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Is it a bit common to have Irish flags

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,364 ✭✭✭golden lane


    i was common in ireland to refer to the flag, as green white and gold..........

    not a problem.......sort of a romantic reference......


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,145 ✭✭✭Katgurl


    Katgurl wrote: »
    ffs. I know it's orange. I just don't know why people are getting enraged about an expression, perhaps it's fizzled out now I dunno, but it was always used in the 80s.

    well your posts don't seem to reflect it. people take their flags seriously. (I think) the Americans even have decommissioning ceremonies for them. if someone is wrong, they should be corrected, simple as that. I don't see anyone here getting enraged.

    you are 100% right we should defo look to Americans for guidance on how to conduct ourselves. I will say green White and orange from now on, it has a lovely ring to it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,244 ✭✭✭sdanseo


    I live in an apparently leafy suburb and there's plenty of bunting and car flags about the place, even full tricolours draped out windows. It's not just council estates.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,819 ✭✭✭Hannibal


    It's not a class issue but I do think that people in certain parts of south Dublin would be leaning a lot more towards England and Britain than Ireland to be honest.

    The establishment want to make it look and feel like it's common to support your country in a major sporting tournament, but these type of things bring atmosphere to the fore and will bind and unite us together as a people for the next week or two.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 21,191 ✭✭✭✭Latchy


    It's common to fly the flag from the roof of Áras an Uachtaráin which give or take a million or two ,is about as posh as you can get .


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,145 ✭✭✭Katgurl


    sdeire wrote: »
    I live in an apparently leafy suburb and there's plenty of bunting and car flags about the place, even full tricolours draped out windows. It's not just council estates.

    it mightn't be a council estate but perhaps it's 'a bit common'?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,145 ✭✭✭Katgurl


    Dotsey wrote: »
    It's not a class issue but I do think that people in certain parts of south Dublin would be leaning a lot more towards England and Britain than Ireland to be honest.

    come again? Dublin southsiders support English teams over Irish teams or we behave like them generally?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,603 ✭✭✭Mal-Adjusted


    i was common in ireland to refer to the flag, as green white and gold..........

    not a problem.......sort of a romantic reference......

    that's entirely possible. doesn't stop it being stupid though.
    Katgurl wrote: »
    you are 100% right we should defo look to Americans for guidance on how to conduct ourselves.
    Yes. because that's clearly what my post suggested. ffs :rolleyes:
    Katgurl wrote: »
    I will say green White and orange from now on, it has a lovely ring to it.
    good on you. :D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,930 ✭✭✭Jimoslimos


    Good luck to Croatia. Nijedan Izručenje.
    Oh hai Keith!

    Welcome back :pac:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,364 ✭✭✭golden lane


    Katgurl wrote: »
    come again? Dublin southsiders support English teams over Irish teams or we behave like them generally?

    the cross of saint patrick, with rwo other crosses.....make up the union jack...


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,145 ✭✭✭Katgurl


    i was common in ireland to refer to the flag, as green white and gold..........

    not a problem.......sort of a romantic reference......

    that's entirely possible. doesn't stop it being stupid though.
    Katgurl wrote: »
    you are 100% right we should defo look to Americans for guidance on how to conduct ourselves.
    Yes. because that's clearly what my post suggested. ffs :rolleyes:
    Katgurl wrote: »
    I will say green White and orange from now on, it has a lovely ring to it.
    good on you. :D

    thanks for the boldface and emoticons I wouldn't have been able to figure out your intended meanings otherwise.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 445 ✭✭Brian_Zeluz


    It's common and tacky no doubt and quite a lot of the people who do this are the dregs of society but that doesn't mean that everyone who puts up flags like they're going out of fashion is a scumbag. Plenty of them make a worthwhile contribution to this country so for them that's fine, as long as it's not offensive then we shouldn't care either way.
    Personally I couldn't give a toss about this team or competition and wish I could avoid all mention of it. Yes it's mostly a class thing but so what? If people want to cover their cars and houses in flags etc who are we to say that's wrong? I love seeing the Leinster blue on the way to a match but I'm sure there are plenty of non rugby people who hate it. Live and let live or be a hypocrite.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 105 ✭✭LostInLM


    Katgurl wrote: »
    the flag was designed to show irelands claim to the six counties.....

    the orange run counties...

    that's actually shocking. So why did our teachers hammer the gold into us? Everyone one of our primary school teachers at that.

    Read this: http://www.taoiseach.gov.ie/upload/publications/1104.pdf

    Gold is apparently a nod to our glorious catholic church and the papal flag!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 12,395 ✭✭✭✭mikemac1


    The National Flag should never be defaced by placing slogans, logos, lettering or pictures of any kind on it, for example at sporting events.



    Someone tell Davy Keogh


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 13,422 ✭✭✭✭Bruthal


    Very common. I only painted the cat green white and gold. She died.:(

    She would of died even if you did`t paint her. It would of just taken longer.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 90 ✭✭HerbSimpson


    Everyone I know would also describe it as green white and gold. I remember at St Patricks day parades years ago depending on the vendor they sold two types of flags, one with yellow and one with orange, confused me as a child at the time as to why we had 2 different flags.

    Even search google for "Ireland green white and" gold will be suggested first :pac:

    from wikipedia

    "Occasionally, differing shades of yellow, instead of orange, are seen at civilian functions. However the Department of the Taoiseach state that this is a misrepresentation which "should be actively discouraged",[7] and that worn-out flags should be replaced.[17] In songs and poems, the colours are sometimes enumerated as "green, white and gold" in song, using poetic license. The use of a shade of yellow is also often done intentionally by those who are not comfortable with the generally held belief that the Orange in the flag represents supporters of the Orange order. The Irish government likely actively discourages this since the Good Friday Agreement was signed in 1998 in an effort to foster peace and unity.[18][19]"


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,603 ✭✭✭Mal-Adjusted


    Katgurl wrote: »
    thanks for the boldface and emoticons I wouldn't have been able to figure out your intended meanings otherwise.

    i'm sure you wouldn't
    The National Flag should not be draped
    on cars, trains, boats or other modes of
    transport
    ; it should not be carried flat, but
    should always be carried aloft and free,
    except when used to drape a coffin; on
    such an occasion, the green should be at
    the head of the coffin (Figure H).

    hmm, interesting that.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,500 ✭✭✭✭DEFTLEFTHAND


    Do the council paint back over the houses in these areas when its over or what?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,671 ✭✭✭dav3


    The poor people of Blackrock can't afford flags or buntings anymore, what with having to pay off their 15 apartments in Bulgaria and getting daily botox injections, they haven't a cent left.
    Maybe we should have a whip-round for them?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,364 ✭✭✭golden lane


    Do the council paint back over the houses in these areas when its over or what?

    yes, in the colours of the winning team......this year it will be the union jack.....


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 919 ✭✭✭Pedant


    I donno, Irish flags don't look too pleasing at all. There's little colour coordination. A red and blue sort of thing looks a lot better, like the Union Jack.

    /troll.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,500 ✭✭✭✭DEFTLEFTHAND


    We should fly the free state flag.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,065 ✭✭✭Fighting Irish


    borzaboy wrote: »
    The people in blackrock should start showing a bit of support for there country!

    :rolleyes:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,754 ✭✭✭Odysseus


    I think it is great, up to a few years ago, you were seen as a RA head if you flew our flag; with special branch taking an sudden interest in you. I used to spend some time in northren Sweden, every house would have its flag flying, I would like to see that attitude here, not just at times of big sporting events.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,167 ✭✭✭gsxr1


    Common !!!


    Would ya get your head out of your hole........


    God dam it. I hate snobs .

    Bit of national pride for once is great to see.

    Hope we do well.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,500 ✭✭✭✭DEFTLEFTHAND


    Odysseus wrote: »
    I think it is great, up to a few years ago, you were seen as a RA head if you flew our flag; with special branch taking an sudden interest in you. I used to spend some time in northren Sweden, every house would have its flag flying, I would like to see that attitude here, not just at times of big sporting events.

    Yes a lot of nations practice it, USA being a case in point. We should feel comfortable flying our nations flag and embracing our state. The 26 counties is all we'll ever have and I'm perfectly happy with that. Go Ireland!!!!!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,538 ✭✭✭flutterflye


    All this national pride stuff is a load of nonsense to me really.
    I cannot fathom how putting a flag out because a football team are playing football - that that means you have national pride.
    I mean really think about it.
    It's all just symbolism.
    None of it actually means anything.
    It's all just what certain people have attributed meaning to.
    It's like at rock concerts when everyone makes that devil horn symbol with their hands - I don't see the point - it's just stupid.
    It doesn't matter whether people put stupid flags out or not - stop deciding it means this or that - it's not important at all.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,167 ✭✭✭gsxr1


    All this national pride stuff is a load of nonsense to me really.
    I cannot fathom how putting a flag out because a football team are playing football - that that means you have national pride.
    I mean really think about it.
    It's all just symbolism.
    None of it actually means anything.
    It's all just what certain people have attributed meaning to.
    It's like at rock concerts when everyone makes that devil horn symbol with their hands - I don't see the point - it's just stupid.
    It doesn't matter whether people put stupid flags out or not - stop deciding it means this or that - it's not important at all.

    I never said this to anyone before, but i feel sorry for you.

    If you dont get it why people cheer and make devil horn symbols at an acdc concert then you really dont get humans.

    Really.

    You dont understand why football fans who get to cheer for their countries team, fly the flag. Are you even alive? Dear god.

    I really do feel sorry for you. Your ignorance is holding you back. Let it go. You may feel a little better. ;)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,270 ✭✭✭✭J. Marston


    All this national pride stuff is a load of nonsense to me really.
    I cannot fathom how putting a flag out because a football team are playing football - that that means you have national pride.
    I mean really think about it.
    It's all just symbolism.
    None of it actually means anything.
    It's all just what certain people have attributed meaning to.
    It's like at rock concerts when everyone makes that devil horn symbol with their hands - I don't see the point - it's just stupid.
    It doesn't matter whether people put stupid flags out or not - stop deciding it means this or that - it's not important at all.

    Maybe those people are just getting swept along with a general feel good factor. Everyone hoping Ireland do well at the Euro's and those people at the concert just having a bit of fun or whatever by doing the devil horn thing. But apparently that's stupid.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 641 ✭✭✭howardmarks


    no


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 851 ✭✭✭PrincessLola


    Katgurl wrote: »
    I believe I drew it in school a few times. Our teacher told us to use orange but call it gold. What's the problem?

    LOL. I like to imagine how that was explained to the class. :pac:

    Teacher: use an orange crayon for the Irish flag
    Children: okay
    Teacher: but call it 'gold'
    Children: why?
    Teacher:
    Teacher:
    Teacher: BECAUSE OF REASONS


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,417 ✭✭✭ToddyDoody


    Lets not kid ourselves, it isnt the height of sophistication either. If your personal identity hasnt gone too far beyond the country your from and claim to represent then get thee to a library says i.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,425 ✭✭✭guitarzero


    Folks from blackrock have William of Orange hanging proudly in there second sitting room round the back, what do expect from the legacy of those who came here and rampaged this place? Many of them wouldnt term themselves as truly Irish, just mere occupiers, the masters of puppets of banana republic. Of course, this goes unseen.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,500 ✭✭✭✭DEFTLEFTHAND


    guitarzero wrote: »
    Folks from blackrock have William of Orange hanging proudly in there second sitting room round the back, what do expect from the legacy of those who came here and rampaged this place? Many of them wouldnt term themselves as truly Irish, just mere occupiers, the masters of puppets of banana republic. Of course, this goes unseen.

    Wrong sir, the current Blackrock residents are what I'd term Nouveau riche. The 'occupiers' as you term us live in country estates overlooking vast cattle pastures.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,425 ✭✭✭guitarzero


    Wrong sir, the current Blackrock residents are what I'd term Nouveau riche. The 'occupiers' as you term us live in country estates overlooking vast cattle pastures.

    Excuse me sir, excuse me. My friend has plenty of stories about his summer job renovating houses in the blackrock area, many of whom had paintings and other paraphernalia that indicated an allegiance to the crown and the like. Of course theres a nouveau riche, the cake was there for the taking, its still fresh in our memories.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 20,009 ✭✭✭✭Run_to_da_hills


    There is a commercial building visible from Grand Canal Dock dart station that just has the EU flag waving without the tricolor present. :eek:

    The only time the EU flag should ever be waving on its own on a Dublin building should be at night.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,500 ✭✭✭✭DEFTLEFTHAND


    guitarzero wrote: »
    Excuse me sir, excuse me. My friend has plenty of stories about his summer job renovating houses in the blackrock area, many of whom had paintings and other paraphernalia that indicated an allegiance to the crown and the like. Of course theres a nouveau riche, the cake was there for the taking, its still fresh in our memories.

    You must move on old boy, we're all chums now don't you know.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 20,009 ✭✭✭✭Run_to_da_hills


    You must have a great life when you have so much time to find utter nonsense to worry about.

    Nonsense to all those traitors that voted away our national sovereignty.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,033 ✭✭✭✭Richard Hillman


    In my area, one of the roughest estates is covered in flags and bunting etc. In my estate (which would be a bit quieter) there is nothing up bar a small handful of houses with small flags. I remember during WC94, my estate was decked in Ireland gear and a little less in WC02.

    Over the last 20 years though my estate has changed greatly. A lot of people sold up during the property boom. There seems to be a more well off clientel that lives here than there were 20 years ago. Personally i do think it is a little bit low rent to deck your estate out with tri colours and bunting for a few weeks. Match days are fine IMO.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,802 ✭✭✭✭suicide_circus


    I was in Holland last last week and loads of people had decorated their gafs in the 'Oranje' as well as bars and shops, looked great.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8 Mr Manfred


    I don't think it's a class think. It's obviously a football/sheep thing. Everyone I know with flags up either is an overthetop football fan or can't think for themselves and asked the neighbours where to get the flags. Thankfully the worst I have to put up with (out here in rural Ireland) is the car and pub flags. Besides, the upper classes will all be watching the French Open final today. Now there's a real high society sport - Tennis


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,001 ✭✭✭Mr. Loverman


    I'm from Blackrock and I am so excited to watch the match tonight.

    There are many reasons why the houses aren't covered in flags here, but one of them definitely is the fact that it is a bit of a council estate thing.

    Some of the other reasons are Blackrock people tend to be a bit more reserved, tend to have more pride in the appearance of their property, and are probably a little less "nationalist" than other parts of the country.

    I am sure some people will get annoyed with me for saying this but the people I know in Blackrock would have different priorities than spending their time painting their house green or whatever.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,802 ✭✭✭✭suicide_circus


    I am sure some people will get annoyed with me for saying this but the people I know in Blackrock would have different priorities than spending their time painting their house green or whatever.

    Yeah, like working. The doleys have loads of free time for paddywackery patriotism.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,033 ✭✭✭✭Richard Hillman


    Yeah, like working. The doleys have loads of free time for paddywackery patriotism.

    Your point is proven
    https://p.twimg.com/Au9jxjsCIAATWvl.jpg


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,512 ✭✭✭Ellis Dee


    There's nothing as trashy as snobbish eejits who use "common" as a term of disparagement. "Penny looking down on ha'penny" comes to mind.:):)

    Some countries have very strict rules and guidelines about when, where and how to fly flags and these rules are generally followed very scrupulously.:D

    But Ireland is not one of those countries, and if people are proud of their national team and want to fly their flag in the way they see best, then good luck to them and shag the West Brit begrudgers!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 8,492 ✭✭✭Sir Oxman


    I was in Holland last last week and loads of people had decorated their gafs in the 'Oranje' as well as bars and shops, looked great.


    I was over there too last week and can report the same and yes, it looked great and the talk was of nothing but football.

    Nothing wrong with people going mad every few years, there's not a lot the Irish people can get excited about and look forward to lately so instead of being snobby and picky, people should try going with the flow for once!

    Up the Republic!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,033 ✭✭✭✭Richard Hillman


    Ellis Dee wrote: »
    There's nothing as trashy as snobbish eejits who use "common" as a term of disparagement. "Penny looking down on ha'penny" comes to mind.:):)

    Some countries have very strict rules and guidelines about when, where and how to fly flags and these rules are generally followed very scrupulously.:D

    But Ireland is not one of those countries, and if people are proud of their national team and want to fly their flag in the way they see best, then good luck to them and shag the West Brit begrudgers!

    Im always of the opinion that anybody who uses the words "West Brit" is usually a bit of a simpleton. But bravo, as you went and managed to add the other favourite word of the simpleton community "Begrudger" and turned it into an even bigger moronic attempt at an insult.

    I think that could be possibly the worst post ive ever seen on any forum, ever.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,512 ✭✭✭Ellis Dee


    Im always of the opinion that anybody who uses the words "West Brit" is usually a bit of a simpleton. But bravo, as you went and managed to add the other favourite word of the simpleton community "Begrudger" and turned it into an even bigger moronic attempt at an insult.

    I think that could be possibly the worst post ive ever seen on any forum, ever.


    I hope you are feeling a lot better now that you have gotten all that off your chest.:D:D;);)

    But, apart from lashing out with personal insults against posters with whose views you do not agree, are you actually capable of responding, rationally and logically, to the points I make in my post, even if some of them seem to have touched on a sensitive nerve in whatever you use for thinking?:):)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,033 ✭✭✭✭Richard Hillman


    Ellis Dee wrote: »
    I hope you are feeling a lot better now that you have gotten all that off your chest.:D:D;);)

    But, apart from lashing out with personal insults against posters with whose views you do not agree, are you actually capable of responding, rationally and logically, to the points I make in my post, even if some of them seem to have touched on a sensitive nerve in whatever you use for thinking?:):)

    As soon as i see words such as "west brit" and "begrudger" i pass over the post. Unfortunately you just left those words to last and i lost 20 seconds of my life :(. I wont waste my time responding to a person of a standard that would use such words. Its like the written (or typed) version of a person thats tucks their tracksuit bottoms into you socks.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,811 ✭✭✭xoxyx


    Wikipedia wrote:
    In songs and poems, the colours are sometimes enumerated as "green, white and gold" in song, using poetic license.

    I'm convinced that the use of gold instead of orange was so that the people writing songs and poems about Ireland would have something to rhyme with.

    For example:

    I stand beside our flag of green, white and gold.
    To tell you a story that needs to be told.
    Of brave men who fought and would never grow old.
    Who weathered the rain and the wind and the cold.
    We gathered our fellow men into our fold.
    With a pride in our country which could never be sold.
    As we battle against our fair lands being controlled.
    Even though we all have a fairly bad head cold.

    (And I could go on.)

    Sounds a lot better than

    I stand beside our flag of green, white and orange.
    La la la la la la la la la splorange.


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