greek mp punched rival on tv debate

littlesthobo

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2Hk2FqoZoOQ

Fast forward to 1.11. Another example of the basket case country it is.

Arciphel

What a guy! Punching an old Greek woman in the face. The fecking Greeks father! I hear they invented defaulting...

Cuddlesworth

Not sure if anybody noticed but she hit him first. As far as I'm concerned its fair game after that.

southcentralts

WOW seems like random madness until you see the bottom left corner and they are all at the same table, then the girl starts talking and the douche throws a glass of vodka in her face ( general assumption that he is drinking vodka heavily to do that and follow up by laying slaps on the other woman) pure piggery.

Procasinator

Cuddlesworth wrote: »

Not sure if anybody noticed but she hit him first. As far as I'm concerned its fair game after that.

She hit him with a couple A4 sheets she was holding after he threw his drink over the other woman who was talking. He then proceeded to swing at her with his fists. Not really one and the same.

Logical Fallacy

Cuddlesworth wrote: »

Not sure if anybody noticed but she hit him first. As far as I'm concerned its fair game after that.

lol, she swung some paper at him.

Immaculate Pasta

They invented gayness :cool:

Sir Digby Chicken Caesar

yeah and he punched her instead of shooting her, it's all relative

Chucken

littlesthobo wrote: »

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2Hk2FqoZoOQ

Fast forward to 1.11. Another example of the basket case country it is.

He threw water!!
...and Greece is a fantastic country by the way.

You see politicians arguing and tar the whole country with the "basket case" brush.

Edit; Ok watched it all.
Ah Im sure they watch clips of f*** you deputy from our crowd ,

littlesthobo

http://www.rte.ie/news/2012/0607/greek-mp-punches-female-rival-on-live-tv-debate.html
Link to RTE article. Unbelieveable that this guy got elected really

Procasinator

Chucken wrote: »

He threw water!!
...and Greece is a fantastic country by the way.

You see politicians arguing and tar the whole country with the "basket case" brush.

Watch a little bit further to see him swinging at the lady next to him.

Anyone

He is a member of Golden Dawn, a Nazi party that is rising in popularity over there, hopefully the vid gets shown all over Greece and the party suffers in the next election.


Also, hopefully the fúcker is charged with assault to go along with his robbery charge as pointed out on the RTE link.

rob180

Thugs will be thugs, no matter how they try to fool you. Golden Dawn?? more like a Golden Shower of Tossers

biko

Not the first not the last time there is fisticuffs between politicians.
Plenty of vids on youtube, I don't see why this one is so special.
http://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=politicians+fighting+on+tv

smellslikeshoes

She could have taken him.

Logical Fallacy

rob180 wrote: »

Thugs will be thugs, no matter how they try to fool you. Golden Dawn?? more like a Golden Shower of Tossers

Golden Dawn sounds like some kind of weird ****ing cult tbh.

squod

Need a bit more of this over here IMO. Lunatics and quaaaars running the country. :mad:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DtClhh1MUe4

Biggins

Procasinator wrote: »

She hit him with a couple A4 sheets she was holding after he threw his drink over the other woman who was talking. He then proceeded to swing at her with his fists. Not really one and the same.

Maybe he saw it as provocation/reason to retort - but he was wrong to do so in the method he did.

A court might see a clear case of assault.
I would have to agree.

Chucken

biko wrote: »

Not the first not the last time there is fisticuffs between politicians.
Plenty of vids on youtube, I don't see why this one is so special.
http://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=politicians+fighting+on+tv

Because it gives people a chance to call a whole country basket cases

Sure we're all mental too.....all of us!!!!

Biggins

If it was dealt with on Irish legal terms, it might be put like the following:

Anger or no, he was not right to throw anything.

He was swiped with paper by another woman (in disgust) AFTER he threw water - BUT - his reaction was by far excessive and too much in relation to the paper-swipe.
He hit the woman once - paused (time to think!)- and then hit her twice more.
Thats would be deemed in Irish legal terms as possible (too) far excessive force being used.

Chucken

Biggins wrote: »

If it was dealt with on Irish legal terms, it might be put like the following:

Anger or no, he was not right to throw anything.

He was swiped with paper by another woman (in disgust) AFTER he threw water - BUT - his reaction was by far excessive and too much in relation to the paper-swipe.
He hit the woman once - paused (time to think!)- and then hit her twice more.
Thats would be deemed in Irish legal terms as possible (too) far excessive force being used.

On a scale of 1 to 10, when hitting a politician, just how hard is too hard?
Just curious

Biggins

Chucken wrote: »

On a scale of 1 to 10, when hitting a politician, just how hard is too hard?
Just curious

Serious answer: Violence is still violence in any degree according to the law.

AH answer: Well if we were to slap a few of our own just to see if their is life in them, we would have to be heading towards the 10 mark of the scale!

biko

Green party giving out to Labour.
Ireland's claim to "politicians gone wild"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YD-xxoQwOo4

washman3

Arciphel wrote: »

What a guy! Punching an old Greek woman in the face. The fecking Greeks father! I hear they invented defaulting...

They also invented civilisation and democracy.
What did we invent?? apart from gombeenism and cronyism.??

celtictiger32

Anyone wrote: »

He is a member of Golden Dawn, a Nazi party that is rising in popularity over there, hopefully the vid gets shown all over Greece and the party suffers in the next election.


Also, hopefully the fúcker is charged with assault to go along with his robbery charge as pointed out on the RTE link.

how do you know this?

Biggins

celtictiger32 wrote: »

how do you know this?

https://www.google.ie/#hl=en&output=search&sclient=psy-ab&q=+Ilias+Kasidiaris+court+case&oq=+Ilias+Kasidiaris+court+case&aq=f&aqi=q-w1&aql=&gs_l=hp.3..33i21.1258.7399.0.7574.12.12.0.0.0.0.168.1341.4j8.12.0...0.0.lgGQx_Ns8VM&pbx=1&bav=on.2,or.r_gc.r_pw.r_cp.r_qf.,cf.osb&fp=39e2fb42d586bd4&biw=1440&bih=785

Chrysi Avgi (Golden Dawn) spokesman Ilias Kasidiaris is due to go on trial on Monday, when he will have to respond to accusations that he was an accomplice in the mugging of a student.

Kasidiaris has been charged with driving the car that carried five men who beat and stabbed a student outside the Athens University halls of residence in 2007 before stealing the victim’s identity card.

A witness gave police the license plate of the getaway car, which matched that of Kasidiaris’s vehicle.

The spokesman for the far-right party denies taking part in the attack and claims that he was at the Metropolitan Hospital at the time, where he was representing the pharmaceutical company he worked for.

The trial had been due to start on Wednesday but the judge did not have time to hear the case.

http://www.ekathimerini.com/4dcgi/_w_articles_wsite1_1_06/06/2012_445681

MisterEpicurus

celtictiger32 wrote: »

how do you know this?

It's written in the Bible

celtictiger32

Biggins wrote: »

https://www.google.ie/#hl=en&output=search&sclient=psy-ab&q=+Ilias+Kasidiaris+court+case&oq=+Ilias+Kasidiaris+court+case&aq=f&aqi=q-w1&aql=&gs_l=hp.3..33i21.1258.7399.0.7574.12.12.0.0.0.0.168.1341.4j8.12.0...0.0.lgGQx_Ns8VM&pbx=1&bav=on.2,or.r_gc.r_pw.r_cp.r_qf.,cf.osb&fp=39e2fb42d586bd4&biw=1440&bih=785




http://www.ekathimerini.com/4dcgi/_w_articles_wsite1_1_06/06/2012_445681

cheers, was just curious to see were aspersions being cast because of the whole far right thing.

Chucken

washman3 wrote: »

They also invented civilisation and democracy.
What did we invent?? apart from gombeenism and cronyism.??

The submarine :cool:
The Beaufort scale
Radiotherapy


Halloween
The rules of hurling :pac:

LittleBook

Logical Fallacy wrote: »

Golden Dawn sounds like some kind of weird ****ing cult tbh.

Hans: The following people are to be released from their captors!!! In Northern Ireland, the seven members of the New Provo Front. In Canada, the five imprisoned leaders of Liberte de Quebec. In Greece, the nine members of the Golden Dawn movement ...

Karl: WTF? "Golden Dawn"??

Hans: I read about them in boards.ie

rob180

LittleBook wrote: »

Hans: The following people are to be released from their captors!!! In Northern Ireland, the seven members of the New Provo Front. In Canada, the five imprisoned leaders of Liberte de Quebec. In Greece, the nine members of the Golden Dawn movement ...

Karl: WTF? "Golden Dawn"??

Hans: I read about them in boards.ie

Die Hard 4?

Pedant

Only cowards hit women.

books4sale

Chucken wrote: »

He threw water!!
...and Greece is a fantastic country by the way.

,

:D No, its not! Its corrupt backward sh*thole.

I remember not too long ago the greeks pointing the finger at showing us how it should be done :rolleyes:

F them! Let them have their golden shower now.

Chucken

books4sale wrote: »

:D No, its not! Its corrupt backward sh*thole.

I remember not too long ago the greeks pointing the finger at showing us how it should be done :rolleyes:

F them! Let them have their golden shower now.

You've lived there I presume?
Corrupt? its government may be,but it certainly is not a "backward Sh*thole.

Dolbert

What a f*cking scumbag.

Biggins

Biggins wrote: »

...He hit the woman once - paused (time to think!)- and then hit her twice more.
Thats would be deemed in Irish legal terms as possible (too) far excessive force being used.

Just going on what I mentioned above previously, he can't even claim self-defence I think.
He paused after he delivered the first slap - saw she was not retaliating or aggressive towards him - and then he started still again and delivered two more wallops.

I would would find it very hard to see him innocent of at least a charge of assault.

He's a nasty piece of work.

UPDATE:

AN ARREST WARRANT has been issued for the spokesman of Greece’s far-right Golden Dawn party after he appeared to throw punches at a rival – in the middle of a live televised TV debate.
...public prosecutor Eleni Raikou issued instructions for Kasidiaris’s arrest almost immediately after the show ended.

http://www.thejournal.ie/video-arrest-warrant-issued-after-fight-on-greek-election-tv-debate-477581-Jun2012/

Tym

It's interesting, while not special, because the current climate in Greek and the Eurozone and then you spice it with the far right hitting the (maybe far left?) socialist MP, and the overeaction of the MP throwing the punches, and the fact he hit a woman. And he seemed to be aiming towards her face, which is slightly disturbing.

Anyone

As an aside, would this Golden Dawn party be the only anti-german nazi party?

Ellis Dee

He is just typical of the thuggish far-right ultra-nationalist parties that have won seats in parliaments right across Europe from Athens to Helsinki and from Budapest to Oslo. :rolleyes:

Just imagine what they would do if they managed to hoodwink substantially larger numbers than the eejits who have allowed themselves to be swayed by their false promises, got real power and were able to put their xenophobic, Islamophobic, homophobic, anti-multicultural and find-a-convenient-scapegoat for everything "policies" into practice. :eek:

However, it is more usual for them to beat up some defenceless immigrant out of sight in a back alley than to hit a woman on TV. By doing that he has, hopefully, opened a few eyes and thereby done the world a service.:):)

stevenmu

On the one hand, this is disgraceful behaviour from a politician of all people.

On the other, I wouldn't mind seeing Michael Noonan kick the crap out of Mick Wallace.

Procasinator

Anyone wrote: »

As an aside, would this Golden Dawn party be the only anti-german nazi party?

I doubt it. It is not like modern day Germany is aligned with Nazi ideology.

meathstevie

Facist hits communist ? What's new....

Gunmonkey

stevenmu wrote: »

On the other, I wouldn't mind seeing Michael Noonan kick the crap out of Mick Wallace.

Have a line-up of members of the government vs the opposition, no holds barred, have it pay-per-view.

Would have all our economic problems and deficit solved in an evening.

ikeano29

This is a problem that will keep popping up in lots of EU countries over the next few years.

Countries like our own and greece don't fit into a one currency system, far right movements are on the rise all over Europe like the head cases neo nazi party in this video (the guy throwing water and hitting an old woman).

The longer all these bailouts go on, it is just prolonging the agony of something that is bound to fail in the euro one currency system but also you will see a trend of these far right movements gain power across Europe.

Pedant

If you had the opportunity to go back in time to assassinate Hitler before he came into power, would you be willing to do it? Maybe some Greeks will be saying that about the leaders of Golden Dawn in ten years time if they're elected.

brian plank

this was taken from the youtube comments and explains everything

One of them claimed that she would turn into magical beast if water was to touch her skin, and the other one claimed that she was a martial artist and could block anything he could throw at her.

KINGVictor

littlesthobo wrote: »

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2Hk2FqoZoOQ

Fast forward to 1.11. Another example of the basket case country it is.

Disgraceful behaviour by the Golden Dawn politician- Note: he is not an elected MP in the true sense of the word because the Greek parliament has been dissolved.

His behaviour represents the disturbing ideology and actions of the party he represents. Remember that journalists were forced to stand in reverence to the party leader during a press conference after they won seats in the parliament. I hope he is arrested and faces the law for his despicable conduct.

However, I disagree with your assertion of Greece been a basket case because of his conduct; I have seen worse behaviour in some highly industralised and prosperous countries- I will suggest you do a google/youtube search of fights in Japanese and South Korean parliaments.
It is becoming common to talk down to the Greeks these days as if it is one backward, failed country. On the contrary, they are very hardworking and ingenious people who have been repeatedly let down by the political elite, a situation not entirely confined to just Greece.

Instead of the vilification of the Geek nation, I think this was an isolated incidence carried out by a nutter that represents a dangerous political party and not representative of the average Greek citizen.

Logical Fallacy

141_Oscar_Mike wrote: »

How the fcuk does a Neo Nazi make it into politics these days?

Ask this ****.

Nodin

Logical Fallacy wrote: »

Ask this ****.

....though their votes collapsed now, so he may well be asking himself the same question.

Daniel S

Pedant wrote: »

Only cowards hit women.

If men and women are equal, why is it wrong to hit a woman and alright to hit a man?

To be fair, it's pretty stupid throwing paper at someone a lot bigger than you and clearly on edge. He was pissed off at the woman who claimed he was involved in an armed robbery in 2007, which he hasn't been proved innocent/guilty in yet so that's pretty unfair to bring that up. He was also wrong to be violent, but they're all pretty f*cking stupid.

Looking at it a few more times, the first one looks like a slap and the rest didn't even make contact with her face. She got off lucky to be honest, I wouldn't bet against that lad taking on everyone in the room.

delad

smellslikeshoes wrote: »

She could have taken him.

She would of had a punchers chance at best. While she has a big weight advantage and could probably soak up a good few punches, eventually his superior conditioning and hand speed would come through. If I was him I would just keep my distance and use my jab to pick her off. Then when she starts to get tired, I would grab her by the throat and chokeslam her through the table.