Homosexuals are as bad as rapists, Polish nurses taught

SocSocPol

Homosexuality is on a par with rape and prostitution, according to official teaching materials for Poles studying to be nurses and midwives.

Teaching books refer to homosexuality as a "pathology" and the subject often comes under the section of "sexual problems", where students are instructed on "how to identify and provide assistance in situations of sexual assault and sexual disorders".

A multiple-choice question from a 2011 exam paper on gynaecology read: "Homosexuals are particularly dangerous socially and seduce individuals by . . ."
Students are then given a number of options including "abnormal sexual drive" and "prostitution".

Full Story is here:
http://www.independent.ie/world-news/europe/homosexuals-are-as-bad-as-rapists-polish-nurses-taught-3133178.html

Just when you think that the world has grown up a bit in the last century!

Phil the Greek

Here we go again. Always with the prejudice against the prejudiced.

Sykk

Phil the Greek wrote: »

Here we go again. Always with the prejudice against the prejudiced.

It's on a Polish exam paper.. Prejudiced how?

Pushtrak

Sykk wrote: »

It's on a Polish exam paper.. Prejudiced how?

Prejudice against people who are prejudiced against homosexuality.

stimpson

I blame the Greeks. They invented gayness.

Corkfeen

I have a fairly limited knowledge on Poland but aren't they pretty much currently the Ultra Conservative state that Ireland used to be? That would explain the pseudoscientific statements.

Phil the Greek wrote: »

Here we go again. Always with the prejudice against the prejudiced.

Condemnation of unjustified intolerance is always good. Do you have evidence to the contrary?

Pedant

stimpson wrote: »

I blame the Greeks. They invented gayness.

Can someone come up with a better gay joke than that.

Sappa

stimpson wrote: »

I blame the Greeks. They invented gayness.

Those bloody Greeks first they invent the gay then they screw the Euro,if we are not careful the gay could spread to the whole of the Eurozone destroying the birth rate,then who will pay for our pensions.

Phil the Greek

Corkfeen wrote: »

Condemnation of intolerance is always good. Do you have evidence to the contrary?

Is all tolerance good?

Corkfeen

Phil the Greek wrote: »

Corkfeen wrote: »

Condemnation of intolerance is always good. Do you have evidence to the contrary?

Is all tolerance good?

There are some things which should not be tolerated; murder , rape, paedophila etc. However being gay is perfectly natural and there's no legitimate reason to choose to be intolerant of it. I had updated my post to 'unjustified' but phone didn't keep update. Explain to me how homophobia should be considered acceptable?

inmyday

Pedant wrote: »

Can someone come up with a better gay joke than that.

Its not a gay joke, its a quote out of father ted. What ya going mad for?

Pushtrak

Phil the Greek wrote: »

Is all tolerance good?

Ok.... Er, yeah, I thought your first post was typical AH humour. In that pursuit, it was funny, though not original enough to warrant a thanks. It seems like you genuinely hold that opinion. Please, tell me you are just belabouring the joke.

Winty

" All Roads Lead to Rome"

I blame the Nazi Pope

PC CDROM

Corkfeen wrote: »

There are some things which should not be tolerated; murder , rape, paedophila etc. However being gay is perfectly natural and there's no legitimate reason to choose to be intolerant of it.

In fairness all those things you listed are perfectly natural.

Doc Ruby

In before the Magdalene Laundries.

number10a

Poles giving out about the ghey!!! Ha! Talk about hypocrisy. I was straight* until I met my Polish boyfriend.

*This may or may not be true.

Phil the Greek

Corkfeen wrote: »

There are some things which should not be tolerated; murder , rape, paedophila etc. However being gay is perfectly natural and there's no legitimate reason to choose to be intolerant of it.

Leaving the gay thing aside. Tolerance, or intolerance, is a difference of opinion, and you know what they say about them. "Opinions are like arseholes, everyone has one, and they all stink."

Shryke

inmyday wrote: »

Pedant wrote: »

Can someone come up with a better gay joke than that.

Its not a gay joke, its a quote out of father ted. What ya going mad for?

If he's anything like me he can't help but see that that same comment is written every time being gay comes up.
OR, the Chinese, a great bunch of lads.

Corkfeen

PC CDROM wrote: »

Corkfeen wrote: »

There are some things which should not be tolerated; murder , rape, paedophila etc. However being gay is perfectly natural and there's no legitimate reason to choose to be intolerant of it.

In fairness all those things you listed are perfectly natural.

Except the others are extremely harmful to the other parties involved and they are not willing participants.. Ehh, I really shouldn't post from my phone. I never develop my points enough on it.

Mr Benevolent

Bah, it's Poland. They've the equivalent attitude of Ireland 30 years ago.

Annasopra

Confab wrote: »

Bah, it's Poland. They've the equivalent attitude of Ireland 30 years ago.

Not really.

http://www.pinknews.co.uk/2011/11/08/polands-first-gay-and-trans-mps-to-be-sworn-in/

phill106

Pedant wrote: »

Can someone come up with a better gay joke than that.

I would but it would be a pain in the ass...

Higher

Its Polish bashing season since the euros.

To be honest look hard enough in any country and you'll get these sort of incidents. It was only the other month a girl in Ireland was refused an education because she was pregnant and you had posters HERE, who agreed with it.

Annasopra

phill106 wrote: »

I would but it would be a pain in the ass...

pathetic

fran17

phill106 wrote: »

I would but it would be a pain in the ass...

classic

Winty

Winty wrote: »

" All Roads Lead to Rome"

I blame the Nazi Pope

Saw him this morning as it happens. Was talking in a language I don't understand, but it certainly sounded like it was all his fault.

Lawrence1895

Confab wrote: »

Bah, it's Poland. They've the equivalent attitude of Ireland 30 years ago.

Still I know Irish people, who think, Homosexuals are 'sick' and need to be 'treated'.

Some Germans think the same, so do people in Belgium, France, Norway, Greece, China, Papua New Guinea, Burkina Faso...

Anti Homosexuality is not confined to certain countries, it's everywhere. Full stop.

paddyandy

Being 'GAY' is'nt natural at all .The body is'nt designed for their behaviour but the 'gay' industry with money the prime consideration is behind it and supports them . The bum was'nt made for it .The sale of Anal preparations to 'qUEERS' sHOULD BE ENOUGH PROOF .

Annasopra

Lars1916 wrote: »

Still I know Irish people, who think, Homosexuals are 'sick' and need to be 'treated'.

Some Germans think the same, so do people in Belgium, France, Norway, Greece, China, Papua New Guinea, Burkina Faso...

Anti Homosexuality is not confined to certain countries, it's everywhere. Full stop.

It is important to distinguish between attitudes and beliefs and structures that reinforce homophobia. In this case it seems like the education system is reinforcing it and teaching it rather than just what a few people think or believe.

Logical Fallacy

paddyandy wrote: »

Being 'GAY' is'nt natural at all .The body is'nt designed for their behaviour but the 'gay' industry with money the prime consideration is behind it and supports them . The bum was'nt made for it .The sale of Anal preparations to 'qUEERS' sHOULD BE ENOUGH PROOF .

Too obvious, even for you paddy.

Leeg17

paddyandy wrote: »

Being 'GAY' is'nt natural at all .The body is'nt designed for their behaviour but the 'gay' industry with money the prime consideration is behind it and supports them . The bum was'nt made for it .The sale of Anal preparations to 'qUEERS' sHOULD BE ENOUGH PROOF .

Banned.

Next sign of homophobic posting earns a person a ban and the thread's getting locked.

spurious

paddyandy wrote: »

Being 'GAY' is'nt natural at all .The body is'nt designed for their behaviour but the 'gay' industry with money the prime consideration is behind it and supports them . The bum was'nt made for it .The sale of Anal preparations to 'qUEERS' sHOULD BE ENOUGH PROOF .

I love a laugh of a Sunday - thanks for that.
I think you got a bit excited with the caps lock. It was probably the word 'anal' that did it. I don't blame you.

*oops apologies mod**

spurious

We in Ireland had an exam question about Justin Bieber the other day - now THAT'S scary.

PucaMama

spurious wrote: »

paddyandy wrote: »

Being 'GAY' is'nt natural at all .The body is'nt designed for their behaviour but the 'gay' industry with money the prime consideration is behind it and supports them . The bum was'nt made for it .The sale of Anal preparations to 'qUEERS' sHOULD BE ENOUGH PROOF .

If this person gets banned whats the point in having a one sided thread???? Or are we even allowed an opinion???

It's pretty shocking to think that sort of thing is being taught in the modern world. But it's certainly not just Poland. It's still an executionable offence in some countries. The world is a pretty fcuked up place.

fran17

paddyandy wrote: »

Being 'GAY' is'nt natural at all .The body is'nt designed for their behaviour but the 'gay' industry with money the prime consideration is behind it and supports them . The bum was'nt made for it .The sale of Anal preparations to 'qUEERS' sHOULD BE ENOUGH PROOF .

i probably would'nt have worded it the same but is his point not correct.the rectum does not produce a natural lubricant for this kind of activity,so how is it natural?

Leeg17

PucaMama wrote: »

If this person gets banned whats the point in having a one sided thread???? Or are we even allowed an opinion???

You are, just not homophobic ones.

Logical Fallacy

PucaMama wrote: »

If this person gets banned whats the point in having a one sided thread???? Or are we even allowed an opinion???

Of course you can have an opinion, you just need to express it in a decent manner.

Bring a reasonable structured argument to the thread and it will be entertained. Do a quick search of paddy posting history and you will see that reasonably structured arguments are not his strong suit.

btard

paddyandy wrote: »

Being 'GAY' is'nt natural at all .The body is'nt designed for their behaviour but the 'gay' industry with money the prime consideration is behind it and supports them . The bum was'nt made for it .The sale of Anal preparations to 'qUEERS' sHOULD BE ENOUGH PROOF .

You are not allowed to air this point of view on here. Only pc views and opinions are welcome. I'm sure someone will be along shortly to point out the error of your ways and silence you. If you want a balanced or reasoned debate go else where. Enjoy your day.

Logical Fallacy

fran17 wrote: »

i probably would'nt have worded it the same but is his point not correct.the rectum does not produce a natural lubricant for this kind of activity,so how is it natural?

Neither does the hand, yet I'm pretty sure that touching the penis with the hand during intercourse is a common enough practice.

Also, if we extend the argument regarding what is natural to the concept the procreation should be for conception (as many people will do), then a blowjob is unnatural despite the presence of a natural lubricant etc etc etc.

Basically your argument is fine in a limited sense, but the goalposts are too easy to move and it's easier to accept the the idea of what is "natural" tends to be a personal preference rather than some kind of iron clad rule.

SocSocPol

fran17 wrote: »

i probably would'nt have worded it the same but is his point not correct.the rectum does not produce a natural lubricant for this kind of activity,so how is it natural?

Well it is apparently acceptable when a man does it with a woman.
Also I note the sexist nature of your post, so only men can be gay?
What is really offensive is that medical professionals are being trained to believe this crap, medical professionals that may end up working in our hospitals.

Sir Oxman

paddyandy wrote: »

Being 'GAY' is'nt natural at all .The body is'nt designed for their behaviour but the 'gay' industry with money the prime consideration is behind it and supports them . The bum was'nt made for it .The sale of Anal preparations to 'qUEERS' sHOULD BE ENOUGH PROOF .

Jaysus, it's Mick the Barman.

PucaMama

Logical Fallacy wrote: »

PucaMama wrote: »

spurious wrote: »

If this person gets banned whats the point in having a one sided thread???? Or are we even allowed an opinion???

Of course you can have an opinion, you just need to express it in a decent manner.

Bring a reasonable structured argument to the thread and it will be entertained. Do a quick search of paddy posting history and you will see that reasonably structured arguments are not his strong suit.

Im not defending what he said. I just no from my own personal experience that anything said not in favour of gay people will be labelled homophobic and taken like a personal attack.

Logical Fallacy

btard wrote: »

You are not allowed to air this point of view on here. Only pc views and opinions are welcome. I'm sure someone will be along shortly to point out the error of your ways and silence you. If you want a balanced or reasoned debate go else where. Enjoy your day.

lol, you don't read AH much do you?

PucaMama wrote: »

Im not defending what he said. I just no from my own personal experience that anything said not in favour of gay people will be labelled homophobic and taken like a personal attack.

By a small number of posters, in exactly the same fashion that some small number of posters will label any pro-gay statement as being "PC" and "leftist".

apache

lol i doubt very much spurious said that - what she was quoted as saying :P

Logical Fallacy

apache wrote: »

lol i doubt very much spurious said that - what she was quoted as saying :P

Yeah, i fixed the quotes and assigned it to the proper poster.

apache

i'm like a little nancy drew me

PucaMama

Logical Fallacy wrote: »

btard wrote: »

You are not allowed to air this point of view on here. Only pc views and opinions are welcome. I'm sure someone will be along shortly to point out the error of your ways and silence you. If you want a balanced or reasoned debate go else where. Enjoy your day.

lol, you don't read AH much do you?

PucaMama wrote: »

Im not defending what he said. I just no from my own personal experience that anything said not in favour of gay people will be labelled homophobic and taken like a personal attack.

By a small number of posters, in exactly the same fashion that some small number of posters will label any pro-gay statement as being "PC" and "leftist".

No, I meant real,offline people. Like my sister. Some gay people think they deserve martyrdom.

Logical Fallacy

Logical Fallacy wrote: »

Neither does the hand, yet I'm pretty sure that touching the penis with the hand during intercourse is a common enough practice.

Exactly. Women also require lubrication. And I've read threads here before claiming that a huge percentage of women cannot orgasm from vaginal penetration, a woman's orgasm can play a part in conception, so surely if sex was only about procreating, all women would orgasm from penetrative sex? I could keep going with that argument, but I won't.

I always wonder how many of the people who are dead set against "the gays", enjoy a nice bit of lesbian porn.

Logical Fallacy

PucaMama wrote: »

No, I meant real,offline people. Like my sister. Some gay people think they deserve martyrdom.

Well in that case you are bringing your own personal experience , which is fair enough, but I obviously don't know your or your sister so can't really comment.

Personally I would look at your argument based of it's own merit and your choice of language...I've yet to see a decent argument that makes me think homosexuality is "evil" or "unnatural" though, because as I already said, those two things tend to be based on personal preference.

Deleted User wrote: »

Exactly. Women also require lubrication. And I've read threads here before claiming that a huge percentage of women cannot orgasm from vaginal penetration, a woman's orgasm can play a part in conception, so surely if sex was only about procreating, all women would orgasm from penetrative sex? I could keep going with that argument, but I won't.

I always wonder how many of the people who are dead set against "the gays", enjoy a nice bit of lesbian porn.

Exactly. Once again, that just roles back to my personal preferences argument. It's not homosexuality that people are against, so much as things they themselves don't like.

You will even have cases of a straight male who watches a bit of lesbian porn, yet calls actual lesbians dykes etc. The porn doesn't interrupt the fantasy of him interacting with two women in a sexual manner, the reality of the lesbian obviously does.

People are retards basically.

Deleted User

Deleted User wrote: »

Exactly. Women also require lubrication. And I've read threads here before claiming that a huge percentage of women cannot orgasm from vaginal penetration, a woman's orgasm can play a part in conception, so surely if sex was only about procreating, all women would orgasm from penetrative sex? I could keep going with that argument, but I won't.

I always wonder how many of the people who are dead set against "the gays", enjoy a nice bit of lesbian porn.

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