Euro 2012 Group C (Irelands Group)

kryogen

Kerr is insightful

91 minutes gone, the score 1-1

"I think this will end up a draw"

well thank you so much Brian

grenache

Bloody suicide from Buffon there, no need to come so far off his line when he had two defenders backing him up. Good thing Torres was the one in possession! Beautiful from Marchisio at the other end, deserved better. My heart wants Italy to win but a draw is the best result for Ireland.

frisbeeface

Iniesta has played really well

adox

Pure brilliance from Ineista.

swoody

where they the spanish royals

kryogen

No composure

Unusual from the Spanish

ctrl-alt-delete

Jesus, ITV going to town on Torres any chance they get, the Torres of old this the Torres of old that,

I think he has been quite good since he came on, what Spain were missing in the first half, although the Italian defense are spent at this stage.

Nuri Sahin

Soldado must have his head in his hands watching that numpty.

kryogen

Thank fcuk I covered the bet, happy with that.

El Inho

excellent result in terms of irelands chances

Jimmy Iovine

Cassano, De Rossi and Iniesta were the best players out there.

adox

Hugely enjoyable game and decent result for Ireland.

yomtea98

Great game,Torres could have won it but bottled it.A win tonight and we are top of the group

kryogen

-Ade- wrote: »

Soldado must have his head in his hands watching that numpty.

Soldado, Llorente....................Raul

Kone

Good result.

Very open game, it'll be interesting if Spain adopt this formation against Ireland!

klose

Brilliant stuff!

elefant

Torres is shíte.

Spain will regret not bringing Goldado.

Leiva

That'll do nicely !

Nuri Sahin

kryogen wrote: »

Soldado, Llorente....................Raul

As I said earlier, Toquero. I'd have more faith in him scoring which says it all.

xtal191

That was brilliant!

WIZE

Comon Ireland . Squeaky bum time

PeterTwo

I thought a Spain win would have aided us better, if we assume that they'll finish first regardless of today's draw. Italy with zero points would have been great.

leonidas83

kryogen wrote: »

Soldado, Llorente....................Raul

If those players were so good they would be starting, there's no point in everyone having a pop at Torres anytime he misses a chance, he's runs and positioning created a lot of opportunites for Spain when he came on. They looked a hell of a lot more threatening when he came on

frisbeeface

Great game to watch. Italy were much better than I expected, unfortunately for Ireland.

kryogen

PeterTwo wrote: »

I thought a Spain win would have aided us better, if we assume that they'll finish first regardless of today's draw. Italy with zero points would have been great.

But you can no longer assume that they will finish first regardless of todays result, puts more pressure on them, that can only be a good thing imo

You want your opponents to get as few points as possible.

G.K.

Who needs strikers! :pac:

Iniesta MotM for me.

Leiva

PeterTwo wrote: »

I thought a Spain win would have aided us better, if we assume that they'll finish first regardless of today's draw. Italy with zero points would have been great.

Nope the risk was that whoever won would potentially go into their last game against Croatia with not giving a flying .
You know how the last group games can go when both teams smell safety.

It's best we keep Croatia close and everything going to the last game, but if we can beat Croatia tonight then it's a massive boost.

Renn

Don't think a draw is great for Ireland tbh. Then again, I see them coming out of today's games (and all the games) with zero points.

kryogen

leonidas83 wrote: »

If those players were so good they would be starting, there's no point in everyone having a pop at Torres anytime he misses a chance, he's runs and positioning created a lot of opportunites for Spain when he came on. They looked a hell of a lot more threatening when he came on

Your logic is flawed, do I need to point out how?

Also

They looked more threatening mainly due to Navas more so, because he gave them a vertical threat, same as Torres.

The Italians tiring was a factor too

ctrl-alt-delete

G.K. wrote: »

Who needs strikers! :pac:

Iniesta MotM for me.

I hope Trap doesn't take too much from the no strikers thing :pac:

Kone

G.K. wrote: »

Who needs strikers! :pac:

Iniesta MotM for me.

He was immense! I fear for our midfield!

markie29

G.K. wrote: »

Who needs strikers! :pac:

Iniesta MotM for me.

Pirlo for me but Iniesta was very good too.

kryogen

Leiva wrote: »

Nope the risk was that whoever won would potentially go into their last game against Croatia with not giving a flying .
You know how the last group games can go when both teams smell safety.

It's best we keep Croatia close and everything going to the last game, but if we can beat Croatia tonight then it's a massive boost.

I agree, if, and it is a massive if, we can beat Croatia we have a good chance of getting out of this group

Why do they keep saying if Italy were beaten they would be out of it?

They could still have easily beaten Croatia and ourselves ffs

Francie Barrett

Kone wrote: »

G.K. wrote: »

Who needs strikers! :pac:

Iniesta MotM for me.

He was immense! I fear for our midfield!

Whelan and Andrews are going torn apart. I just hope the humiliation isn't too great.

leonidas83

kryogen wrote: »

Your logic is flawed, do I need to point out how?

Also

They looked more threatening mainly due to Navas more so, because he gave them a vertical threat, same as Torres.

The Italians tiring was a factor too

Your logic is flawed because one of the most decorated managers in the Spanish game disagrees with you, if Del Bosque thought any of those players were a better option, he would have gone with them, simple as that, ill trust his judgement over yours any day of the week

dfx-

G.K. wrote: »

Iniesta MotM for me.

By a very long distance, despite other players from both sides doing very well.

IamtheWalrus

Thank my post if the last shight you did was wateryer than normal cos you're nervous cos of the game.

kryogen

leonidas83 wrote: »

Your logic is flawed because one of the most decorated managers in the Spanish game disagrees with you, if Del Bosque thought any of those players were a better option, he would have gone with them, simple as that, ill trust his judgement over yours any day of the week

Thats nice.

However, I made no argument, I simply pointed out to you that saying that if any of those players were good enough/better they would have started/been playing, was wrong.

That is stupid.

Simple as that.

kingshankly

Ireland more positive than Spain 2 strikers-v- no strikers

IamtheWalrus

My mother just asked me who's playing! :eek:

Nuri Sahin

leonidas83 wrote: »

Your logic is flawed because one of the most decorated managers in the Spanish game disagrees with you, if Del Bosque thought any of those players were a better option, he would have gone with them, simple as that, ill trust his judgement over yours any day of the week

Is Del Bosque immune to criticism?

Oh and congrats to Torres for running around for a bit when Italian players were tiring.

JPA

Iniesta is imperious.

Nuri Sahin

IamtheWalrus wrote: »

My mother just asked me who's playing! :eek:

Tell her it's London Red vs Stone Cold Steve Austin in the NBA Playoff Finals.

flyswatter

Torres wasn't as bad as everyone is making out, provided an alright outlet at least.

d22ontour

Excellent performance by the Italians, probably should have won the game too.

kryogen

flyswatter wrote: »

Torres wasn't as bad as everyone is making out, provided an alright outlet at least.

But an outlet to what?

He was disgraceful in front of goal, he was brought on to get a goal, he had chances and failed misreably, he cannot go uncriticized for that.

flyswatter

kryogen wrote: »

But an outlet to what?

He was disgraceful in front of goal, he was brought on to get a goal, he had chances and failed misreably, he cannot go uncriticized for that.

He wasn't great obviously, but definitely not terrible by any means.

Renn

Torres had a ****ing stinker tbh

the_monkey

Renn wrote: »

Torres had a ****ing stinker tbh

not filling me with confidence for next season ... anyway Come on IReland !!

kryogen

flyswatter wrote: »

He wasn't great obviously, but definitely not terrible by any means.

He was terrible in front of goal, thats really what it comes down to for a striker, he always tends to contribute well in for the team, he gives his all, I dont ever crticise him for effort, but he was terrible in front of goal, fluffing each chance he had.

End of the day his job is to score goals, he was brought on to get a winner, he wasted a number of very good chances that it is quite likely the other strikers in the squad and Soldado who missed out would have buried.

In terms of pure goalscoring form, Torres does not touch the other Spanish strikers and can't be relied upon at the moment to take chances.