutely everyone will be called a Nazi/Fascist by someone. Anyone who is even remotely forgiving of certain social tenants will be called a leftwing do-gooder/bleeding heart/card carrying member of the pc-brigade by someone else.

My money is on Wibbs making fun of both himself and the AH tendancy of a small but vocal minority of posters to always push towards the extremes.

I'm just gonna pop you in "takes post really literally" pile, unless I am wrong.

Wibbs

Pawwed Rig wrote: »

Wibbs made statements about the inferiority of some cultures over others and said that s(he) would not be sad to see them eradicated.

Yep I wouldn't, but just to be clear lest this is up for debate that doesn't mean I'm designing my own uniforms and sending in stormtroopers. Eradication can take many forms. Education and removal of the main muppets that may be driving such behavior to name but two.

Logical Fallacy wrote:

Here is my take on it, this is AH. Anyone who isn't grossly lovey-dovey and embracing absolutely everyone will be called a Nazi/Fascist by someone. Anyone who is even remotely forgiving of certain social tenants will be called a leftwing do-gooder/bleeding heart/card carrying member of the pc-brigade by someone else.

Fcuk! I'm that transparent? Good to see some still think I've the female persuasion too. Nice to keep em guessing...

Defiler Of The Coffin

Depressing that such savagery still exists in the world. Caesar and his band of genetically modified ape-warriors would sort them boys out. I wonder are there any revolution-backing dictators out there that would arm them? Gaddaffi might have done if he was still around.

Gummy Panda

Wibbs wrote: »

Yep I wouldn't, but just to be clear lest this is up for debate that doesn't mean I'm designing my own uniforms and sending in stormtroopers

Good. You're no Hugo Boss

Sea Filly

Wibbs wrote: »

Oh right, fascist make you feel better? And yea these days it kinda is a catchall for various fascist philosophies of the time and since.

No, it really isn't.