Do you agree with "A rose by any other name would smell as sweet"

Stiffler2

I disagree just like in the Simpsons

Ladies - would you like a bouquet of roses if they were called stinkbuds or crapweeds

would you like a box of chocs if they were called skuz drops

and a bottle of wine that was called cat piss


so basically it's say valentines and your partner has just gotten you :

a bouquet of stinkbuds
a box of skuz drops
a bottle of cat piss


Do you agree with the above saying : "A rose by any other name would smell as sweet"

I don't, ok - the smell would stay the same but who would want a bouquet of stink buds.

Do Discuss

Sir Digby Chicken Caesar

so you admit it would smell as good, you just wouldn't like them

that says more about you than it does about roses

efb

The smell remains the same- only the perception has changed

Doc

efb wrote: »

The smell remains the same- only the perception has changed

If you perceive something to not smell as good as something else then it doesn't to you.

Mr Benevolent

What the...?

chin_grin

...not if they were called 'crap blossoms'.

Also, do your own damn homework/studying.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/A_rose_by_any_other_name_would_smell_as_sweet

Stiffler2

efb wrote: »

The smell remains the same- only the perception has changed

are you saying the name of something & the smell it gives off are inter-twined at the molecular level ?

FatherLen

well what if it was to go the other way?

would you appreciate a steaming pile of shit more if it was called honey-flowers?

Duggys Housemate

Stiffler2 wrote: »

are you saying the name of something & the smell it gives off are inter-twined at the molecular level ?

He is saying that the human perception of something is affected by the name.

flutterflye

Well I don't really like the smell of roses that much.
So I'm going to use chocolate - because I loves chocolate.
If chocolate were to be called big smelly vagina, I wouldn't give a hootananny.
I would still love it's taste, it's aroma, it's essence.
Mmm... big smelly vagina.

Stiffler2

flutterflye wrote: »

Well I don't really like the smell of roses that much.
So I'm going to use chocolate - because I loves chocolate.
If chocolate were to be called big smelly vagina, I wouldn't give a hootananny.
I would still love it's taste, it's aroma, it's essence.
Mmm... big smelly vagina.

Well to be fair I would also dive into a box of vagina.
What if the box of chocolates were called penis cheese instead ??

I'd dive into a box of vagina but don't like the ring of the penis cheese myself...

CardBordWindow

I know a girl called Rose who's personal hygiene is questionable.

Doc

Well to clear all this up a bit smell, more so than any other sense, is linked to the parts of the brain that process emotion and associative learning. The olfactory bulb in the brain, which sorts sensation into perception, is part of the limbic system a system that includes the amygdala and hippocampus, structures vital to our behavior, mood and memory. A smell can bring on a flood of memories, influence people's moods and even affect their work performance. Because the olfactory bulb is part of the brain's limbic system, an area so closely associated with memory and feeling it's sometimes called the "emotional brain," smell can call up memories and powerful responses almost instantaneously.
The olfactory bulb has intimate access to the amygdala, which processes emotion, and the hippocampus, which is responsible for associative learning. Despite the tight wiring, however, smells would not trigger memories if it weren't for conditioned responses. When you first smell a new scent, you link it to an event, a person, a thing or even a moment. Your brain forges a link between the smell and a memory -- associating the smell of chlorine with summers at the pool or lilies with a funeral. When you encounter the smell again, the link is already there, ready to elicit a memory or a mood. Chlorine might call up a specific pool-related memory or simply make you feel content. Lilies might agitate you without your knowing why. This is part of the reason why not everyone likes the same smells. Therefor if roses were called crap blossoms people may not think they smell nice and so the actual smell would appear bad to them.
Researchers have found that cognition significantly influences the perception of smell. A psychologist at the University of Oxford labeled an ambiguous Brie-like scent as either "cheddar cheese" or "body odor." Test subjects rated the odor higher when it was labeled cheddar cheese. MRIs even showed more activity in the olfactory region of the brain when subjects believed they were smelling cheeseResearchers have found that cognition significantly influences the perception of smell. A psychologist at the University of Oxford labeled an ambiguous Brie-like scent as either "cheddar cheese" or "body odor." Test subjects rated the odor higher when it was labeled cheddar cheese. MRIs even showed more activity in the olfactory region of the brain when subjects believed they were smelling cheese.
It is not then a huge leap to say that two plants one labled rose and another labled crap blossoms might provide similar results.

TLDR: Shakespeare was a hack who should have done more research on the matter.

flutterflye

Stiffler2 wrote: »

Well to be fair I would also dive into a box of vagina.
What if the box of chocolates were called penis cheese instead ??

I'd dive into a box of vagina but don't like the ring of the penis cheese myself...

Well it can be smelly knob smeg for you.
Because to me personally, a big smelly hairy vagina is just gross.

Ms.M

:eek:
Penises and vaginas after only a few posts.
Where can ye go from here?

Capt'n Midnight

CardBordWindow wrote: »

I know a girl called Rose who's personal hygiene is questionable.

have you tried calling her names ?

NiallFH

I dont like the smell of Roses....

Jester252

Rose is just a random set of letter which we assign meaning too. The world would not be different if rose and poo where switched

kerry4sam

Stiffler2 wrote: »

I disagree just like in the Simpsons

Ladies - would you like a bouquet of roses if they were called stinkbuds or crapweeds

would you like a box of chocs if they were called skuz drops

and a bottle of wine that was called cat piss


so basically it's say valentines and your partner has just gotten you :

a bouquet of stinkbuds
a box of skuz drops
a bottle of cat piss


Do you agree with the above saying : "A rose by any other name would smell as sweet"

I don't, ok - the smell would stay the same but who would want a bouquet of stink buds.

Do Discuss

Now tbh when I am given flowers and/or chocolates I am not given them and told "Here is a bunch of what I am informed are roses and/or *MilkTray".

Instead they would be handed to me with a nervous yet cheeky 'look-I-doing something out of my comfort zone here' kinda look! The flowers and chocolates are self-explained in their being and appreciated by me as such

Would I treat the person any different if I was given the above but they are referred to by another name by where-ever they were purchased? No I would not. They are what they are, and the fact that someone went out of their comfort-zone to give them to me is what I remember most, over the name of flower and/or brand of chocolates.