Do women have all the power...

Daveysil15

SheFiend wrote: »

You can't change other people, you can only change yourself.

If you feel women lead you on in order to get free drinks, but you continue to buy them drinks in the hope of a lay, then you can hardly expect anything else now can you?

Better to not be a sucker in the first place.

I agree 100% That's why I don't bother buying women drinks. Even if she did put out afterwards, it would almost be the same as prostitution! I don't want a sexual encounter to be a transaction.

niamhx

People only have the power you give them.

I'm sure someone important somewhere said that

Daveysil15

niamhx wrote: »

People only have the power you give them.

Yes that's been used more times than the Lock & Key analogy.

niamhx

Daveysil15 wrote: »

niamhx wrote: »

People only have the power you give them.

Yes that's been used more times than the Lock & Key analogy.

Don't care, I'm a woman so therefore I've the power to say what I like :pac:

grindle

niamhx wrote: »

Don't care, I'm a woman so therefore I've the power to say what I like :pac:

May the power of spinsterism be bestowed upon thee.

bodice ripper

If I have all the power, the power clearly doesn't include getting laid.

niamhx

grindle wrote: »

niamhx wrote: »

Don't care, I'm a woman so therefore I've the power to say what I like :pac:

May the power of spinsterism be bestowed upon thee.

Jeez, I was just kidding !! My powers clearly work, I've held onto him for 20yrs.

Maybe if you weren't so quick to judge, yours would too.

Daveysil15

bodice ripper wrote: »

If I have all the power, the power clearly doesn't include getting laid.

No that power lies with the women. Look at all the escorts that are working in Ireland. There's clearly a demand for it.

bodice ripper

Daveysil15 wrote: »

No that power lies with the women. Look at all the escorts that are working in Ireland. There's clearly a demand for it.

If I can't get laid for free, it is unlikely I have the power to make money doing it.

I wouldn't be on here right now if i could.

Daveysil15

bodice ripper wrote: »

If I can't get laid for free, it is unlikely I have the power to make money doing it.

I wouldn't be on here right now if i could.

I was referring to the female escorts. Yes I couldn't see too many male escorts catering to women's needs, as the women can get it for free.

bodice ripper

Daveysil15 wrote: »

bodice ripper wrote: »

If I can't get laid for free, it is unlikely I have the power to make money doing it.

I wouldn't be on here right now if i could.

I was referring to the female escorts. Yes I couldn't see too many male escorts catering to women's needs, as the women can get it for free.

I am female.

R019912

To be blunt and answer the question, women have most of the power. I broke up with my long term girlfriend a few months ago. If I wanna go out and get sex, with a girl I find attractive, then its generally a lot of work, unless I get really lucky. But if my ex wanted to go out and have sex with a guy she found attractive, she could easily get it. Implying that women have way more power when it comes to sex.

Daveysil15

bodice ripper wrote: »

I am female.

My apologies. When you said you didn't have the power to get laid I assumed you were a male. Surely it can't be that difficult?

Potatoeman

Daveysil15 wrote: »

Ireland has more single people per capita than any other country in Europe.

Irish people over think way too much. I dated a few Eastern European girls and they pointed out that they would go out with someone if asked even if they were not interested especially if they were not doing anything. Nothing might happen but they would be more inclined to give the person a chance and it would be something to do. We also have a culture of meeting people in the pub frequently when drunk so we don’t really approach people we don’t know out and about.

hatrickpatrick

I love the way this thread (or threads similar to it) always get resurrected on Saturday and Sunday mornings.

Things go wrong for ye last night, lads?

Daveysil15

Potatoeman wrote: »

Irish people over think way too much. I dated a few Eastern European girls and they pointed out that they would go out with someone if asked even if they were not interested especially if they were not doing anything. Nothing might happen but they would be more inclined to give the person a chance and it would be something to do. We also have a culture of meeting people in the pub frequently when drunk so we don’t really approach people we don’t know out and about.

I agree 100%. I've also noticed that if the Eastern European women are not interested, they'll still chat to you and then reject you polietly. You can leave with your pride intact.

PrincessLola

R019912 wrote: »

To be blunt and answer the question, women have most of the power. I broke up with my long term girlfriend a few months ago. If I wanna go out and get sex, with a girl I find attractive, then its generally a lot of work, unless I get really lucky. But if my ex wanted to go out and have sex with a guy she found attractive, she could easily get it. Implying that women have way more power when it comes to sex.

Wah! Getting a woman to have sex with me requires effort,
therefore WIMMIN HAVE ALL TEH POWER, WE LIVE IN A MATRIARCHY.

I wonder if you realise how entitled you sound right now?

Seriously, no one owes you sex.

Daveysil15

PrincessLola wrote: »

Wah! Getting a woman to have sex with me requires effort,
therefore WIMMIN HAVE ALL TEH POWER, WE LIVE IN A MATRIARCHY.

I wonder if you realise how entitled you sound right now?

Seriously, no one owes you sex.

I wonder if you realise how you sound right now. You're not exaclty doing your gender any favors. He never referred to women in a derogatory way. I don't think anyone in this thread used the phrase wimmin until you mentioned it.

Scanlas The 2nd

Daveysil15 wrote: »

Potatoeman wrote: »

Irish people over think way too much. I dated a few Eastern European girls and they pointed out that they would go out with someone if asked even if they were not interested especially if they were not doing anything. Nothing might happen but they would be more inclined to give the person a chance and it would be something to do. We also have a culture of meeting people in the pub frequently when drunk so we don’t really approach people we don’t know out and about.

I agree 100%. I've also noticed that if the Eastern European women are not interested, they'll still chat to you and then reject you polietly. You can leave with your pride intact.

Why can't you leave with your pride in tact if someone was needlessly rude to you? They were rude not you.

As for being rejected, why should that hurt your pride, no man can get every woman.

Eve_Dublin

Potatoeman wrote: »

Irish people over think way too much. I dated a few Eastern European girls and they pointed out that they would go out with someone if asked even if they were not interested especially if they were not doing anything. Nothing might happen but they would be more inclined to give the person a chance and it would be something to do. We also have a culture of meeting people in the pub frequently when drunk so we don’t really approach people we don’t know out and about.

Maybe there's less pressure on Irish women and men to be in a relationship? It's not the be all and end of all of everything. I've a few Eastern European friends and my god, they've dated some ****. I've a very good Romanian friend here who's seeing a Spanish guy and you know what he said to her recently? "You're good looking but nothing ever interesting has ever come out of your mouth!" :eek:


I think there's more of a stigma of being single in some EE countries that doesn't exist at home. They're quite traditional in that respect and tend to settle down a lot younger...at least from what I've observed...

PrincessLola

Daveysil15 wrote: »

I wonder if you realise how you sound right now. You're not exaclty doing your gender any favors. He never referred to women in a derogatory way. I don't think anyone in this thread used the phrase wimmin until you mentioned it.

He is saying that being unable to get pussy on the tap means he is OPPRESSED and that therefore women have all the power in relationships.

Its just so entitled. That is not what oppression is. And that is not how the power dynamic works.

not doing your gender any favours

I'm trying to find a f*ck to give...

Can't find one. Not a single one

The King of Moo

PrincessLola wrote: »

He is saying that being unable to get pussy on the tap means he is OPPRESSED and that therefore women have all the power in relationships.

Its just so entitled. That is not what oppression is. And that is not how the power dynamic works.



I'm trying to find a f*ck to give...

Can't find one. Not a single one

But I thought it was easier for a woman to find a f*ck??

:pac:

midlandsmissus

PrincessLola wrote: »

He is saying that being unable to get pussy on the tap means he is OPPRESSED and that therefore women have all the power in relationships.

Its just so entitled. That is not what oppression is. And that is not how the power dynamic works.



I'm trying to find a f*ck to give...

Can't find one. Not a single one

Exactly, no person is entitled to sex on tap. It's a two person act, there's your wishes,and the other person's wishes, when you both want it, then you have sex.

I one had a guy say to me, 'I thought that's what guys get into relationships for - because they have sex on tap' ehhhhh no you're not entitled. The other person also has to be in the mood, how can people be so stupid sometimes, and so inconsiderate of other people for their own stupid orgasm?

If you break down the whole man buying woman drink all night to get laid, if you break it deep, deep down, he is trying to get her into a vulnerable state to satisfy his own needs. No-one ever feel bad about this?

VEN

how does one thank these posts?, there should be a 'thumb' thing

The King of Moo

VEN wrote: »

how does one thank these posts?, there should be a 'thumb' thing

You have to have ten posts before you can thank other posts.

VEN

no woman can get every man. i love ignoring them, it drives them loo laa. they think sex is power. what a laugh. power over weak men probably.

VEN

The King of Moo wrote: »

You have to have ten posts before you can thank other posts.

thanks!

VEN

Daveysil15 wrote: »

No that power lies with the women. Look at all the escorts that are working in Ireland. There's clearly a demand for it.

the power lies with man, the holder of the purse. they can decide to go or not to go as they have the power to do that. the escort cant phone the man and beg him to go to her and pay her for sex. she's powerless and also vulnerable.

Snowie

VEN wrote: »

no woman can get every man. i love ignoring them, it drives them loo laa. they think sex is power. what a laugh. power over weak men probably.

Really what makes any woman's vaginal confinds so special ok some are warmer then others but really.....


sersouly if i don't want to sleep with a woman i won't .....

Daveysil15

Scanlas The 2nd wrote: »

Why can't you leave with your pride in tact if someone was needlessly rude to you? They were rude not you.

As for being rejected, why should that hurt your pride, no man can get every woman.

Well its a lot easier to approach people if they're polite to you. If you're constantly been told to fcuk off and given the cold shoulder, it does tend to affect your confidence, and more than likely turn you off approaching anyone else. It's no wonder why a lot of men find it difficult approaching women.

The King of Moo

Daveysil15 wrote: »

Well its a lot easier to approach people if they're polite to you. If you're constantly been told to fcuk off and given the cold shoulder, it does tend to affect your confidence, and more than likely turn you off approaching anyone else. It's no wonder why a lot of men find it difficult approaching women.

If someone is constantly being told to f*ck off, then there's a good chance the problem is with their approach, and not the woman they're trying to talk to*.
Of course there's a minority of rude women out there, but I've found that if one approaches women with a bit of charm or respectfully, then one generally won't get told to f*ck off.

*have sex with

Scanlas The 2nd

Daveysil15 wrote: »

Scanlas The 2nd wrote: »

Why can't you leave with your pride in tact if someone was needlessly rude to you? They were rude not you.

As for being rejected, why should that hurt your pride, no man can get every woman.

Well its a lot easier to approach people if they're polite to you. If you're constantly been told to fcuk off and given the cold shoulder, it does tend to affect your confidence, and more than likely turn you off approaching anyone else. It's no wonder why a lot of men find it difficult approaching women.

Just remember you are doing nothing wrong, and stroll over to the next lucky woman. See the funny side of it and remember you are good enough as you are.

Sappa

If the question is about sex then yes women hold the power.
The nastiest filth bag of a woman could get laid every night of the week if she wanted to but fellas have it a lot harder trying to convince a woman to open her flaps on a night out.

R019912

PrincessLola wrote: »

Wah! Getting a woman to have sex with me requires effort,
therefore WIMMIN HAVE ALL TEH POWER, WE LIVE IN A MATRIARCHY.

I wonder if you realise how entitled you sound right now?

Seriously, no one owes you sex.

If you read the title of the thread, it quite clearly says "Do women have all the power?" My point was that for the most part they do. Never mentioned anything about being owed sex, so grow up.

The King of Moo

Sappa wrote: »

If the question is about sex then yes women hold the power.
The nastiest filth bag of a woman could get laid every night of the week if she wanted to but fellas have it a lot harder trying to convince a woman to open her flaps on a night out.

And you wonder why some men find it hard...

midlandsmissus

Sappa wrote: »

If the question is about sex then yes women hold the power.
The nastiest filth bag of a woman could get laid every night of the week if she wanted to but fellas have it a lot harder trying to convince a woman to open her flaps on a night out.

True eyeopener on some men in this thread.

We are not just there to have sex with!

We are human beings! You know the same as you! With brains and feelings. Stop talking about us like we are nothing else other than flaps/pussy/minge.

It's actually horrible!

Daveysil15

PrincessLola wrote: »

I'm trying to find a f*ck to give...

Can't find one. Not a single one

Need I say anymore?

Daveysil15

The King of Moo wrote: »

If someone is constantly being told to f*ck off, then there's a good chance the problem is with their approach, and not the woman they're trying to talk to*.
Of course there's a minority of rude women out there, but I've found that if one approaches women with a bit of charm or respectfully, then one generally won't get told to f*ck off.

*have sex with

Yes but from what I've been hearing, the guys are generally not been greeted with the same response with the foreign women. Same tactics, different clientele. They just seem to be more open to been approached by strangers. Irish tend to be a bit more defensive. Of course that's not to say all Irish are rude.

The King of Moo

Daveysil15 wrote: »

Yes but from what I've been hearing, the guys are generally not been greeted with the same response with the foreign women. Same tactics, different clientele. They just seem to be more open to been approached by strangers. Irish tend to be a bit more defensive. Of course that's not to say all Irish are rude.

I haven't noticed much of a difference between Irish women and women of other nationalities in terms of rudeness.

But it is conceivable to me that a slightly higher proportion of Irish women might not take being approached by men so well, given that the majority of times an Irish woman is chatted up, it's by a drunk man. Even if you turn on all the charm, the woman you're talking to me might well have had five or six guys clumsily try to chat her up already, and not be in the mood for it.

But if there is a difference in rudeness I don't think it's a big one, just going on my own experience interacting with women of different nationalities both socially and at work.

Daveysil15

The King of Moo wrote: »

I haven't noticed much of a difference between Irish women and women of other nationalities in terms of rudeness.

But it is conceivable to me that a slightly higher proportion of Irish women might not take being approached by men so well, given that the majority of times an Irish woman is chatted up, it's by a drunk man. Even if you turn on all the charm, the woman you're talking to me might well have had five or six guys clumsily try to chat her up already, and not be in the mood for it.

But if there is a difference in rudeness I don't think it's a big one, just going on my own experience interacting with women of different nationalities both socially and at work.

This bit I understand. There are plenty of drunk guys who slober over women grabbing their butt cheeks and what not. Obviously that gives her a reason to be defensive. However when it comes to approaching people outside of the pub/club scene then there's no excuse. Approaching a woman in Tesco's for example and asking for her number would be a bit weird for most people because its not the norm here. I actually met my ex, who was Polish, in Lidl of all places.

The King of Moo

Daveysil15 wrote: »

This bit I understand. There are plenty of drunk guys who slober over women grabbing their butt cheeks and what not. Obviously that gives her a reason to be defensive. However when it comes to approaching people outside of the pub/club scene then there's no excuse. Approaching a woman in Tesco's for example and asking for her number would be a bit weird for most people because its not the norm here. I actually met my ex, who was Polish, in Lidl of all places.

I think it depends how it's done. Most women I know, and lots of female posters on Boards, say they'd be ok with being chatted up on the street or in the supermarket if the guy did it with a bit of charm of confidence.
But like you say, it's not the norm in this country, so some women might get freaked out due to the surprise of it.

midlandsmissus

The King of Moo wrote: »

I think it depends how it's done. Most women I know, and lots of female posters on Boards, say they'd be ok with being chatted up on the street or in the supermarket if the guy did it with a bit of charm of confidence.
But like you say, it's not the norm in this country, so some women might get freaked out due to the surprise of it.

I think most women would prefer to be chatted up in a coffee shop/shop/library.

When a man comes up to you in a pub you immediately think: drunk man looking for sex, he will try it with anyone to get some-one into bed, leave me alone!

Daveysil15

midlandsmissus wrote: »

When a man comes up to you in a pub you immediately think: drunk man looking for sex, he will try it with anyone to get some-one into bed, leave me alone!

This is what I don't like. You immediately think. Give the guy a chance. I think this is why a lot of Irish men prefer talking to foreign women. When you flirt with them or show an interest, they don't question your motives. With the Irish there always seems to be a hidden agenda. You're always after something!

Varied

Jesus how do some women survive the day without getting groped by these horrible men.:rolleyes:

Sea Filly

Daveysil15 wrote: »

A key that can open many locks is a good key. A lock that can be opened by many keys is a bad lock.

Can't believe someone came out with this shíte on this thread, FFS.

midlandsmissus

Daveysil15 wrote: »

This is what I don't like. You immediately think. Give the guy a chance. I think this is why a lot of Irish men prefer talking to foreign women. When you flirt with them or show an interest, they don't question your motives. With the Irish there always seems to be a hidden agenda. You're always after something!

Maybe Irish men need to look what at they're doing too.

I could say Irish women prefer foreign men too, because in other countries I have been asked out in airports, coffee shops, general places, and I've always been polite and kind.

When I have a man coming up to me twisted in a pub, I really don't think anything other than 'he's looking for sex'. I don't want that, so I'm entitled to not have to waste my time on a night out.

Approach women not twisted in a pub and they will give you more time.

And also re: foreign women being more polite, maybe they don't know Irish men as well as we do! Or heard all the stories from male friends 'any hole's a goal', 'going out looking for any bird' etc, very laddish culture, any wonder we're unkind and suspicious on a night out? We are protecting ourselves!

hatrickpatrick

VEN wrote: »

no woman can get every man. i love ignoring them, it drives them loo laa. they think sex is power. what a laugh. power over weak men probably.

Subconsciously we always want what we can't have.
Of course, you can choose whether to use that trait as a fun tactic in playing "the game", or the mating dance as I described it earlier, and potentially get lucky... Or you can choose to be spiteful and bitter about it, and use it to prove some kind of point and piss off some girl.

Hey, it's your choice, whichever you'll get more enjoyment out of... :rolleyes:

Bambii_

I wish we had all the power :cool:

VEN

Daveysil15 wrote: »

Irish tend to be a bit more defensive. Of course that's not to say all Irish are rude.

and EE lads, of course not all possessive, clingy, fighting over them oh dear

VEN

midlandsmissus wrote: »

I think most women would prefer to be chatted up in a coffee shop/shop/library.

we'd only 'freak' you out besides why don't you chat me up instead, we're kind of tired of it now.