Euro 2012 Group A

BKC

Need the Russians to top the group. Hopefully they do their job against Greece so that it's in their own hands.

Jesus Wept

Go Alan, go!

Pudsy33

Looking forward to these game, hope poland can go through

mike65

BKC wrote: »

What's the story with the matches tomorrow? I assume RTE will be showing the Poland match? If so, will the Russia match be streamed on the website?

BBC1 and RTE2 have chosen the same game but BBC3 is showing Greece/Russia. As a heads up tomorrow ITV have both games ITV1 and ITV4

To Alcohol

Hope Poland make it through.

swoody

Charisteas

mike65 wrote: »

BBC1 and RTE2 have chosen the same game but BBC3 is showing Greece/Russia. As a heads up tomorrow ITV have both games ITV1 and ITV4

So Greece vs Russia wont be streamed on RTE player either?

_Bella_

kitakyushu wrote: »

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/UEFA_Euro_2012_Group_A

The wiki is talking about Greece having to get things like 6 goal wins against Russia if Czech draw , but I don't see where they're getting that notion from.

By my reckoning if Greece beat Russia 1-0 and Czech drew 0-0 with Poland then Russia (1st) and Greece (2nd) would go thru under the GD rules?


Russia 4pts +2
Greece 4pts 0
Czech Republic 4pt -2
Poland 3pts 0

I think if the Czech Republic and Poland draw and Greece win, Greece still go out because of their head to head with the Czechs?

Charisteas

kitakyushu wrote: »

By my reckoning if Greece beat Russia 1-0 and Czech drew 0-0 with Poland then Russia (1st) and Greece (2nd) would go thru under the GD rules?

Yes that is correct.

kitakyushu

^^ I think when I posted that I was under the impression Euros were still using GD ahead of H2H, which I hope (because I keep hearing both ways) is finally not the case.

Charisteas

_Bella_ wrote: »

I think if the Czech Republic and Poland draw and Greece win, Greece still go out because of their head to head with the Czechs?

No, if Greece win, they are through to knockout stages, doesn't matter what happens in other game.

Charisteas

kitakyushu wrote: »

^^ I think when I posted that I was under the impression Euros were still using GD ahead of H2H, which I hope (because I keep hearing both ways) is finally not the case.

Head-to-head is used if 2 teams finish on same points.

kitakyushu

Charisteas wrote: »

Head-to-head is used if 2 teams finish on same points.

Goal difference is used if 3 or 4 teams finish on same points.

I thought (say if three teams finish on 4pts) that they draw up a mini-league based on those three teams results vs each other and then judge that ranking based on pts , then h2h between the 3 and only then GD?

No? Oh whatever, I'll just watch the games and let the tables work themselves out.

Charisteas

kitakyushu wrote: »

I thought (say if three teams finish on 4pts) that they draw up a mini-league based on those three teams results vs each other and then judge that ranking based on pts , then h2h between the 3 and only then GD?

No? Oh whatever, I'll just watch the games and let the tables work themselves out.

Yeah just checked the UEFA website, your correct (again!). Also they say this -

• Russia will be through with a draw, and could even afford a defeat by fewer than six goals if the other game finishes level.
• Greece will be through with a win, and out with a draw or loss.
• Czech Republic will advance with a win. They could even afford to draw unless Greece beat Russia by five goals or fewer.
• Poland will be through with a win, and out with a draw or loss

kitakyushu

I think the simplest way of looking at it is :
1) the only way there can be a three-way tie is if Czech draw. Win or lose and it's not an issue.
2) any team that wins their game today is going to the QF's (with the only exception being a threeway tie resulting out of a Greece win / Czech draw).

Basically every team should almost be treating their game like a cup tie and go for the win.

swoody

russia and poland will win no need for permutations....

Charisteas

kitakyushu wrote: »

Basically every team should almost be treating their game like a cup tie and go for the win.

Yeah it should make for two exciting games where all teams are attacking.

I'm predicting a narrow win for Greece and a draw in Czech/Poland game, which would mean Russia win the group and Greece finish second.

steelcityblues

Charisteas wrote: »

Yeah it should make for two exciting games where all teams are attacking.

I'm predicting a narrow win for Greece and a draw in Czech/Poland game, which would mean Russia win the group and Greece finish second.

Are you actually Greek?

If so, best of luck tonight.

Mars Bar

How come both games are on at the same time this evening?

kitakyushu

Mars Bar wrote: »

How come both games are on at the same time this evening?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/West_Germany_1%E2%80%930_Austria_(1982_FIFA_World_Cup)

Pudsy33

Mars Bar wrote: »

How come both games are on at the same time this evening?

All last round games are. It would be unfair if one game was played early, as the two teams playing later would have an advantage in knowing for sure what result sees them through.

Nuri Sahin

Is the Dortmund Poland game on RTE tonight?

Felexicon

-Ade- wrote: »

Is the Dortmund Poland game on RTE tonight?

Yes

swoody

poland/czech is on bbc1 and greece/russia is on bbc3 also

Jax Teller

#POL XI v #CZE Tyton, Piszczek, Wasilewski, Perquis, Boenisch, Dudka, Polanski, Murawski, Obraniak, Blaszczykowski, Lewandowski” 

Chesney left out .


#CZE XI v #POL Cech, Gebre Selassie, Kadlec, Sivok, Limbersky, Plasil, Hubschman, Jiracek, Kolar, Pilar, Baros” 

Jax Teller

#GRE v #RUS Sifakis, Torosidis, Papastathopoulos, K. Papadopoulos, Tzavelas, Maniatis, Karagounis, Katsouranis, Salpingidis, Samaras, Gekas” 

#RUS v #GRE Malafeev, Anyukov, Ignashevich, A. Berezutski, Zhirkov, Denisov, Shirokov, Glushakov, Dzagoev, Arshavin, Kerzhakov” 

Jimmy Iovine

Coletrickle88 wrote: »

#POL XI v #CZE Tyton, Piszczek, Wasilewski, Perquis, Boenisch, Dudka, Polanski, Murawski, Obraniak, Blaszczykowski, Lewandowski” 

Chesney left out .

Ha I was joking with a friend about this after he got sent off in the first game. Didn't think it'd actually happen. He won't be too happy.

G.K.

Delighted for tyton.

Charisteas

Rosicky missing for Czech, big blow for them.

swoody

Jimmy Iovine wrote: »

Ha I was joking with a friend about this after he got sent off in the first game. Didn't think it'd actually happen. He won't be too happy.

tyton is the reason poland are still in with a chance...he deserves to keep his place!

IvySlayer

Jimmy Iovine wrote: »

Ha I was joking with a friend about this after he got sent off in the first game. Didn't think it'd actually happen. He won't be too happy.

A straight red is 3 match ban no?

G.K.

No.

Jax Teller

IvySlayer wrote: »

A straight red is 3 match ban no?

Professional foul - 1 game
Violent conduct -3 games

swoody

IvySlayer wrote: »

A straight red is 3 match ban no?

1 in euros but can be 3 if its serious

How Soon Is Now

Whats the reason for the next few days games all being played at 7:45 does anyone know??

MagicMarker

Which is the game to watch?

Jax Teller

angerfist2009 wrote: »

Whats the reason for the next few days games all being played at 7:45 does anyone know??

So they can't fix any anything .

keith16

MagicMarker wrote: »

Which is the game to watch?

I'd say Poland v Czech....MON POLAND!

Charisteas

MagicMarker wrote: »

Which is the game to watch?

Greece vs Russia of course!

Look for a simulcast, that should be entertaining.

born2bwild

RTE is streaming both simultaneously.

keith16

You would think that George Hamilton and co. could put a little bit of effort into pronouncing names like Wrocław, it's not that hard FFS.

Czech anthem, a reserved little number, nice.

keith16

Polish anthem, much more authority and confident on the ball....therefore, I am predicting a win for Poland.

Panthro

Some noise from the crowd.

Mr.Crinklewood

John Terry has just shagged Pilars Miss.

Lapin

Shocking scuffed kick there.

Nuri Sahin

Big chance already for the Czechs. Pillar could have controlled that possibly.

Professional Griefer

We love you Poland, we do!!

machiavellianme

mike65 wrote: »

BBC1 and RTE2 have chosen the same game but BBC3 is showing Greece/Russia. As a heads up tomorrow ITV have both games ITV1 and ITV4

BBC 1 hd has them both if you have the red button.

Panthro

Kerrs voice would go through you after a few sentences.

Jax Teller

He can't miss that