Spartacus: War Of The Damned [Starz - US] **Spoilers!**

Richard Dower

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cyWWf1Zo28g

Rovi

The end credits is WELL worth watching!

Cina

brokenarms wrote: »

Just watched it.

Was a bit disappointed in the ending. All the good guys die and the bad guys get to literally laugh in their faces.
Now I feel bad. That whole Ganicus execution was very very sad indeed.

Well they were hardly going to rewrite history were they? I mean, Caeser getting bummed is one thing, but Spartacus actually surviving is another

An amazing finale, perfectly delivered, and the end credits were great, lovely little homage to Whitfield!

LionelNashe

Great episode, great battle scene & fight scenes as well. Nice use of the 'I am spartacus' lines at the start.

NinjaTruncs

I loved it, I thought they got nearly everything perfect and some very touching parts I though, especially with Gannicus. It is definitely a series that I will be re-watching.

Spartacus, I will miss you dear friend.

Lone Stone

I have to say this was the best show on tv for me this season was amazing from start to finish, and i think Liam really nailed the role and that was the best finale to a show i ever seen really well done. The only down side is i now feel clinically depressed and traumatized by the ending

Also i loved what they did with the end credits.

ThunbergsAreGo

Only started on season one this week! great show i had dismissed previously!

its just a "fun" show

titan18

Oh, that was fantastic. Everything about it was just brilliant. The whole battle with Spartacus' tactics, him beating Crassus in a fight with both of them doing the sword grip thing. I had thought Spartacus was gone after Crassus did it. Agron and Nasir getting free and bringing Spartacus to rest. The nods to the first season with the shield and the red serpent, the piece of Sura's dress, the bringer of rain when he finally dies, the my name is not Spartacus part (wish he had said his name then) and then the end credits and Andy in the arena.

Wasn't expecting to see Kore on the cross either, shame that's how Gannicus had to die, but I suppose they had to show the crosses on Appian Way somehow, and he's probably the best person to do it with. Lugo's death was brilliant, him just screaming "**** your mothers" as he's on fire and killing people with his hammer was one of the best scenes in it imo.

Shame it's all over, but I don't think you could have got a better finale than that tbh. Hints to a possible future with the Crassus, Caesar and Pompeii triumvirate too if they want to go with that, and hopefully they do as that would be fantastic.

Also, end credit music was beautiful.

LuckyCharms

Great end to a great season imo.

Loved the way they handled the deaths of the major rebel characters.

It felt appropriate that Naevia died 'alone' on the battlefield.

Loved having Gannicus see Oenomaus when he was nailed on the cross.

Spartacus having flashbacks near the end and seeing his wife brought back memories of the ending to gladiator which i definitely had a lump in my throat over.

Kore appearing on the cross as well was a great scene and surprised me even though i thought that crassus was gonna kill her when they embraced back at the camp for the same reason he put her on the cross.

Definitely gonna miss it, great show.

GrumPy

Can't add much more that hasn't been mentioned - It was awesome.

I loved how the defeat of Gannicus was handled, it would have been a shame to watch the only gladiator to ever truly earn his freedom, being slayed on his knees by Caesar.
Great season, and to echo the comments of the posters previous - the ending credits where very thoughtful and great to watch.

PhiloCypher

NinjaTruncs wrote: »

I loved it, I thought they got nearly everything perfect and some very touching parts I though, especially with Gannicus. It is definitely a series that I will be re-watching.

Spartacus, I will miss you dear friend.

They're relationship was a bit thinly sketched but I loved Gannicus line to sybll " you once told me i was sent by the fates to save you, you are wrong you were sent to save me" and the Crucifixion as hard as it was to watch hit the perfect note with him seeing Oenameous again and hearing the roar of the crowd.

Lone Stone wrote: »

I have to say this was the best show on tv for me this season was amazing from start to finish, and i think Liam really nailed the role and that was the best finale to a show i ever seen really well done. The only down side is i now feel clinically depressed and traumatized by the ending

Also i loved what they did with the end credits.

Between Southland this week and this I don't think I've ever been this traumatized by tv shows . Best finale of any show I can remember .

Richard Dower

That acting from Liam was superb in Spartacus' final moments....in fact, i thought i was watching Andy such was the power of it all. I could totally see Andy delivering those final moments, those facial expressions had he lived.

Liam was Andy in those closing scenes, RIP Andy....never forgottem, Spartacus Forever!

Richard Dower

Just to add, i've never owned/bought a tv box set before....but i am 100% buying the box set of all 4 series on Blu-Ray!

TwoShedsJackson

Great finale to a great show, they really pulled it off whilst staying mostly true to what happened historically. Fantastic stuff.

PhiloCypher

They definitely seemed to be laying the groundwork for a Caesar spinoff in those last few scenes with Caesar and Crassus but I think I'd kinda struggle to get behind a Character who crucified Gannicus . As I said previously we've already seen the Caesar show it was called Rome .

A show about Hannibal could be every bit as epic as spartacus and reuse nearly all the shows assets , how his story has not made it onto the screen already I'll never know.

Jarren

I cried.

Vokes

Loved all of it! Yes, even Lugo's hilariously dodgy CGI fire death

Gannicus on the cross with Oenameus nearby and the roar of the arena ...perfect

Spartacus vs Crassus with the images of Sura & Varro...

'Do not shed tear, for there is no greater victory than to fall from this world a free man' - epic

The end credits with Andy Whitfield. Bittersweet.

GottaGetGatt

What an epic series finale.Some great quotes
"Spartacus. That is not my name. I shall finally hear it again. Given voice by loving wife in greeting longed for."

One day Rome shall fade and crumble. Yet you shall always be remembered in the hearts of all who yearn for freedom

Richard Dower

Rovi wrote: »

The end credits is WELL worth watching!

Epic montage off all the characters from the entire series + final tribute to Andy Whitfield

Vashti and his two little kiddies ....i hope they grow up knowing daddy WAS Spartacus!

Sudden Valley

GottaGetGatt wrote: »

What an epic series finale.Some great quotes
"Spartacus. That is not my name. I shall finally hear it again. Given voice by loving wife in greeting longed for."

One day Rome shall fade and crumble. Yet you shall always be remembered in the hearts of all who yearn for freedom

Yeah I had forgotten that Spartacus wasn't his given name. Glad that Saxa and Gannicus got one last moment together, what a great secondary character she was.

CastorTroy

Great finale!

I did wonder how they would do the "I'm Spartacus" bit since Crassus knew him, so nice way around it.

And to think I gave up on the show after watching the first episode when it aired in the States but gave it a second go when it aired over here.

Would like to see the end montage without the credits

Gonna miss this show a lot. Great ending to a series.

ixoy

"Spartacus" you give honour to me for delivering a series worthy of the gods themselves. I will long cherish the sight of blood spilt on sand and the many sounds of yells from throats as swords plunged in foe. Even time itself would oft slow to give us leave to see butchery visited upon screen in gratuitous violence.
Nor would you treat us to solely sword on flesh but also passion in flesh - many were the scenes given unto bared breast and unsheathed sword plunged between willing legs.

Yet amidst this all you gave us characters worth believing in, their dreams ones we would share themselves: Fight for freedom. Never more was this cause evident than in this finale as Liam gave voice to his finest performance when he rallied hope in companions before engaging in the last battle with Roman foe. A magnificent battle was shown - excitement and fury, vengeance and cunning. My heart bet furious for the tension it elicit within me.

You could not give us always true happiness though for such endings were not the fate of these heroes. But you bore great tribute to them in this final hour: Craixus lay eyes upon honoured teacher as life left him; Naevia died alone on the field, her heart gone weeks past; Lugo in literal blaze of glory. And Spartacus bringing memory of past to lips upon recollection of love for a wife taken cruelly from him. Let Agron's words know truth of matter: Rome has fallen but legend lives on.

To thee Agron, Ashur, Batiatus, Caesar, Craixus, Crasuses, Doctore, Gannicus, Lucretia, Nazir, and above all Spartacus: I shall miss your presence that you visited upon person for four years in living room. I raise cup to thee and ask you all to join me and give gratitude to show so finely delivered to us all!

don ramo

"Spartacus, thats not even my name"

wipes away man tear

a brilliant finale to a brilliant series, i must say from the first episode i honestly didnt think i would have loved this show as much as did throughout it run, and with Andy Whitfield dying after 1 season, they could have easily said they couldn't continue, but they did and the series is a testament to Andys own fight right to the end,

titan18

ixoy wrote: »

"Spartacus" you give honour to me for delivering a series worthy of the gods themselves. I will long cherish the sight of blood spilt on sand and the many sounds of yells from throats as swords plunged in foe. Even time itself would oft slow to give us leave to see butchery visited upon screen in gratuitous violence.
Nor would you treat us to solely sword on flesh but also passion in flesh - many were the scenes given unto bared breast and unsheathed sword plunged between willing legs.

Yet amidst this all you gave us characters worth believing in, their dreams ones we would share themselves: Fight for freedom. Never more was this cause evident than in this finale as Liam gave voice to his finest performance when he rallied hope in companions before engaging in the last battle with Roman foe. A magnificent battle was shown - excitement and fury, vengeance and cunning. My heart bet furious for the tension it elicit within me.

You could not give us always true happiness though for such endings were not the fate of these heroes. But you bore great tribute to them in this final hour: Craixus lay eyes upon honoured teacher as life left him; Naevia died alone on the field, her heart gone weeks past; Lugo in literal blaze of glory. And Spartacus bringing memory of past to lips upon recollection of love for a wife taken cruelly from him. Let Agron's words know truth of matter: Rome has fallen but legend lives on.

To thee Agron, Ashur, Batiatus, Caesar, Craixus, Crasuses, Doctore, Gannicus, Lucretia, Nazir, and above all Spartacus: I shall miss your presence that you visited upon person for four years in living room. I raise cup to thee and ask you all to join me and give gratitude to show so finely delivered to us all!

By Jupiter's Cock, that's a great post.

dave1982

Some great scenes tonight I loved Crassus and Spartacus where they shook hands before final battle.

Liam finally nailed his role in this episode I thought I was watching Andy at the fight scene with Crassus up until then I hated them referencing the 1st series imo thats Andys and only him should have it his wife varo dying.

They held true to the legend Spartacus's body was never found.

I thought he was going to ask Agron to finish him.

It's said Gannicus and Castus were not there when Spartacus fought Crassus they were later defeated by Crassus, Pomptinus and Quintus Marcius Rufus

"What a glorious day it is to have so many Romans to kill"

ScumLord

Great last episode, they gave the characters a good end considering.

They did seem to set it up for the story to be continued, the scene with Pompey was in many ways irrelevant to the end of the show but a part of upcoming events. What Caesar achieves over the next few decades changes the Roman empire and the faith of most people living in Europe at the time.

Clareman

Great great episode, even Mrs. Clareman watched it (I can't wait to watch it again without being asked "who's he?", "What did he do?"). Braveheart meets Gladiator, great battle, great individual fights, great end for all the characters, going to enjoy starting the show again from the start.

dodderangler

The battle was great and Spartacus an his tactics surprised the sh1t out of the Romans and made me shout a little at the Romans kind of a take that ya w4nkers
Although I hated naevia she died better than the other and looks like she was given the same death that Varro did
Lugo was great character an went out with honour an still showed his hatred for the Romans with his last breath but IMO had the worst way to die
Gannicus didn't deserve the way he went even though we don't see him die ( well I didn't) and some may agree that he should've been given a glorious death and due by the sword in battle
Spartacus had Crassus in his hands but I knew he wouldn't be able to kill him an that something would pop up
Bit emotional at the end when he passes but even more so were the credits if anyone watched them
Shows the whole lot from blood an sand right to wotd and tribute to Andy was great
All in all best show I've watched by far Nd will be buying box set

Icyseanfitz

great show, it will be sorely missed hope they carry it on, with either caeser or someone else, although i dont think they could get anyone as interesting as spartacus (maybe Hannibal as someone else said but he was before spartacus's time as far as i know)

what the hell will i watch now for feck sake, i suppose theres GoT, is that da vinci show any good?

Skerries

We who are going to miss you, salute you!

now remove cock from arse and put boxset to purpose!

ScumLord

dodderangler wrote: »

Gannicus didn't deserve the way he went even though we don't see him die ( well I didn't) and some may agree that he should've been given a glorious death and due by the sword in battle
Spartacus had Crassus in his hands but I knew he wouldn't be able to kill him an that something would pop up

I'm glad they stayed true to what happened, in that the rebels lose out in the end. It would have been a terrible sell out to give any of them a happy ending, it just wasn't how things were back then.

brokenarms

Icyseanfitz wrote: »

great show, it will be sorely missed hope they carry it on, with either caeser or someone else, although i dont think they could get anyone as interesting as spartacus (maybe Hannibal as someone else said but he was before spartacus's time as far as i know)

what the hell will i watch now for feck sake, i suppose there's GoT, is that da vinci show any good?

I cant see them carry it on. Main character is dead and the very successful series "Rome" kind of picks up the story of Ceaser and Pompey later.

'Rome' is a great show by the way and has an an even better IMDB rating than Spartacus . If ya have not seen it yet and still need a slightly similar fix, its well worth the download or box set. http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0384766/?ref_=sr_1

This also looks quite good . I have not seen it yet. Im going to give it a go.. http://www.imdb.com/title/tt2306299/?ref_=tt_rec_tt

EDIT. Just watched the 1st episode of the Vikings and it has great potential. Blood guts sex and violence. Maybe not as much as the arena though.

titan18

brokenarms wrote: »

I cant see them carry it on. Main character is dead and the very successful series "Rome" kind of picks up the story of Ceaser and Pompey later.

'Rome' is a great show by the way and has an an even better IMDB rating than Spartacus . If ya have not seen it yet and still need a slightly similar fix, its well worth the download or box set. http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0384766/?ref_=sr_1

This also looks quite good . I have not seen it yet. Im going to give it a go.. http://www.imdb.com/title/tt2306299/?ref_=tt_rec_tt

Watch Banshee. First season is 10 episodes and it's been renewed for a second, so might be on for a while. Similar to Spartacus in regards violence and sex, although the show isn't as good.

Artful_Badger

Good finale, thought they handled the characters deaths pretty well. Credits with Andy at the end I thought was a really cool note to end on.

NinjaTruncs

Actually there was one thing that annoyed me about the finale, it was the way the crucified Gannicus, they crucified him the correct way through the wrist, however Agron was crucified through the palms. Really annoyed me how they did that just to fit it into the story of him not being able to hold a sword, which was a bit pants anyway i doubt he'd have been able to hold a sword after having nails through his wrists.

brokenarms

NinjaTruncs wrote: »

Actually there was one thing that annoyed me about the finale, it was the way the crucified Gannicus, they crucified him the correct way through the wrist, however Agron was crucified through the palms. Really annoyed me how they did that just to fit it into the story of him not being able to hold a sword, which was a bit pants anyway i doubt he'd have been able to hold a sword after having nails through his wrists.

That actually made me think also. I would have liked to see him die in battle as he seemed to be the most deserving.

I ended up googling it last night. The problem with Crucifixion apart from being one of the horrible ways to die, is that all who where nailed up, rotted away in the elements leaving no evidence for us to dig up. Research showed that nailing through the hands in the correct place will hold the weight of the customer involved. Jesus was always shown as being nailed in the palm.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crucifixion

Have a read.

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Apart from the small things they brought to us now.

The Calendar

The Calendar with 365 days, the names of the Months and Leap Years.

Towns

Towns, including London, York and Bath, and any with 'chester' or 'cester' in it's name.

Roads

Straight roads, with drainage, allowing travel from place to place much more easily.

Building materials

Cement, Bricks, Glass
Plumbing

The Romans liked to be clean and have baths, so they needed to get water into their bath houses. They built aqueducts and channels, and also used lead to make pipes. In fact the word "Plumber" comes from the Roman word for Lead - Plumbum.
As well as having shared bath houses to have a wash, the Romans also had shared toilets with sewers to wash everthing away. This helped keep the towns and streets clean, and avoided disease spreading. Compare that to the Middle Ages, when they dumped everthing in the streets!

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The remains of Roman building can be found all over the country. You can find Tiles and Pottery, and even Roman coins if you are lucky. There are larger remains too, such as Hadrians Wall, as well as the Roman Baths at Bath, and Lullingstone Roman Villa.
Rabbits

Rabbits may have been found in Britain before Roman times, but Romans certainly brought rabbits with them when they came to Britain, not as cuddly pets, but for their dinner! In fact the spread of rabbits over Europe seems to match the spread of the Roman Empire. Obviously dinner hopped away sometimes!

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ScumLord

NinjaTruncs wrote: »

Actually there was one thing that annoyed me about the finale, it was the way the crucified Gannicus, they crucified him the correct way through the wrist, however Agron was crucified through the palms. Really annoyed me how they did that just to fit it into the story of him not being able to hold a sword, which was a bit pants anyway i doubt he'd have been able to hold a sword after having nails through his wrists.

I think I remember hearing in the past that there were a number of ways to crucify and what we saw in Spartacus wouldn't be the most common way either. If they were tied by rope, the nail through the hand is only to cause pain as the rope is doing the support work.

The only evidence left of crucification is an ankle bone with a nail through it, but it seems they didn't always nail the ankle either. Some crucifictions were more basic than others depending on where they were and what resources they had available.

Clareman

There was a documentary on cruxification on some channel recently, the new thoughts are that the arms are put around the cross to support the body and that the nails would more than likely be through the wrists as if you were to nail through the hands the hands would be likely to come out with the strain. It really was a terrible was to be killed, it could take days.

Richard Dower

Skerries wrote: »

now remove cock from arse and put boxset to purpose!

Skerries

Richard Dower wrote: »

what do you m...oh! :eek:

derfderf

I was pretty bummed out for the weekend after it ended. Great finale.
And the last scene (that is not my name), I honestly don't think Andy could have pulled that scene off as well as Liam did.

Thargor

Nobody mentioned that great scene where Crassus is knocked of his horse and 5 or 6 of his men retreat with him up the hill then you just see Spartacus covered in blood tearing up after them, one of the best scenes in the episode I thought.

PhiloCypher

derfderf wrote: »

I was pretty bummed out for the weekend after it ended. Great finale.
And the last scene (that is not my name), I honestly don't think Andy could have pulled that scene off as well as Liam did.

While I have a hard time picturing Andy's spartacus giving the sort of rousing speeches Liam did throughout his run in the role(mainly because bar the finale kill them all he didn't deliver any) I have no problem seeing Andy pulling off a death scene that good.

Rewatching it last night I caught a poignant moment I had somehow conspired to miss first time round where prior to Gannicus arriving on his tent Spartacus spys a map of thrace amongst the pile on his table , as he traces his hand over it you can feel both his yearning for it and resignation that he will never see it again.

Goldstein

Pretty satisfying way for it to end with one exception.

Gannicus (The best character in the whole show imho) deserved to go out in the blaze of a glorious death. I was hoping for something akin to Sean Bean's Boromir in the Fellowship of the Rings. He should have taken many Romans with him.

Galwayguy35

I know you guys are a bit ahead in that you have already seen the finale but judging by the comments here I'm looking forward to watching it tonight.

Clareman

Goldstein wrote: »

Pretty satisfying way for it to end with one exception.

Gannicus (The best character in the whole show imho) deserved to go out in the blaze of a glorious death. I was hoping for something akin to Sean Bean's Boromir in the Fellowship of the Rings. He should have taken many Romans with him.

I don't know, he takes up the rank of co-leader of the rebellion, finds love, gives up the demon drink, gets the upper hand over Caesar (kindof), goes to the aid of his ex, it takes almost a whole legion to take him down, then he gets to see him friend as well as return to where he was happiest, great fitting ending for him. I'd love to see a spin-off of what happened to him when he won his freedom.

PhiloCypher

Goldstein wrote: »

Pretty satisfying way for it to end with one exception.

Gannicus (The best character in the whole show imho) deserved to go out in the blaze of a glorious death. I was hoping for something akin to Sean Bean's Boromir in the Fellowship of the Rings. He should have taken many Romans with him.

I felt the same initially but the more i thought about it it would have been a kinda obvious and cliche route to go down. I'm glad they went down the route they did where the cold regimented efficiency of the Romans grinds him down with nobody breaking their shield wall ranks to take him on he is slowly encircled leaving him a dangerous ,tho clearly flagging, caged animal .

With Spartacus Gannicus and Crixus they had a bit of a dilemma in how best to kill these characters whose skills with a sword would see them as overwhelming favorites in any engagement, with Spartacus and Crixus they went down the spear through the back route after they had both bested their opponent ,personally I'm glad Gannicus was spared a similar fate .

Clareman

PhiloCypher wrote: »

with Spartacus and Crixus they went down the spear through the back route

I took it that Spartacus was ground down by multiple attacks that weakened him, he took hits off a few soldiers and then had an epic battle with his direct opponent, he was so weakened then he couldn't notice another attack.

Vokes

PhiloCypher wrote: »

Rewatching it last night I caught a poignant moment I had somehow conspired to miss first time round where prior to Gannicus arriving on his tent Spartacus spys a map of thrace amongst the pile on his table , as he traces his hand over it you can feel both his yearning for it and resignation that he will never see it again.

Also, a snippet of the Blood & Sand soundtrack plays right at that moment - the music we would associate with Thrace/Sura.


Elsewhere, thought it was a bit odd that Spartacus accepted Crassus' wrist handshake - as I thought that would be reserved only for his brother gladiators.