Ted Bundy with Christian interviewer "Pornography made me do it"

dpqt

Anybody ever watch these clips, Ted Bundy's final interview.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dYAxfdj5_hY

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V79ey-V1ykg

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pUh1AqwvWAI

Am I the only one disturbed that there are people within conservative Christianity that would buy into Ted Bundy's deception that pornography made him murder innocent women and children? For me this is a case of extreme religious propoganda trying to justify it's bizarre notions of what constitutes morality with one of the most evil killers in history. You would swear from listening to this interview that the millions of young men who watch pornography were in danger of becoming yet another serial killer, and the Christian (anti porn) host buys every word of it.

ManTheSam

I didn't watch the videos but did someone say porn!?

prinz

dpqt wrote: »

Am I the only one disturbed that there are people within conservative Christianity that would buy into Ted Bundy's deception that pornography made him murder innocent women and children?

Pornographic exposure over the life course and the severity of sexual offenses: Imitation and cathartic effects

Findings indicate that adolescent exposure was a significant predictor of the elevation of violence—it increased the extent of victim humiliation.

http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0047235211001103

Yes porn may have an affect on some people. Shocking as that sounds and all.

Doc Ruby

dpqt wrote: »

Am I the only one disturbed that there are people within conservative Christianity that would buy into Ted Bundy's deception that pornography made him murder innocent women and children?

I don't think they're making the case they think they're making though, since the inevitable outcome must be legalised prostitution.

some random drunk

It's widely accepted that Bundy was merely telling the guy in this interview what he wanted to hear.

However when I was at school our religion book had a section about the evils of pornography and how it led Ted Bundy to become a serial killer and how he'd even said it himself, so it must be true. :rolleyes:

Can't remember the name of the textbook off the top of my head.

gurramok

Yeh just like violent video games has produced millions of violent killers :rolleyes: Don't listen to the religious right, they are warped in their views and stuck in a time warp.

prinz

some random drunk wrote: »

Can't remember the name of the textbook off the top of my head.

........interesting.

the keen edge

I reckon he was wrongly convicted of all those heinous crimes.

To me Ted Bundy will never sound like the name of a crazed killer; Ted Bundy sounds more like a chain of circus theme fast food restaurants, where every meal is a happy meal.

Corkfeen

prinz wrote: »

http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0047235211001103

Yes porn may have an affect on some people. Shocking as that sounds and all.

http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2010/11/101130111326.htm
There's numerous studies that state the legalisation of pornography results in lower overall crime rates. I really wouldn't trust Ted Bundy's word on it.

Results from the Czech Republic showed, as seen everywhere else studied (Canada, Croatia, Denmark, Germany, Finland, Hong Kong, Shanghai, Sweden, USA), that rape and other sex crimes have not increased following the legalization and wide availability of pornography. In addition, the study found that the incidence of child sex abuse has fallen since 1989, when child pornography became readily accessible -- a phenomenon also seen in Denmark and Japan.

prinz

Corkfeen wrote: »

There's numerous studies that state the legalisation of pornography results in lower overall crime rates. I really wouldn't trust Ted Bundy's word on it.

Well done, but actually has nothing to do whatsoever with my post in that porn and the age when people are exposed the type of porn etc can affect some people negatively.

gurramok

the keen edge wrote: »

To me Ted Bundy will never sound like the name of a crazed killer; Ted Bundy sounds more like a chain of circus theme fast food restaurants, where every meal is a happy meal.

You're thinking of Al Bundy!

prinz

the keen edge wrote: »

To me Ted Bundy will never sound like the name of a crazed killer; Ted Bundy sounds more like a chain of circus theme fast food restaurants, where every meal is a happy meal.

Try John Wayne Gacy.

MagicMarker

prinz wrote: »

Yes porn may have an affect on some people. Shocking as that sounds and all.

It certainly has an effect on me!

Raaarr

Corkfeen

prinz wrote: »

Well done, but actually has nothing to do whatsoever with my post in that porn and the age when people are exposed the type of porn etc can affect some people negatively.

Apologies, misread your post.

the keen edge

prinz wrote: »

Try John Wayne Gacy.

HE wasn't the best party Clown; all his balloon animals looked just looked like erect cocks tbh.

Scioch

dpqt wrote: »

Am I the only one disturbed that there are people within conservative Christianity that would buy into Ted Bundy's deception that pornography made him murder innocent women and children? For me this is a case of extreme religious propoganda trying to justify it's bizarre notions of what constitutes morality with one of the most evil killers in history. You would swear from listening to this interview that the millions of young men who watch pornography were in danger of becoming yet another serial killer, and the Christian (anti porn) host buys every word of it.

I'm disturbed by the fact that people would dismiss this kinda of thing as nonsense because of who's saying it.

I dont give a crap about Bundy or religion and I'm quite fond of porn but the fact remains that it does alter a young kids perception in relation to these things. In Bundy's case he mentioned detective magazines as a type of porn. I assume he's talking about the usual crime mags with really quite sickening detail in relation to sexually motivated crimes.

If a young kid with the usual urges and confusion going through puberty took an interest in violent sexual stories (lets be honest anything with the word tit gets ya going at that age) then they will without a doubt have an impact on them.

I dont think its the sole reason Bundy did what he did but it definitely contributed, whether by first exposing him to this type of behaviour or by allowing him to explore it further than he should at a young age.

Porn isnt bad but exposing kids to sexual violence while they are still forming a self identity and becoming sexually active will have a negative impact on them. Not everyone will become obsessed with it though, and not all of those will become a Ted Bundy. But sexually motivated crimes are not just committed by the Bundy's.

Jester252

so people do weird things to climax

Gordon

dpqt wrote: »

"Pornography made me do it"

Where is that quote from?

On video 1 (@7:20) his quote is this: "I'm not blaming pornography. I'm not saying that it caused me to go out and do certain things."

tdv123

prinz wrote: »

http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0047235211001103

Yes porn may have an affect on some people. Shocking as that sounds and all.

Well if getting a boner from watching porn is illegal then lock me up.

syklops

I dont give a crap about Bundy or religion and I'm quite fond of porn but the fact remains that it does alter a young kids perception in relation to these things

I know some people whose perception in relation to these things were changed when a person in authroity to them took advantage of them. I can't imagine what that was like, but I do know porn was the gentlest thing I can think of to introduce me to the world of sexuality.

The_Joker

When asked why he drove a VW Beetle he replied "Hitler made me do it" :eek:

af_thefragile

Its not just porn that makes a person a serial killer but if a person is vulnerable towards becoming a serial killer, then porn could have an affect in shaping the person's psychology.
There no way violent porn can't have a detrimental effect on some level on the person who watches and enjoys/gets off to it...

There was a good BBC horizon documentary on what makes a serial killer:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u88lYs4FMTY

mickrock

He used to be a women's shoe salesman.

Maybe it was all that gazing up women's legs that put him in such a frenzy.

gurramok

mickrock wrote: »

He used to be a women's shoe salesman.

So did Al Bundy! Did you ever watch Married with Children, whats your point?

Scioch

syklops wrote: »

I know some people whose perception in relation to these things were changed when a person in authroity to them took advantage of them. I can't imagine what that was like, but I do know porn was the gentlest thing I can think of to introduce me to the world of sexuality.

I and many of my friends were introduced to it though TV, page 3, a the bit of hearsay that comes down from the older kids. Any personal stuff was done over the lingerie section of a magazine, biker magazine with the odd pair of tits or a soft porn mag picked up from somewhere.

A kid doesnt need to be (and shouldnt be) introduced to sexuality by watching a woman getting spit roasted or treated like a piece of meat. Its fine for an adult to watch it who knows and understand what it is. But it shouldnt be used to educate kids ffs.

You need to give it context so they can learn about it and how to deal with it. A movie showing some tits and ass with a bit of a steamy romp is one thing. Hardcore pornography isnt the gentlest way of introducing a kid to sexuality. And thats on the lower end of the scale. If you start talking about the really rough stuff then its going to do some real damage.

mickrock

gurramok wrote: »

So did Al Bundy! Did you ever watch Married with Children, whats your point?

Yes, I've seen that.

Al was one of his aliases. I never thought he'd turn out like he did.

Scioch

mickrock wrote: »

Yes, I've seen that.

Al was one of his aliases. I never thought he'd turn out like he did.

Was only a matter of time before he snapped. The poor man had a dogs life.