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Is it a bit common to have Irish flags

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,973 ✭✭✭SafeSurfer


    I always taught in primary school that the flag was 'green white and orange'

    Where is gold coming from?? it is clearly orange, not gold :rolleyes:

    You are absolutely right and I never really thought of it before. I would automatically say gold. Maybe a subliminal national dislike of the colour orange?

    Multo autem ad rem magis pertinet quallis tibi vide aris quam allis



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,147 ✭✭✭PizzamanIRL


    Common? Its called supporting your country.

    Society these days.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,109 ✭✭✭MaxSteele


    Do they indeed! How's that? Civic pride? I'm curious.

    I just find that an area like Clondalkin or Crumlin or areas on the northside etc, would have more 'colourful' characters and all round better atmosphere at a time like the euros IMO.

    I've always noticed a much kind of quieter, reserved kinda vibe on the southside.


  • Posts: 50,630 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    MaxSteele wrote: »
    I just find that an area like Clondalkin or Crumlin or areas on the northside etc, would have more 'colourful' characters and all round better atmosphere at a time like the euros IMO.

    I've always noticed a much kind of quieter, reserved kinda vibe on the southside.

    I'm drunk, so I may be missing the sarcasm, but you know that crumlin and clondalkin are on the southside...yes?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 463 ✭✭circos


    Common? What are you Mr. Blackrock? I'd say you prefer Leinster flags hmm?

    Whats wrong with supporting the best club rugby team in Europe?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,171 ✭✭✭af_thefragile


    I'm drunk, so I may be missing the sarcasm, but you know that crumlin and clondalkin are on the southside...yes?

    I guess by southside he meant the "posh" side... D4, Dalkey and the lot.

    Crumlin and Clondalkin don't qualify I guess...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 353 ✭✭yizorselves


    Yeah but they're not really Southside dorling. They're schwahh


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,973 ✭✭✭SafeSurfer


    Then again it cant be that common. The queen of England flies her flag even when there's no matches on and shes ever so posh.

    Multo autem ad rem magis pertinet quallis tibi vide aris quam allis



  • Closed Accounts Posts: 574 ✭✭✭bdoo


    mikemac1 wrote: »
    A lot of flags the wrong way around
    Green on the left people.


    If you did that in the USA and messed around with their flag the local sheriff would be around for a quiet word

    what if the wind changes direction? Green next to the flag pole more accurate?


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,109 ✭✭✭MaxSteele


    I'm drunk, so I may be missing the sarcasm, but you know that crumlin and clondalkin are on the southside...yes?

    Well yeah I'm from Clondalkin.

    When I say southside .. I mean the more well to do areas of Donnybrook/Rathfarnham and everything south.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 12,395 ✭✭✭✭mikemac1


    Fair point


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 574 ✭✭✭bdoo


    Ikky Poo2 wrote: »
    I dunno, but it is rather loserish to look at this in any negative kind of way. Go to another country and if they have their national flag up everywhere its looked as great, fair play to them having some kind of national pride. But do it here in Ireland and we have clowns trying to insult and look down their noses. Get a life

    Not one to go overboard on national pride, but I can assure you there's plenty of it about in Germany. Seems not to be doign any damage.

    (The bloody fireworks when that goal went in, on the other hand, nearly gave the cat a heartattack)

    between this and the poster painting the cat it seems that the euros are bad for cats!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,268 ✭✭✭BunShopVoyeur


    Jesus Christ, if that's what people are into then leave them to it. Some people cannot help themselves with the moaning.

    If you think that it's tacky and crap looking (fair enough) well just try, for one week, to remove the pole from your anus, go have a beer or two tomorrow...and maybe even crack a smile. You'll probably have a good time and nobody will have to stare at your sour faces during a week that should be about having fun and being patriotic.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 13,992 ✭✭✭✭gurramok


    Where is gold coming from?? it is clearly orange, not gold :rolleyes:

    Blame phookin Centra. I bought mine a few hours ago and yes they were gold instead of orange. Wtf? I have put them on the car though.

    And yes Santry(pronounced Santrey :D), has flags everywhere to ahem bridge that class divide.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,627 ✭✭✭Lawrence1895


    Ikky Poo2 wrote: »
    Not one to go overboard on national pride, but I can assure you there's plenty of it about in Germany. Seems not to be doign any damage.

    (The bloody fireworks when that goal went in, on the other hand, nearly gave the cat a heartattack)

    Most of it will be flares and stuff like that, so I heard from friends in Germany.

    Anyway, I have the Irish flag in one window, the German flag in the window next to it. My way to show, where I live and where I come from, and what I'm proud of :)


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 71,802 ✭✭✭✭Ted_YNWA


    whats wrong with supporting your country??

    there is an underlying view in this country that by displaying some patriotism by flying a flag, your are supporting the IRA ..


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 353 ✭✭yizorselves


    Ted_YNWA wrote: »
    whats wrong with supporting your country??

    there is an underlying view in this country that by displaying some patriotism by flying a flag, your are supporting the IRA ..

    views of stupid d1ckheads imo

    Off point, one time I saw this guy working at a mobile chipper wearing a Celtic jersey. On the back it had the number 32 and the name Sands. I was in awe of his republicanism I can tell ya :)

    Awe!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,917 ✭✭✭✭iguana


    I always taught in primary school that the flag was 'green white and orange'

    Where is gold coming from?? it is clearly orange, not gold :rolleyes:

    I heard that the 'green, white and gold' thing, which a lot of people do say, came about from people who didn't feel our flag should be a sign of peace with the unionists refusing to say orange.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 13,992 ✭✭✭✭gurramok


    iguana wrote: »
    I heard that the 'green, white and gold' thing, which a lot of people do say, came about from people who didn't feel our flag should be a sign of peace with the unionists refusing to say orange.

    You sure? I thought it was something of a Free state mentality that wanted nothing to do with NI, i maybe wrong though. Its strange alright, you'd think there would be laws about how manufacturers should design our flag!


  • Registered Users, Subscribers, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,632 ✭✭✭✭antodeco


    I grew up in Blackrock, but live in Ballyfermot. I've my bunting up and Irish flag up.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,917 ✭✭✭✭iguana


    I don't know, it's just something I heard. But there are quite a few republican type songs which refer to Green, White and Gold as the flag colours. I do remember some teachers (and brownie leaders) insisting we used yellow for our drawings of flags, as it was most like gold. When some kids said it should be orange they were told they were wrong, even when they knew about the meaning the flag they were told they were wrong. I'm not sure if that was just badly educated teachers or a bit of sectarianism.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,159 ✭✭✭✭phasers


    people should leave the flags up for the Olympics. Also other sporting events, of which there are many. I think.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 141 ✭✭Patrick Cleburne


    Good luck to Croatia. Nijedan Izručenje.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 13,992 ✭✭✭✭gurramok


    Good luck to Croatia. Nijedan Izručenje.

    Which flag do you support Paddy?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,145 ✭✭✭Katgurl


    Yes - hanging Irish flags is more common in working class areas than in middle class ones, as are ludicrously large tvs and garish Christmas decorations.

    Stating a fact does not mean people are looking down their noses.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,603 ✭✭✭Mal-Adjusted


    Very common. I only painted the cat green white and gold. She died.:(

    Did she die of embarrassment because you didn't know the colours of your own flag?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,679 ✭✭✭AllGunsBlazing


    I'm working class but haven't bothered putting up any flags or bunting. But that's mostly because I suspect we're going to get hammered and come home with zero points. And frankly I resent the interruption to the LOI season.

    I suppose if we make it to the quarters then I'll probably jump on the bandwagon for fear of being run out of town by a green jersey wearing, plastic hammer wielding mob.

    :D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,145 ✭✭✭Katgurl


    Very common. I only painted the cat green white and gold. She died.:(

    Did she die of embarrassment because you didn't know the colours of your own flag?

    what is this new debate about? The flag colours were always stated as green, White and gold.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,419 ✭✭✭born2bwild


    I'm working class but haven't bothered putting up any flags or bunting. But that's mostly because I suspect we're going to get hammered and come home with zero points. And frankly I resent the interruption to the LOI season.

    So am I.

    Neither have I.

    So do I.

    So do I.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,364 ✭✭✭golden lane


    Katgurl wrote: »
    what is this new debate about? The flag colours were always stated as green, White and gold.

    there are no gold men in ireland.......


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,917 ✭✭✭✭iguana


    Katgurl wrote: »
    what is this new debate about? The flag colours were always stated as green, White and gold.

    They never were by anyone who knew what they were talking about. Article 7 of the Constitution of Ireland states "The National Flag is the Tricolour of Green, White and Orange."


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 13,992 ✭✭✭✭gurramok


    Katgurl wrote: »
    The flag colours were always stated as green, White and gold.

    Who says Katgurl? Do you actually know our flag at all?:eek:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,145 ✭✭✭Katgurl


    iguana wrote: »
    Katgurl wrote: »
    what is this new debate about? The flag colours were always stated as green, White and gold.

    They never were by anyone who knew what they were talking about. Article 7 of the Constitution of Ireland states "The National Flag is the Tricolour of Green, White and Orange."

    I'm so ashamed of my 6 year old self that I just took my teachers word at face value


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,968 ✭✭✭blindside88


    iguana wrote: »
    I don't know, it's just something I heard. But there are quite a few republican type songs which refer to Green, White and Gold as the flag colours. I do remember some teachers (and brownie leaders) insisting we used yellow for our drawings of flags, as it was most like gold. When some kids said it should be orange they were told they were wrong, even when they knew about the meaning the flag they were told they were wrong. I'm not sure if that was just badly educated teachers or a bit of sectarianism.


    Think you might be onto something there, green White and gold certainly wasn't what Thomas Francis maher had in mind when he designed the flag, maybe the colours were changed during the Celtic tiger times to represent the peace between Ireland and gold and how we were so at peace with spending other peoples money.

    Seriously the 2 things that annoy me about the tricolour at this kind of event are lads wearing them a capes and lads dragging them along the ground.... Have a bit of pride in the flag ffs. I like to see so many people getting involved, this kind of event tends to lift the spirit of the nation


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,145 ✭✭✭Katgurl


    gurramok wrote: »
    Katgurl wrote: »
    The flag colours were always stated as green, White and gold.

    Who says Katgurl? Do you actually know our flag at all?:eek:

    I believe I drew it in school a few times. Our teacher told us to use orange but call it gold. What's the problem?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,603 ✭✭✭Mal-Adjusted


    Katgurl wrote: »
    what is this new debate about? The flag colours were always stated as green, White and gold.

    um, that'd be no.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flag_of_Ireland
    The national flag of Ireland is a vertical tricolour of green (at the hoist), white, and orange. It is also known as the Irish tricolour. The flag proportion is 1:2 (length twice the width). The Irish government has described the meaning behind each colour with green representing the Gaelic tradition of Ireland, orange representing the followers of William of Orange in Ireland, and white representing peace, or a truce, between them.

    The flag was adopted in 1919 by the Irish Republic during its war of independence, and subsequently by the Irish Free State (1922–1937), later being given constitutional status under the 1937 Constitution of Ireland. The tricolour is used by nationalists on both sides of the border as the national flag of the whole island of Ireland since 1916.Thus it is flown by many nationalists in Northern Ireland as well as by the Gaelic Athletic Association. It is similar to the flag of Côte d'Ivoire, but that flag is shorter and the colours are reversed.

    It's very clearly always been Green, White and Orange


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,145 ✭✭✭Katgurl


    Katgurl wrote: »
    what is this new debate about? The flag colours were always stated as green, White and gold.

    um, that'd be no.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flag_of_Ireland
    The national flag of Ireland is a vertical tricolour of green (at the hoist), white, and orange. It is also known as the Irish tricolour. The flag proportion is 1:2 (length twice the width). The Irish government has described the meaning behind each colour with green representing the Gaelic tradition of Ireland, orange representing the followers of William of Orange in Ireland, and white representing peace, or a truce, between them.

    The flag was adopted in 1919 by the Irish Republic during its war of independence, and subsequently by the Irish Free State (1922–1937), later being given constitutional status under the 1937 Constitution of Ireland. The tricolour is used by nationalists on both sides of the border as the national flag of the whole island of Ireland since 1916.Thus it is flown by many nationalists in Northern Ireland as well as by the Gaelic Athletic Association. It is similar to the flag of Côte d'Ivoire, but that flag is shorter and the colours are reversed.

    It's very clearly always been [COLOR="PaleGreen"]Green[/COLOR], [COLOR="White"]White[/COLOR] and [COLOR="DarkOrange"]Orange[/COLOR]


    It still looks the same. Green, White and Gold obviously just became an expression. Again, what is the problem with describing it that way?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,364 ✭✭✭golden lane


    the flag was designed to show irelands claim to the six counties.....

    the orange run counties...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 104 ✭✭ha ha hello


    The worst would be if somebody was going to put up an Irish flag at their house but decided against doing so after reading this thread and realising that many would consider them working-class if they did, rather than being characteristic of the middle-class status they aspire to. I suppose that would relate to the Hyacinth Bucket thread from a few days ago. I bet those same people pretend to like rugby and care about the Leinster/Irish rugby team, only drink Heineken and modify and soften their thick accents; most people can spot these contrived affectations a mile off and the person trying to carry them off is neither appreciated nor wanted by any stratum of society. In an effort to give themselves more social freedom, they have shackled themselves into a no-mans land of constantly having the watch and modify their actions and behaviour so as not to give the game away!


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,145 ✭✭✭Katgurl


    the flag was designed to show irelands claim to the six counties.....

    the orange run counties...

    that's actually shocking. So why did our teachers hammer the gold into us? Everyone one of our primary school teachers at that.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,603 ✭✭✭Mal-Adjusted


    Katgurl wrote: »
    It still looks the same.
    Really? I don't know anyone who can't tell the difference between Gold and Orange.
    Katgurl wrote: »
    Green, White and Gold obviously just became an expression. Again, what is the problem with describing it that way?

    the problem is it's wrong. it'd be like the English or Americans saying red, white and purple.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,364 ✭✭✭golden lane


    Katgurl wrote: »
    that's actually shocking. So why did our teachers hammer the gold into us? Everyone one of our primary school teachers at that.

    teachers are not the best educated of people......


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,145 ✭✭✭Katgurl


    The worst would be if somebody was going to put up an Irish flag at their house but decided against doing so after reading this thread and realising that many would consider them working-class if they did, rather than being characteristic of the middle-class status they aspire to. I suppose that would relate to the Hyacinth Bucket thread from a few days ago. I bet those same people pretend to like rugby and care about the Leinster/Irish rugby team, only drink Heineken and modify and soften their thick accents; most people can spot these contrived affectations a mile off and the person trying to carry them off is neither appreciated nor wanted by any stratum of society. In an effort to give themselves more social freedom, they have shackled themselves into a no-mans land of constantly having the watch and modify their actions and behaviour so as not to give the game away!

    yeah and the worst is that some moron actually will do exactly that. My old boss sent back his giant tv he'd been so excited about after a similar discussion in the office a number of years ago. Tw@t.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,145 ✭✭✭Katgurl


    Katgurl wrote: »
    It still looks the same.
    Really? I don't know anyone who can't tell the difference between Gold and Orange.
    Katgurl wrote: »
    Green, White and Gold obviously just became an expression. Again, what is the problem with describing it that way?

    the problem is it's wrong. it'd be like the English or Americans saying red, white and purple.


    Yes but it's still presented as orange just described that way - I thought it was from a song or something in the 80s


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 104 ✭✭ha ha hello


    Katgurl wrote: »
    yeah and the worst is that some moron actually will do exactly that. My old boss sent back his giant tv he'd been so excited about after a similar discussion in the office a number of years ago. Tw@t.

    And for what it's worth.. I've a flag up but live in a pleasant countryside area.. but I really dislike pomposity/ pretentiousness. At the end of the day, we're all lumps of meat that need to wash every few days or we stink...!


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,603 ✭✭✭Mal-Adjusted


    Katgurl wrote: »
    Yes but it's still presented as orange just described that way - I thought it was from a song or something in the 80s

    It's presented as orange because it is orange. I don't know why someone would describe it as gold unless they really didn't know the colours of their own flag, which is really sad.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,145 ✭✭✭Katgurl


    Katgurl wrote: »
    Yes but it's still presented as orange just described that way - I thought it was from a song or something in the 80s

    It's presented as orange because it is orange. I don't know why someone would describe it as gold unless they really didn't know the colours of their own flag, which is really sad.

    ffs. I know it's orange. I just don't know why people are getting enraged about an expression, perhaps it's fizzled out now I dunno, but it was always used in the 80s.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 126 ✭✭CajunPenguin


    circos wrote: »
    Whats wrong with supporting the best club rugby team in Europe?

    I'm just saying OP seems to be a member of the group who somehow get it into their heads that the "common people" are somehow distasteful because they show their country's colours. Typical snobbish view, people nowadays are so obsessed with keeping up appearances


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,145 ✭✭✭Katgurl


    circos wrote: »
    Whats wrong with supporting the best club rugby team in Europe?

    I'm just saying OP seems to be a member of the group who somehow get it into their heads that the "common people" are somehow distasteful because they show their country's colours. Typical snobbish view, people nowadays are so obsessed with keeping up appearances


    No the OP said he'd be hanging out his flag too so I don't see how he can be claiming it's distasteful.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,603 ✭✭✭Mal-Adjusted


    Katgurl wrote: »
    ffs. I know it's orange. I just don't know why people are getting enraged about an expression, perhaps it's fizzled out now I dunno, but it was always used in the 80s.

    well your posts don't seem to reflect it. people take their flags seriously. (I think) the Americans even have decommissioning ceremonies for them. if someone is wrong, they should be corrected, simple as that. I don't see anyone here getting enraged.


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