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Why do so many people reference Ireland as a nation?

  • 10-06-2012 6:54pm
    #1
    Downlinz
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,561 ✭✭✭


    Instead of a country?


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  • #2
    tdv123
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 2,292 ✭✭✭tdv123


    What? :confused:


  • #3
    biko
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 81,220 ✭✭✭✭biko


    Any sources or examples?


  • #4
    The King of Moo
    Registered Users Posts: 8,207 ✭✭✭The King of Moo


    Because in terms of common usage, the words are interchangeable.

    Also, even if one were strictly adhering to the dictionary definitions, Ireland can be described as both a country and a nation, as we have a majority of the population who share the same general culture (one meaning of the word "nation").

    But mostly it's because to most people, the words mean the same thing.


  • #5
    WIZE
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,597 ✭✭✭WIZE


    Common Ireland :-)


  • #6
    Mint Sauce
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,293 ✭✭✭✭Mint Sauce


    Bloody hell, not again, also explanes the whole of the UK and British Isles before anyone asks or brings it up.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rNu8XDBSn10


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  • #7
    Sunnyisland
    Closed Accounts Posts: 10,562 ✭✭✭✭Sunnyisland


    Downlinz wrote: »
    Instead of a country?


    As far as I know a nation means a large group of people are united by their common goals where as a country may have many people with different outlooks and goals,To be corrected :)


  • #8
    Feathers
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,082 ✭✭✭Feathers


    The King of Moo wrote: »
    Because in terms of common usage, the words are interchangeable.

    Also, even if one were strictly adhering to the dictionary definitions, Ireland can be described as both a country and a nation, as we have a majority of the population who share the same general culture (one meaning of the word "nation").

    But mostly it's because to most people, the words mean the same thing.

    IN that sense also, nation could be used to describe the whole of the island, including the North, whereas state/country would refer to the political entity of the Republic.


  • #9
    Jen Pigs Fly
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,770 ✭✭✭Jen Pigs Fly


    How did that gob****e get on the television :mad:


  • #10
    Princess Consuela Bananahammock
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 33,676 ✭✭✭✭Princess Consuela Bananahammock


    A country once again....
    A country once again....

    Deoesnt' really have the same ring to it, does it?

    Everything I don't like is either woke or fascist - possibly both - pick one.



  • #11
    Pandora2
    Closed Accounts Posts: 937 ✭✭✭Pandora2


    Ikky Poo2 wrote: »
    A country once again....
    A country once again....

    Deoesnt' really have the same ring to it, does it?

    You just beat me to it!! :D


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  • #12
    Downlinz
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,561 ✭✭✭Downlinz


    My understanding is a country is a place with a seat of governance, a nation is a place with commonality but not governance. i.e. the basque nation.


  • #13
    Chucken
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,459 ✭✭✭Chucken


    Pandora2 wrote: »
    You just beat me to it!! :D

    Go on..its in your head now! Sing along :)

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6dU8mGjrjJk


  • #14
    Mardy Bum
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,674 ✭✭✭Mardy Bum


    A nation? says Bloom. A nation is the same people living in the same place.
    —By God, then, says Ned, laughing, if that's so I'm a nation for I'm living in the same place for the past five years.

    For the week thats in it Joyce put forward the famous question "What is a nation" in "Cyclops".


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