**Higher Level English Paper 2 2012 - Before/After

zinfandel

spurious wrote: »

The 'OMG that was so easy I was finished in an hour' gang should be out soon.

LOL love that!!:D

SDTimeout

I really like how people get so invested in the poets when it's only worth 50 marks. Last year I just learned five so I knew nothing bad could happen in the exam.

Just me though, I guess some people love to take the risk!

paddyzk

SDTimeout wrote: »

I really like how people get so invested in the poets when it's only worth 50 marks. Last year I just learned five so I knew nothing bad could happen in the exam.

Just me though, I guess some people love to take the risk!

I never understand that crack either.Why not learn the notes as you get them ? :pac:

jumpguy

SDTimeout wrote: »

I really like how people get so invested in the poets when it's only worth 50 marks. Last year I just learned five so I knew nothing bad could happen in the exam.

It is possibly the most over-emphasised aspect of any exam I know of in the LC. If you're happy with a low B or C, the poetry isn't a major deal. Doing good in it will obviously help, but it's nothing major if you make a hash of it and get like 20/50. The most important part is that essay on paper 1.

ShatterResistant

Higher Level: Larkin and Rich
Ordinary Level: Kavanagh and Heaney

BOOM. Just in case anyone is wondering I didn't spell Plath wrong.

P.S. I'm not a student I'm an attendant, I heard it on the grapevine.

kevin12345

hooli07 wrote: »

Higher Level: Larkin and Rich
Ordinary Level: Kavanagh and Heaney

BOOM. Just in case anyone is wondering I didn't spell Plath wrong.

P.S. I'm not a student I'm an attendant, I heard it on the grapevine.

:O
Plath for 2013

ShatterResistant

Oh and for higher level the drama was madness and why he was corrupt I think.

ChristinaIndigo

Our Hamlet questions for 2011 were cruel, so I was expecting the poetry to be the killer this year... Waiting for word from the boyfriend on whether Plath or Heaney came up or not... Hopefully one of them did..

EDIT: Apparently neither did according to twitter... well....

maireadng

hooli07 wrote: »

Higher Level: Larkin and Rich
Ordinary Level: Kavanagh and Heaney

BOOM. Just in case anyone is wondering I didn't spell Plath wrong.

P.S. I'm not a student I'm an attendant, I heard it on the grapevine.

Nooooooo! Plath did not appear on the paper? I was helping someone out and advised them to do Plath. Raging! Did Heaney appear for higher level too?

maireadng

ChristinaIndigo wrote: »

Our Hamlet questions for 2011 were cruel, so I was expecting the poetry to be the killer this year... Waiting for word from the boyfriend on whether Plath or Heaney came up or not... Hopefully one of them did..

Same here...

QueenOfLeon

hooli07 wrote: »

Higher Level: Larkin and Rich
Ordinary Level: Kavanagh and Heaney

BOOM. Just in case anyone is wondering I didn't spell Plath wrong.

Well you're still missing the 2 other poets that will have come up :P

polka dot

Apparently it's Rich, Kavanagh, Kinsella and Larkin for HL.

ChristinaIndigo

polka dot wrote: »

Apparently it's Rich, Kavanagh, Kinsella and Larkin for HL.

oh jesus...

DepoProvera

Was secretly hoping Plath wouldn't come up to catch all the chancers out.

OL was fine. Not that anyone cares but Kinsella came up.

errlloyd

Any news on Hamlet, I think my sister only had Plath and Heaney done well

kkumk

errlloyd wrote: »

Any news on Hamlet, I think my sister only had Plath and Heaney done well

Same. I'm dreading her return she'll be in terrible humour......

SDTimeout

What's the best station to listen to for this post poetry outrage, in the mood for a laugh.

linguist

Well here's the thing. Public concern over 'dumbing down'. The Minister for Education expressing concern that exams have become too predictable. The SEC is not there to give presents. People need to realise that from now on the rules have changed. The signs have been there for a good while.

Above all, remember that if it was hard for you it was equally hard for others. Trust in the marking scheme now. They will get the same distribution of grades as every other year.

mockgenius

Just out from HL English. I had Plath, Heaney and Larkin done so was grand but I've never seen something funnier than the looks on people's faces when they opened the papers

ChristinaIndigo

DepoProvera wrote: »

Was secretly hoping Plath wouldn't come up to catch all the chancers out.

OL was fine. Not that anyone cares but Kinsella came up.

In HL, the 'chancers' are actually just people trying to get a grip as best they can on as much as they can. It's virtually impossible to have all of the poets covered in depth... Teachers advise people to only know 3/4 in depth at higher level..

Nice username by the way :rolleyes:

SpirantSpem

ChristinaIndigo wrote: »

In HL, the 'chancers' are actually just people trying to get a grip as best they can on as much as they can. It's virtually impossible to have all of the poets covered in depth... Teachers advise people to only know 3/4 in depth at higher level..

The Leaving Cert is about the ability to cover everything in depth. Most people aiming for high points can't risk knowing just 3 poets, that's absurd that any teacher would ever say that. You have to know at least 5, it's not about predictions, it's about being able to answer questions on the day.

DepoProvera

Not really. Banking on predictions is a fool's pursuit. Most people I know had 4 or 5 so I guess this has benefited those who put in the work.

errlloyd

"Hamlets madness be it genuine or not adds to the fascination of the audience toward his character"

Seems grand.

irish_man

So it was Rich, Kavanagh, Kinsella and Larkin in the Poetry right?

Anyone know did Literary genre come up?

Leftyflip

Grand paper - nothing too bad about it at all!
However, on a scale of 1-Sylvia Plath, how f*cked were you when Plath didn't come up? :pac:

mockgenius

irish_man wrote: »

So it was Rich, Kavanagh, Kinsella and Larkin in the Poetry right?

Anyone know did Literary genre come up?

Yes it was literary genre and general vision and viewpoint

abaigealw

ChristinaIndigo wrote: »

In HL, the 'chancers' are actually just people trying to get a grip as best they can on as much as they can. It's virtually impossible to have all of the poets covered in depth... Teachers advise people to only know 3/4 in depth at higher level..

Nice username by the way :rolleyes:

I sat my leaving cert a good few years ago now, and we were made to study 6 poets in detail so that we would have a choice of two on the day. I teach English grinds myself and would never recommend studying less than five poets becasue you could end up with no poet on the day. Fair enough, every student will have have their favourites that they may know in more detail, but they should all know the basics for at least five. That is what the course entails. It is not fair but that is how the exam works. There are 8 poets and only 4 come up, you do not have to be a mathematician to figure out that you need to study 5 poets to make sure you are prepared.

SDTimeout

errlloyd wrote: »

"Hamlets madness be it genuine or not adds to the fascination of the audience toward his character"

Seems grand.

Seems last years hard paper 2 has been rectified.

errlloyd

DepoProvera wrote: »

Not really. Banking on predictions is a fool's pursuit. Most people I know had 4 or 5 so I guess this has benefited those who put in the work.

Everyone gambles, some people gambled on them coming up, some gambled on them not coming up. If they had come up presumably many of the "chancers" would have possibly don't better than you because they had more time to dedicate to it.

People all have the same amount of time, risky strategy and conservative strategy are both legit, fair play on getting conservative to work out for you.

ChristinaIndigo

SpirantSpem wrote: »

The Leaving Cert is about the ability to cover everything in depth. Most people aiming for high points can't risk knowing just 3 poets, that's absurd that any teacher would ever say that. You have to know at least 5, it's not about predictions, it's about being able to answer questions on the day.

Everyone studies at least five, but I'm talking completely in depth. At the end of the day - poetry is only one section. The LC is a memory test and very few people go in with everything fresh in their heads... 3/4 is what we were advised to know in depth because otherwise - something else suffers