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dj jarvis

prinz wrote: »

What a fantastic answer, reinforces my own position nicely.

how please ? your posting tripe , a pseudo crusade for your view point

so how did me pointing this out reinforce your unintelligible waffle ?

seriously you really have nothing better to do

Helix

prinz wrote: »

Do explain.

basically the entire pedobear thing is a mickey take of the hysteria created around the whole thing. it's a blatantly not serious creation that, about any other topic, would be seen as a wind up. however given the subject matter it's associated with, it instead is taken to mean support of child rapists.

its satire intended to evoke responses just like yours

that's the joke

btard

prinz wrote: »

Christ on a bike.

Can you explain what is funny about any aspect of our saviour riding a bike?

prinz

dj jarvis wrote: »

how please ? your posting tripe , a pseudo crusade for your view point

Will I ask again? What "crusade"... some people find it funny. I don't. I don't understand the humour tbh and I think it actually is taken seriously by some people with a pervy eye for underage girls and I find that objectionable. Now where does the "crusade" come in?

dj jarvis wrote: »

seriously you really have nothing better to do

.....you must be in the same boat surely?

eviltwin

Opticom wrote: »

The issue is not what I find funny or don't, I'm trying to understand exactly what aspect of paedophilia or paedophiles, or their techniques etc. other people find funny and why. I think the reactions are almost as intresting as the fact the question has not been answered.

Its funny because sometimes the best way to deal with horrible acts is to laugh at them. I can laugh at some jokes about abuse - depends on the joke, the context - and I say that as an abuse survivor. Sometimes you need to laugh at it or you will go mad. No one is saying that child abuse is trivial or funny.

Opticom

Opticom wrote: »

Simple, I don't see how any aspect regarding the abuse of children could be funny, and I don't tell or laugh at that type of joke. That's what the OP is about. Perhaps now you'll answer my question, instead of trying the diversions.

Answer my question as to why you find those other kind of jokes funny? Then you'll get your answer.

If you told:
A racist joke - do you really think the race it's aimed at thinks its funny?
A sexist joke - do you think the sex it's aimed at find it funny?
A joke at someone's expense - do you think the people it's aimed at finds it funny?
A joke about somebody (perhaps a celebrity)'s death - do you think their family finds it funny?

So, the point is that you, nor I nor anyone else here is a saint. We laugh at things we shouldn't? Why? Because we're human and we find it funny.

Why do I find Pedobear funny? It highlights the scaremongering that goes on in the world by the media and by everyone else.

As an aside-
I was in the €2 shop a while back when there was this young girl in front of me, probably no older than 10. Her mother had obviously told her that she could pay for her own stuff and she was next in line, with the cashier calling her, but she wasn't paying attention as she was looking around, so I placed my hand on her shoulder to get her attention and told her she was next. That was it. When I left the shop, I began to think about how risky that had been. It could have been so easily turned around against me.

If I'm walking through a shopping centre and I see a child by themselves, one of my first instincts is to go up and ask if they're OK, especially if I see they're in distress; I've been that child, I think most have been that child and know it's not fun. But I stop myself, why? Because of the scaremongering that goes on.

To quote Scroobius Pip:
"Thou shalt not think that any male over the age of 30 that plays with a child that is not their own is a peadophile... Some people are just nice."

prinz

Helix wrote: »

its satire intended to evoke responses just like yours

..and as I have alluded to I have seen it used in a means that had nothing to do with satire or mockery. Still funny?.. and by the by I have never said it was making a joke of actual child abuse.

dj jarvis

prinz wrote: »

Will I ask again? What "crusade"... some people find it funny. I don't. I don't understand the humour tbh and I think it actually is taken seriously by some people with a pervy eye for underage girls and I find that objectionable. Now where does the "crusade" come in?



.....you must be in the same boat surely?

no , i have plenty to do , just not doing it :-)

Opticom

eviltwin wrote: »

Its funny because sometimes the best way to deal with horrible acts is to laugh at them.

Which acts of child abuse do you think are best dealt with by laughing at ?

tdv123

Lol, thats hilarious that, even more hilarious that some news channel think its a real pedophile ring.

Helix

prinz wrote: »

..and as I have alluded to I have seen it used in a means that had nothing to do with satire or mockery. Still funny?.. and by the by I have never said it was making a joke of actual child abuse.

is it possible that the satire just went over your head, or that you're simply looking for something to be offended by?

MagicMarker

Opticom wrote: »

Which acts of child abuse do you think are best dealt with by laughing at ?

You're just taking the piss now in fairness.

prinz

Helix wrote: »

is it possible that the satire just went over your head, or that you're simply looking for something to be offended by?

When I get emails of pictures of young girls that have been taken off facebook accounts and the likes with a photoshopped paedobear and a rating out of 10, then no I don't think the satire went over my head.

eviltwin

Opticom wrote: »

Which acts of child abuse do you think are best dealt with by laughing at ?

All of it. Its a defense mechanism. It doesn't mean we think its okay or acceptable or that we harbor secret desires to abuse kids. ITS A JOKE!!! Stop taking it so damn seriously.

dj jarvis

i take it that the ones shouting loudest about this have never laughed at a inappropriate joke ?

never ? bet you have and laughed hard

but its only funny when YOU think its funny - otherwise moral overload

pathetic

Jester252

I think that every news agency have an internet empolyee to prevent artilces like this

Helix

prinz wrote: »

When I get emails of pictures of young girls that have been taken off facebook accounts and the likes with a photoshopped paedobear and a rating out of 10, then no I don't think the satire went over my head.

there are 3 reasons i dont believe this;

1) it seems very convenient given the conversation at hand
2) it suggests that you are in the same social circles as pedophiles, since you are positive that the mails weren't sent with satire in mind
3) it suggests that these pedophiles thought you might be interested in seeing it to begin with

Marley13

Opticom wrote: »

Which acts of child abuse do you think are best dealt with by laughing at ?

Some people deal with their childhood abuse with laughter, everybody copes differently. Russell Brand is a good example of this.

prinz

Helix wrote: »

there are 3 reasons i dont believe this;
1) it seems very convenient given the conversation at hand

Believe whatever you want.

Helix wrote: »

2) it suggests that you are in the same social circles as pedophiles, since you are positive that the mails weren't sent with satire in mind

Ah but sure it's only a joke, it's not "really" laughing at child abuse.. and as I said a 10 second google will get you plenty of examples of what I mean.

Helix wrote: »

3) it suggests that these pedophiles thought you might be interested in seeing it to begin with

No, apparently they thought it was funny. Maybe they thought it was a commentary on media hype. Let's just say I won't be getting any emails of any kind from the moron ever again.

Helix

so if they thought it was funny were they not sending it on in a satirical manner then? you're kind of arguing against yourself here

Opticom

Deleted User wrote: »

Answer my question as to why you find those other kind of jokes funny? Then you'll get your answer.

I don't find them funny, or jokes at other peoples expense, or jokes that put other people down, that's just me, it's not my sense of humour. That's why I'm asking.

Deleted User wrote: »

Why do I find Pedobear funny? It highlights the scaremongering that goes on in the world by the media and by everyone else.

One in four people in Ireland experience sexual abuse. To my mind there's nothing funny about it, or the consequential damage/effects on society such as scaremongering.

MagicMarker

prinz wrote: »

Believe whatever you want.



Ah but sure it's only a joke, it's not "really" laughing at child abuse.. and as I said a 10 second google will get you plenty of examples of what I mean.



No, apparently they thought it was funny. Maybe they thought it was a commentary on media hype. Let's just say I won't be getting any emails of any kind from the moron ever again.

I assume you've cut all contact with these people in protest of their disrespectful sense of humour?

Opticom

Opticom wrote: »

I don't find them funny, or jokes at other peoples expense, or jokes that put other people down, that's just me, it's not my sense of humour. That's why I'm asking.



One in four people in Ireland experience sexual abuse. There's nothing funny about it, or any consequential damage/effects such as scaremongering.

Then that's fine. You should just step back then because no further discussion will make you understand why these things are funny. Well, I'm stepping back.

prinz

Helix wrote: »

so if they thought it was funny were they not sending it on in a satirical manner then? you're kind of arguing against yourself here

I was merely 'accepting' the common attitude here that it must be either satire, or a social commentary.

prinz

MagicMarker wrote: »

I assume you've cut all contact with these people in protest of their disrespectful sense of humour?

You would be correct.

Oafley Jones

Could someone explain to me why people find Michael McIntyre funny?

Sonics2k

The whole thread has gone completely off-topic anyway. The discussion is not about whether or not Pedo Bear is a suitable joke, because not everyone will agree on it.

What the thread is about, is the just how freaking stupid the media (and people) can be, and how easily they can over-react and jump to conclusions before doing any actual research.

The Pedo Bear page on Facebook has nothing to do with pedo's and even this segment from the article is complete wrong, and proves that they didn't not even visit the page before writing an enraged article

A new report claims pedophiles are now using Facebook to trade child pornography.

The WorldNetDaily report shows Facebook hosts more than a dozen child pornography groups and even more predator profiles

MagicMarker

prinz wrote: »

You would be correct.

And surely such principles mean you'll soon be closing your Boards.ie account?

Well that's a shame ok bye now.

Lyaiera

Oafley Jones wrote: »

Could someone explain to me why people find Michael McIntyre funny?

It's because he might be a homosexual or he might just be very English.

It's laughing through befuddlement.

Oafley Jones

Lyaiera wrote: »

It's because he might be a homosexual or he might just be very English.

It's laughing through befuddlement.

I still don't understand. Explain it to me again?:pac:

Helix

prinz wrote: »

I was merely 'accepting' the common attitude here that it must be either satire, or a social commentary.

but if it wasnt either then they were clearly sending you on pedophilic content which they thought you would enjoy?

prinz

MagicMarker wrote: »

And surely such principles mean you'll soon be closing your Boards.ie account? Well that's a shame ok bye now.

I didn't close my email account, so no.

prinz

Helix wrote: »

but if it wasnt either then they were clearly sending you on pedophilic content which they thought you would enjoy?

But we've just had pages of comments about how pedobear has nothing to do with paedophiles.

dj jarvis

Oafley Jones wrote: »

Could someone explain to me why people find Michael McIntyre funny?

dont mind micheal mcintyre , some of the stuff frankie boyle does on pedos is hilarious , and its on prime time c4 in the uk

pedo bear is tame in comparison , so how did he get the commission if its so abhorrent to the majority ?

im really not getting this moral outrage - lots of real issues to excite people

this really is a slow motion car crash of a thread
beats looking at ireland getting ass f2ucked by Croatia

This thread is now about

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5_sfnQDr1-o

Baby monkeys riding backwards on a pig.

The King of Moo

Deleted User wrote: »

This thread is now about

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5_sfnQDr1-o

Baby monkeys riding backwards on a pig.

That's porcine abuse!! How can you laugh at such a thing!!??

Do you think pigs glancing at this thread on their owners' computers would find that funny!!??

dj jarvis

prinz wrote: »

But we've just had pages of comments about how pedobear has nothing to do with paedophiles.

how many time do you have to be told this

i has nothing to do with REAL pedos

its teenage kids looking for a reaction with crass humor

why do you not get this ????

Logical Fallacy

Opticom wrote: »

That doesn't answer the question, exactly what's funny about any aspect of padoephilia ?

People spelling it wrong is pretty funny.

prinz

dj jarvis wrote: »

how many time do you have to be told this
i has nothing to do with REAL pedos why do you not get this ????

On the one hand I get the above, on the other I am told it's clearly paedophilic content.... so you take the very same material and interpret it two very different ways. Which is basically my point from the start.

Madam_X

Such jokes have to contain cleverness for me personally to find them funny, generally outrageous for outrageous' sake or being a dick (e.g. Frankie Boyle) doesn't do it for me.

dj jarvis

prinz wrote: »

On the one hand I get the above, on the other I am told it's clearly paedophilic content.... so you take the very same material and interpret it two very different ways. Which is basically my point from the start.

who told you that ?

only a moron would definitively say or think it had anything to do with sex crimes

you must like banging your head against a wall , because for the last hour that is all you have been doing

like i said its only a outrage because YOU feel its one

does not make it so for the rest of the posters - but feel free to keep on banging - i could do with a laugh

Oafley Jones

prinz wrote: »

On the one hand I get the above, on the other I am told it's clearly paedophilic content.... so you take the very same material and interpret it two very different ways. Which is basically my point from the start.

This is where you'd use common sense.

prinz

dj jarvis wrote: »

who told you that ?
only a moron would definitively say or think it had anything to do with sex crimes

Helix wrote: »

but if it wasnt either then they were clearly sending you on pedophilic content which they thought you would enjoy?

So if it isn't satire, or a commentary on the media, then the only other clear alternative is it actual is paedophilic content...

dj jarvis wrote: »

like i said its only a outrage because YOU feel its one

I never called anything an outrage? More of your hyperbolic nonsense. All I have said is that I don't see any humour in it whatsoever, and that it isn't always the workings of some joker.

dj jarvis

Oafley Jones wrote: »

This is where you'd use common sense.

this is the problem , obviously not so common

The King of Moo

prinz wrote: »

So if it isn't satire, or a commentary on the media, then the only other clear alternative is it actual is paedophilic content...

Not necessarily. Some people's humour doesn't extend beyond "Hurr hurr, this looks like paedophilia!" But that doesn't make the e-mail's content paedophiliac , especially if there was no clear sexual element to the pictures.

dj jarvis

prinz wrote: »

So if it isn't satire, or a commentary on the media, then the only other clear alternative is it actual is paedophilic content...



I never called anything an outrage? More of your hyperbolic nonsense. All I have said is that I don't see any humour in it whatsoever, and that it isn't always the workings of some joker.

proof please ?

as for hyperbolic ...... haw haw haw , thanks for the laugh , at least you understood what i wrote when i said i need one , bravo , your starting to get the hang of this reading and understanding lark

again - pathetic

Helix

prinz wrote: »

But we've just had pages of comments about how pedobear has nothing to do with paedophiles.

your arguments are getting increasingly circular

your friends either sent them on to you because

1) they found it funny, given the nature of pedobear

or

2) they thought it was serious, and enjoyed it, and thought that you would too

which one do you think is the most likely?

prinz

The King of Moo wrote: »

Not necessarily. Some people's humour doesn't extend beyond "Hurr hurr, this looks like paedophilia!" But that doesn't make the e-mails paedophiliac content, especially if there was no clear sexual element to the pictures.

I'd suggest that if you have to explain a joke in that kind of detail then it's not particularly effective or funny to begin with which is perhaps why I don't find the pedobear stuff funny at all, whereas I can laugh at other sketches on the same topic.

Logical Fallacy

prinz wrote: »

I'd suggest that if you have to explain a joke in that kind of detail then it's not particularly effective or funny to begin with which is perhaps why I don't find the pedobear stuff funny at all, whereas I can laugh at other sketches on the same topic.

You could have to explain any joke though, depending on the audience.

Humour being a personal device and all that.

prinz

Helix wrote: »

your arguments are getting increasingly circular
your friends either sent them on to you because
1) they found it funny, given the nature of pedobear

What if they did? Does that make it ok? Of course finding it funny doesn't preclude more sinister interests.