Hungary v Rep. of Ireland KO 7.30 - Setanta Ireland MOD POST #5

aindriu80 · 04-06-2012 8:51pm

nice to see no injuries, as Dunne just said most of the players really have the Croatia game on their minds and not this one. At least we have some options if Robbie and co cant come up with the goods.

I think we play the 4-4-2 system so often and so well that we just rely on the last ditch effort to just do enough.

Renn · 04-06-2012 8:52pm

eagle eye wrote: »

The invention of football manager was an awful thing I think. There are so many people on here who think they know more than one of the most successful managers in football over the last 30 years.

And if those people just stopped and thought for a minute, there is no way they would do well with Andrews, Whelan and Gibson as your choices for central midfield in football manager but Trap somehow got them to the Euros. And he did if for real!!!:D

I know, it's awful! You even have people thinking Chelsea played catenaccio this season!

Liam O · 04-06-2012 8:52pm

Some good performances in the 2nd half, Walters looked good and McGeady threatened. Gibbo played a few good passes when he came on too.

BorneTobyWilde · 04-06-2012 8:52pm

tigger123 wrote: »

900+ minutes of luck?

900 +
Minutes Of Luck

rated pg

In a town near you soon,

Paully D · 04-06-2012 8:52pm

Job done. Really can't wait for Sunday :cool:

kev9100 · 04-06-2012 8:53pm

Francie Barrett wrote: »

Only need to draw all our group matches 0-0 and we might have a chance of going through :pac:

I have to ask, do you take a perverse type of pleasure in being repetitive, boring and miserable?

carbon nanotube · 04-06-2012 8:55pm

2 things will happen

1/ Ireland will have the usual snoooze fest in all the games.

2/ get trounced

sorry i cant be more enthusiastic but watching kylie minogue took my attention tonight than the game, can imagine the same next week.

tigger123 · 04-06-2012 8:55pm

Renn wrote: »

I know, it's awful! You even have people thinking Chelsea played catenaccio this season!

I think what Chelsea played in the semi final and final is pretty much the finest example all season ...

It's even on the wiki page ... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Catenaccio

"Furthermore, in the 2011-12 UEFA Champions League, Chelsea's unlikely win of the trophy was largely based upon defensive discipline. The view that Catenaccio tactics were being used following the appointment of Intermin Manager Roberto Di Matteo became prevalent during the Semi-Final against Barcelona. The Catalan's enjoyed 70% of Possession at Stamford Bridge and and enjoyed an icredible 73% in the second leg, yet Chelsea progressed 3-2 on aggregate."

Copper_pipe · 04-06-2012 8:55pm

Just back from training, did any Irish players get injured?

klose · 04-06-2012 8:56pm

Mcgeady did great has to be said, I've no beef with him being ahead of mcclean. However if hunt is used ahead of mcclean on the bench I will be dissapoint..

grohlisagod · 04-06-2012 8:56pm

Copper_pipe wrote: »

Just back from training, did any Irish players get injured?

No by the looks of it. The biggest positive we can take from the game.

BorneTobyWilde · 04-06-2012 8:57pm

Copper_pipe wrote: »

Just back from training, did any Irish players get injured?

They all look disabled
But they can't park in the handicap zone

kitakyushu · 04-06-2012 8:58pm

tigger123 wrote: »

I think what Chelsea played in the semi final and final is pretty much the finest example all season ...

It's on the wiki page ... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Catenaccio

"Furthermore, in the 2011-12 UEFA Champions League, Chelsea's unlikely win of the trophy was largely based upon defensive discipline. The view that Catenaccio tactics were being used following the appointment of Intermin Manager Roberto Di Matteo became prevalent during the Semi-Final against Barcelona. The Catalan's enjoyed 70% of Possession at Stamford Bridge and and enjoyed an icredible 73% in the second leg, yet Chelsea progressed 3-2 on aggregate."

From skimming it that article seems to have just lumped any team that won playing overly defensive football into "catenaccio"

TimeToShine · 04-06-2012 9:00pm

whippedcream wrote: »

Mcgeady did great has to be said, I've no beef with him being ahead of mcclean. However if hunt is used ahead of mcclean on the bench I will be dissapoint..

In fairness to hunt he can put a great ball in from any angle but his awareness is very lacking.

In spite of all the optimists in this thread i'm sadly inclined to agree with the naysayers. Judging by that performance against Hungary, who can be classed as an almost mild Croatia, we'd be extremely lucky to sneak a draw against them and then god knows what'll happen against Italy. Parking the bus can only work for so long against top teams, all it takes is one good shot and we're done.

briany · 04-06-2012 9:00pm

Oh god. My stream is after changing over to Rolf Harris and Lenny Henry singing 'Two Little Boys'. The unimpressed look on Liz's face is hilarious.

Setanta doing their usual 2nd rate coverage. Don't like what's his name cutting across Brian Kerr to make his point.

kfallon · 04-06-2012 9:00pm

It was a friendly, the players got 90 mins out of it, the result was never gonna matter (unless we had a hugely embarassing result a la Italy last Friday). Be a completely different kettle of fish on Sunday.

Just in town today and seeing little stalls on Henry St selling flags, hats etc for the Euros and most shops pushing any Irish merchandise really got me buzzing inside. Can't wait for Sunday

Jimmy Iovine · 04-06-2012 9:01pm

carbon nanotube wrote: »

2 things will happen

1/ Ireland will have the usual snoooze fest in all the games.

2/ get trounced

sorry i cant be more enthusiastic but watching kylie minogue took my attention tonight than the game, can imagine the same next week.

BorneTobyWilde wrote: »

They all look disabled
But they can't park in the handicap zone

MoscowFlyer wrote: »

lol @ people be proud of a clean sheet. I mean Im all for being a half glass full kinda guy but please open your eyes just a little bit.

I'm looking forward to the match threads during the championships. Thank god I'm not a mod for them anyway.

dublincelt · 04-06-2012 9:01pm

kincsem wrote: »

The manager will have a few ideas of his starting eleven after that. I expect changes.

Jesus Christ, have you forgotten who the manager is???!

Renn · 04-06-2012 9:04pm

tigger123 wrote: »

I think what Chelsea played in the semi final and final is pretty much the finest example all season ...

It's even on the wiki page ... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Catenaccio

"Furthermore, in the 2011-12 UEFA Champions League, Chelsea's unlikely win of the trophy was largely based upon defensive discipline. The view that Catenaccio tactics were being used following the appointment of Intermin Manager Roberto Di Matteo became prevalent during the Semi-Final against Barcelona. The Catalan's enjoyed 70% of Possession at Stamford Bridge and and enjoyed an icredible 73% in the second leg, yet Chelsea progressed 3-2 on aggregate."

It's on the wiki page, and? It may be a defensive display but a strong focus towards defending does not automatically mean it's catenaccio.

kitakyushu · 04-06-2012 9:04pm

471  23.05.2011 Dublin		Northern Ireland   5-0
472  29.05.2011 Dublin		Scotland	   1-0
473  04.06.2011 Skopje          Macedonia          2-0
474  07.06.2011 Liege		Italy              2-0
475  10.08.2011 Dublin		Croatia            0-0         
476  02.09.2011 Dublin          Slovakia           0-0
477  06.09.2011 Moscow          Russia             0-0
478  07.10.2011 Andorra		Andorra	       	   2-0
479  11.10.2011 Dublin		Armenia		   2-1
480  11.11.2011 Tallinn		Estonia		   4-0
481  15.11.2011 Dublin		Estonia            1-1
482  29.02.2012 Dublin		Czech Republic	   1-1
483  26.05.2012 Dublin		Bosnia-Herzegovina 1-0
484  04.06.2012 Budapest	Hungary            0-0

More zero's than bowl of cheerios.

Hank Scorpio · 04-06-2012 9:05pm

BorneTobyWilde wrote: »

They all look disabled
But they can't park in the handicap zone

Hilarious CorkMan

MoscowFlyer · 04-06-2012 9:06pm

Jimmy Iovine wrote: »

I'm looking forward to the match threads during the championships. Thank god I'm not a mod for them anyway.

Yes, you are really contributing.

PhlegmyMoses · 04-06-2012 9:07pm

BorneTobyWilde wrote: »

They all look disabled
But they can't park in the handicap zone

I am genuinely struggling to understand the relevance any of your posts in this thread.

mark renton · 04-06-2012 9:09pm

Why is Davina McCall whispering in Trap's ear?

kitakyushu · 04-06-2012 9:10pm

john47832 wrote: »

Why is Davina McCall whispering in Trap's ear?

Manuela is the power behind the throne.

adamski8 · 04-06-2012 9:11pm

Sure that croatian team are completely useless, they drew last year against that crap ireland team that were playing tonight.

kitakyushu · 04-06-2012 9:13pm

That's the 5000th time I've seen that ad now. I wonder how Pats date with Stephanie went?

aindriu80 · 04-06-2012 9:19pm

we didn't lose at home against the Croatian team so its a good set of results so far. Croatia are going for the win of course but our upset is possible

PhlegmyMoses · 04-06-2012 9:25pm

kitakyushu wrote: »

That's the 5000th time I've seen that ad now. I wonder how Pats date with Stephanie went?

He got a **** and fish fingers on the Nitelink home.

Francie Barrett · 04-06-2012 9:28pm

kev9100 wrote: »

I have to ask, do you take a perverse type of pleasure in being repetitive, boring and miserable?

It kills me to see us playing the way we do.

RGDATA! · 04-06-2012 9:30pm

Francie Barrett wrote: »

It kills me to see us playing the way we do.

why bother then? you could probably do something better with your time?

kitakyushu · 04-06-2012 9:32pm

PhlegmyMoses wrote: »

He got a **** and fish fingers on the Nitelink home.

I heard Wardy was her date for whatever the first suggested night was. Left her looking like a painters radio for Pat.

Diabhal Beag · 04-06-2012 9:41pm

Ward's encouraging expression is still the worst acting I've ever seen and I say that as a featured extra in a TG4 boxing drama.

Felexicon · 04-06-2012 9:43pm

Jesus Christ what the f&@k is wrong with people on this thread. What exactly were you expecting from this game. Hungary have nothing to play for and the Irish lads clearly didn't want to get injured. That's why these games are classed as warm ups.
Also all the idiots posting pointless crap about how we'll get destroyed on Sunday can go jump in the Liffey for all I care,
We're in a major tournament for the first time in 10 years and it's all " 0-0 with Hungary. Should probably just fly home to Dublin to save us embarrassing ourselves".
F"@k off with that sh!t.
I can't wait for the euros
I can't wait to cheer on my country
I can't wait to see all the begrudgers rush to buy inflatable hammers and jerseys

COYBG

MoscowFlyer · 04-06-2012 9:55pm

We want to get rid of the mentality of the whole "We are in a major championship for the 1st time in 10 years, lets just enjoy it" It's embarrassing hearing that over and over again.

carbon nanotube · 04-06-2012 9:55pm

Jimmy Iovine wrote: »

I'm looking forward to the match threads during the championships. Thank god I'm not a mod for them anyway.

Its the worst Irish team I have ever seen.

and i have seen a few of them.

daddydick · 04-06-2012 9:58pm

carbon nanotube wrote: »

Its the worst Irish team I have ever seen.

and i have seen a few of them.

Well that is a complete lie.

It's the best Irish team of the last 10 years. Unbeaten in 14 games, 16 away from home with 6 away clean sheets in a row.

You are a troll, grow up.

kitakyushu · 04-06-2012 9:58pm

carbon nanotube wrote: »

Its the worst Irish team I have ever seen.

and i have seen a few of them.

Was your tv broken for the 5-2 against Cyprus?

Soups123 · 04-06-2012 9:59pm

carbon nanotube wrote: »

Jimmy Iovine wrote: »

I'm looking forward to the match threads during the championships. Thank god I'm not a mod for them anyway.

Its the worst Irish team I have ever seen.

and i have seen a few of them.

How the **** you can see that is beyond me, only the 4th Irish team to qualify for a major tournament yet there the worst you've seen!

MoscowFlyer · 04-06-2012 10:00pm

carbon nanotube wrote: »

Its the worst Irish team I have ever seen.

and i have seen a few of them.

Jesus, let's not take accolade away from Stan!

Felexicon · 04-06-2012 10:00pm

MoscowFlyer wrote: »

We want to get rid of the mentality of the whole "We are in a major championship for the 1st time in 10 years, lets just enjoy it" It's embarrassing hearing that over and over again.

Oh sorry but did I say let's just enjoy it. No I did not. And you're sick of hearing something over and over again once every 10 years. You seem like a well centred human

Reganovski · 04-06-2012 10:01pm

carbon nanotube wrote: »

Its the worst Irish team I have ever seen.

and i have seen a few of them.

Yawn yawn

Felexicon wrote: »

Jesus Christ what the f&@k is wrong with people on this thread. What exactly were you expecting from this game. Hungary have nothing to play for and the Irish lads clearly didn't want to get injured. That's why these games are classed as warm ups.
Also all the idiots posting pointless crap about how we'll get destroyed on Sunday can go jump in the Liffey for all I care,
We're in a major tournament for the first time in 10 years and it's all " 0-0 with Hungary. Should probably just fly home to Dublin to save us embarrassing ourselves".
F"@k off with that sh!t.
I can't wait for the euros
I can't wait to cheer on my country
I can't wait to see all the begrudgers rush to buy inflatable hammers and jerseys

COYBG

What he said!!

Come on Ireland

Soups123 · 04-06-2012 10:02pm

MoscowFlyer wrote: »

We want to get rid of the mentality of the whole "We are in a major championship for the 1st time in 10 years, lets just enjoy it" It's embarrassing hearing that over and over again.

It's embarrassing to be enjoying our involvement in a major tournament before a ball has even been kicked, rite......

MoscowFlyer · 04-06-2012 10:03pm

Felexicon wrote: »

Oh sorry but did I say let's just enjoy it. No I did not. And you're sick of hearing something over and over again once every 10 years. You seem like a well centred human

I was paraphrasing every one else.

As for your second point, what?

MoscowFlyer · 04-06-2012 10:05pm

Soups123 wrote: »

It's embarrassing to be enjoying our involvement in a major tournament before a ball has even been kicked, rite......

It's embarrassing that people seem to be settling for just being there rather than actually believing we can do something. We are going there to win the tournament, however long a shot that might be, that is our goal, same as everyone else.

Soups123 · 04-06-2012 10:14pm

MoscowFlyer wrote: »

Soups123 wrote: »

It's embarrassing to be enjoying our involvement in a major tournament before a ball has even been kicked, rite......

It's embarrassing that people seem to be settling for just being there rather than actually believing we can do something. We are going there to win the tournament, however long a shot that might be, that is our goal, same as everyone else.

It's being a realist we are 4th favorites in a group of 4, realistically we shouldn't get out of the group, I'm going to enjoy it no matter what 3 nights out and if something more happens great.

tigger123 · 04-06-2012 10:14pm

MoscowFlyer wrote: »

It's embarrassing that people seem to be settling for just being there rather than actually believing we can do something. We are going there to win the tournament, however long a shot that might be, that is our goal, same as everyone else.

And who here was saying that we wouldn't be going with the aim of winning the tournament? Nobody has been making the case that we should be just making up the numbers.

The argument on this thread has been between fans who are criticizing the team before they've even kicked a ball in the finals, and those fans who actually want to support the team, instead of just b*tching and moaning about them.

Felexicon · 04-06-2012 10:16pm

MoscowFlyer wrote: »

It's embarrassing that people seem to be settling for just being there rather than actually believing we can do something. We are going there to win the tournament, however long a shot that might be, that is our goal, same as everyone else.

Nobody here has said that.

Is it an achievement to qualify? Yes
Did I celebrate when we did? Yes
Can we win it? Yes
Will we? Who knows
Will I still be proud to support Irish football if we lose 3 games? Yes

Take of you're Eammon Dunphy , sour puss, overly negative hat for a minute and be thankful that for the first time in 10 years we have a reason to look forward to a major international tournament.

noodler · 04-06-2012 10:22pm

I have spent 2 years or so pointing out the limitations and fears about Trap's setup but it seems rather pointless to start waxing lyrical about the setup at this stage.

Nothing is going to change at the tournament unless we are looking for an equaliser.

TBH, it was the lack of innovation and passing against Bulgaria, Slovakia., Cyprus etc that I had issues with. I'm not sure we were ever going to try anything other than be "resolute" against the teams we are up against Cro/Ita/Spa no matter the manager.

steelcityblues · 04-06-2012 10:31pm

Felexicon wrote: »

Nobody here has said that.

Is it an achievement to qualify? Yes
Did I celebrate when we did? Yes
Can we win it? Yes
Will we? Who knows
Will I still be proud to support Irish football if we lose 3 games? Yes

Take of you're Eammon Dunphy , sour puss, overly negative hat for a minute and be thankful that for the first time in 10 years we have a reason to look forward to a major international tournament.

Dunphy (rightly) criticised our performance against Egypt 22 years ago, and got vilified in the process by a lot of people who never even kicked a ball in their lives, unlike him. Sure, he is full of it at times, but he was right on that occasion.

By all means they deserve a fair bit of praise, but there seems to be people here - and in 'real life' - who are not wise enough to spot fair criticism.

Hungary v Rep. of Ireland KO 7.30 - Setanta Ireland MOD POST #5

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