Junkies

Foxhound38

Was walking through O'Connell Street last night (not late mind, around 8PM) and was hassled no less than 4 times in the space of as many minutes by the zombies - one of whom was so off his tits shuffling about the place I was seriously considering ringing an ambulance on him before he inched off into the Burger King where they can keep an eye.

To me, it's an annoyance but I'm about as used to it as anyone else at this stage. What really gets up my goat is when I see them hassling tourists, as I did last night. What sort of image does that send out about Ireland, at a time when we really need the tourism?

Is it just me, or has the problem gotten worse in the last 2 or so years - every city in the country just seems to be crawling with junkies and the gardai do nothing about it. What can be done about this? Obviously our current ways of managing the problem aren't working out...

mauzo

What is it with burger king?? There was 2 asleep on the table when I walked by a few days ago.....and this was all I could see from the street!

KKkitty

Junkies- great bunch of lads

Smidge

The problem has defo got worse over the last number of years.
Used to be that there were always the odd few scag heads rambling around, now the place is feckin crawling with them.

The King of Moo

You'd think they'd know better than to hassle tourists.
Do they not realise the image of Ireland they're sending out, and the damage to the economy through loss of tourist revenue their actions might cause?

Kylo Ren

You were looking for cheap oral sex weren't you OP!

Jester252

syndeyfife wrote: »

What is it with burger king?? There was 2 asleep on the table when I walked by a few days ago.....and this was all I could see from the street!

no one else would eat in it

Scioch

Start giving them bad heroin instead of change. They will soon stop hasslin ya.

policarp

Not far removed from the scumbags on junkets.IMO. . .

mauzo

Jester252 wrote: »

no one else would eat in it

Ive never said no to a whopper....

Foxhound38

Last time I was on the Red LUAS line, 2 of the boyos where shooting up down the back of it... at 4PM... with kids on the tram...

I always knew there was a heroin problem, but it just seems to be more pronounced of late...

Obviously the worst affected place for it is in Dublin, but I've noticed increases in Cork and Limerick too. What's the story here - why now?

mauzo

I lived in Cork for a few months in 2010, every day I walked through the city streets and holy moly the amount of junkies there compared to Dublin...

af_thefragile

Few days ago I came across these two junkies who were stopping and asking every person on the street for change. They also stopped this american looking couple for change and they refused. Then they headed off into Temple Bar crossing the road without waiting for the lights while the rest of us waited at the crossing for the pedestrian lights to go green. Then a soon I caught up with them in Temple Bar again as they were hassling more people to get some money. I stayed away from them and avoided them...

Then I came across this women near the quays with blood pouring from her face with two Garda talking to her, she too looked like she was off her face on heroin or meth or something and then was in a fight.


I really love Dublin!!

Awful_Bliss

A Portuguese friend of mine made a great point that O'Connell is the main drop off place for tourists coming into Dublin and one of the first images of Dublin they get is the scangers/junkies roaming up and down the street like lost causes. Thank God I haven't been hassled by any - they must read my mind and cop that I'm a brown belt in karate!

mauzo

Awful_Bliss wrote: »

A Portuguese friend of mine made a great point that O'Connell is the main drop off place for tourists coming into Dublin and one of the first images of Dublin they get is the scangers/junkies roaming up and down the street like lost causes. Thank God I haven't been hassled by any - they must read my mind and cop that I'm a brown belt in karate!

Either that or you look broke

big_heart_on

This is Ireland after all, so long as a problem can be ignored it will be, so nothing will happen until a tourist gets stabbed to death on O'Connell street.

af_thefragile

I guess looking like a broke student has its advantages as well...

sandmanporto

Foxhound38 wrote: »

Was walking through O'Connell Street last night (not late mind, around 8PM) and was hassled no less than 4 times in the space of as many minutes by the zombies - one of whom was so off his tits shuffling about the place I was seriously considering ringing an ambulance on him before he inched off into the Burger King where they can keep an eye.

To me, it's an annoyance but I'm about as used to it as anyone else at this stage. What really gets up my goat is when I see them hassling tourists, as I did last night. What sort of image does that send out about Ireland, at a time when we really need the tourism?

Is it just me, or has the problem gotten worse in the last 2 or so years - every city in the country just seems to be crawling with junkies and the gardai do nothing about it. What can be done about this? Obviously our current ways of managing the problem aren't working out...

Well why do people turn to drugs? And why do people sell drugs? Why does a country let people ruin the streets because of their citizens dependence on drugs? What do you or anybody else reading do to ease the situation?

Smidge

syndeyfife wrote: »

Ive never said no to a whopper....

Bah dum bum bum
Thank you folks I'm here all week

mauzo

mishkalucy wrote: »

Bah dum bum bum
Thank you folks I'm here all week

Took longer than I thought:D

Foxhound38

sandmanporto wrote: »

Well why do people turn to drugs? And why do people sell drugs? Why does a country let people ruin the streets because of their citizens dependence on drugs? What do you or anybody else reading do to ease the situation?

Even if the gardai could keep them coralled off the main streets and tourist sectors it would be a start. We don't have the luxery of allowing tourists to go home with a bad impression of our country anymore if we can help it at all, especially not if it's to appease the zombies on their quest to hassle people...

face1990

Desperate times call for desperate measures. Perhaps we could round them all up and put them in camps?

Seriously though, why not turn somewhere like spike island into a big rehab centre where people are kept away from drugs for a good while, taught some skills and released when deemed appropriate? Methadone doesn't seem to do much good, neither does leaving addicts to roam the streets where they're surrounded by drugs even if they wanted to stop taking them.

southcentralts

And would you have them shuffled off to a more isolated area, with less (witnesses) tourists, to hassle other people, who are out there working to rebuild this country by doing their jobs?

Smidge

syndeyfife wrote: »

Took longer than I thought:D

Sorry, I was waiting on a bus :P

mickrock

Those junkies are right characters.

They're part of our culture and the tourists love them.

Foxhound38

face1990 wrote: »

Desperate times call for desperate measures. Perhaps we could round them all up and put them in camps?

Seriously though, why not turn somewhere like spike island into a big rehab centre where people are kept away from drugs for a good while, taught some skills and released when deemed appropriate? Methadone doesn't seem to do much good, neither does leaving addicts to roam the streets where they're surrounded by drugs even if they wanted to stop taking them.

Methodone has turned into a black market of its own, and has fuelled a surge in Benzo abuse. Heroin truly was a curse unleashed on this country...

sandmanporto

Foxhound38 wrote: »

Even if the gardai could keep them coralled off the main streets and tourist sectors it would be a start. We don't have the luxery of allowing tourists to go home with a bad impression of our country anymore if we can help it at all, especially not if it's to appease the zombies on their quest to hassle people...

You think Ireland relies on tourism? Dublin people are arrogant enough to think they are more Irish than the so called culchies! You find more junkies scangers in Dublin begging than any other place. The Pale population fail to realise that Cork and Kerry are more Irish and more Irish than the PALE! You don't see many heroin addicts begging in Kinsale or Clonakilty do you?
Gotta edit this.... People abroad are so biased as to think Dublin is the real Ireland. Dublin is the most British, metropolitan part of Ireland anybody could visit. Real Ireland is outside of Dublin. And a lot of dublin people have surnames not common in Ireland. So Don't use tourism as an excuse.

AdventRises

Foxhound38 wrote: »

Was walking through O'Connell Street last night (not late mind, around 8PM) and was hassled no less than 4 times in the space of as many minutes by the zombies - one of whom was so off his tits shuffling about the place I was seriously considering ringing an ambulance on him before he inched off into the Burger King where they can keep an eye.

To me, it's an annoyance but I'm about as used to it as anyone else at this stage. What really gets up my goat is when I see them hassling tourists, as I did last night. What sort of image does that send out about Ireland, at a time when we really need the tourism?

Is it just me, or has the problem gotten worse in the last 2 or so years - every city in the country just seems to be crawling with junkies and the gardai do nothing about it. What can be done about this? Obviously our current ways of managing the problem aren't working out...

Allow me to translate the OPs post:

- I didnt give a f**k about the junkie.
- I am glad he went into burger king leaving me the f**k alone.
- I actually dont care about junkies bothering tourists. As the money isnt going to my pocket.
- why arent the gardai doing something about this? my taxes, my taxes, my taxes.
- I just dont want to be bothered by junkies.

I agree on the last bit op I dont want to be bothered by junkies. However, I wouldnt of added the BS.

wilkie2006

Foxhound38 wrote: »

I always knew there was a heroin problem, but it just seems to be more pronounced of late...

Obviously the worst affected place for it is in Dublin, but I've noticed increases in Cork and Limerick too. What's the story here - why now?

I'm not sure if you're being serious or not?

The recession has led to a huge amount of homelessness, which has in turn led to this. Yes, there's more to it than that but that's your broad answer.

wilmer mclean

sandmanporto wrote: »

You think Ireland relies on tourism? Dublin people are arrogant enough to think they are more Irish than the so called culchies! You find more junkies scangers in Dublin begging than any other place. The Pale population fail to realise that Cork and Kerry are more Irish and more Irish than the PALE! You don't see many heroin addicts begging in Kinsale or Clonakilty do you?

How can one place in Ireland be more or less Irish then another. How is being a junkie not Irish? How is being a junkie defined by any nationality?

face1990

Foxhound38 wrote: »

Methodone has turned into a black market of its own, and has fuelled a surge in Benzo abuse. Heroin truly was a curse unleashed on this country...

As far as I can tell, a lot of addicts will never successfully beat their addiction as long as they have access to the drug. Methadone becomes a crutch, or just a replacement for heroin. So heroin addicts are left having to beat the addiction by will-power alone. It's no wonder they stay on it.

Prisons have a plentiful supply of drugs too.
Is there anywhere addicts can go where they will be held, for a minimum period (and even against their will in my opinion. An addict may voluntarily enter rehab but not voluntarily stay once the withdrawals get bad enough) in a place where drugs are actually kept away from them?

sandmanporto wrote: »

You find more junkies scangers in Dublin begging than any other place. The Pale population fail to realise that Cork and Kerry are more Irish and more Irish than the PALE!

More addicts in Dublin is largely down to the larger population and greater availability of drugs.
As for being 'more Irish', I have no idea what you're on about or how it's in any way relevant to the issue being discussed.

Foxhound38

sandmanporto wrote: »

You think Ireland relies on tourism? Dublin people are arrogant enough to think they are more Irish than the so called culchies! You find more junkies scangers in Dublin begging than any other place. The Pale population fail to realise that Cork and Kerry are more Irish and more Irish than the PALE! You don't see many heroin addicts begging in Kinsale or Clonakilty do you?
Gotta edit this.... People abroad are so biased as to think Dublin is the real Ireland. Dublin is the most British, metropolitan part of Ireland anybody could visit. Real Ireland is outside of Dublin. And a lot of dublin people have surnames not common in Ireland. So Don't use tourism as an excuse.

What in the name of god are you talking about? Dublin is in Ireland, therefore Dubs are Irish. What has that even got to do with anything in this thread? If Kinsale or Clonakilty don't have a junkie problem, then fair play to them - Cork city on the other hand is crawling with them, as is Dublin, as are many of the other major cities. Tourists go to these major cities, and are hassle-targets for idiot junkies. Them going back home and telling their friends "Ireland is a lovely country, but it seems to have a bad drug problem" is not the report we want or need going back to other potential tourists. Simples...

Foxhound38

AdventRises wrote: »

Allow me to translate the OPs post:

- I didnt give a f**k about the junkie.
- I am glad he went into burger king leaving me the f**k alone.
- I actually dont care about junkies bothering tourists. As the money isnt going to my pocket.
- why arent the gardai doing something about this? my taxes, my taxes, my taxes.
- I just dont want to be bothered by junkies.

I agree on the last bit op I dont want to be bothered by junkies. However, I wouldnt of added the BS.

I actually do care about junkies bothering tourists - they come here to spend money, which we need as the place is in a state of chasis. We need them telling their friends back home about how pleasant the place is (as they might decide to follow suit and come see for themselves, spending more money here in the process), not about how much of a drug problem we have here.

Smidge

sandmanporto wrote: »

You think Ireland relies on tourism? Dublin people are arrogant enough to think they are more Irish than the so called culchies! You find more junkies scangers in Dublin begging than any other place. The Pale population fail to realise that Cork and Kerry are more Irish and more Irish than the PALE! You don't see many heroin addicts begging in Kinsale or Clonakilty do you?
Gotta edit this.... People abroad are so biased as to think Dublin is the real Ireland. Dublin is the most British, metropolitan part of Ireland anybody could visit. Real Ireland is outside of Dublin. And a lot of dublin people have surnames not common in Ireland. So Don't use tourism as an excuse.

You mean to say there are actually people LIVING THERE? :eek:

carbon nanotube

Foxhound38 wrote: »

Was walking through O'Connell Street last night (not late mind, around 8PM) and was hassled no less than 4 times in the space of as many minutes by the zombies - one of whom was so off his tits shuffling about the place I was seriously considering ringing an ambulance on him before he inched off into the Burger King where they can keep an eye.

To me, it's an annoyance but I'm about as used to it as anyone else at this stage. What really gets up my goat is when I see them hassling tourists, as I did last night. What sort of image does that send out about Ireland, at a time when we really need the tourism?

Is it just me, or has the problem gotten worse in the last 2 or so years - every city in the country just seems to be crawling with junkies and the gardai do nothing about it. What can be done about this? Obviously our current ways of managing the problem aren't working out...

ahh Dublin. skange and junkie capital.

sandmanporto

wilmer mclean wrote: »

How can one place in Ireland be more or less Irish then another. How is being a junkie not Irish? How is being a junkie defined by any nationality?

Let me put it this way :
I am from Wexford and Dub have always called me a culchie! They look down on native Wexfordians and have invaded North Wexford! Dubs and Liverpoolians have something in common: THE ACCENT! DUBS AND OUTSIDE THE PALE HAVE ONE THING IN COMMON : THEY ARE ON THE SAME ISLAND!
Dubs think they are more Irish than the rest of the island because they are the capital but they are not more Irish!
Americans come to Ireland thinking Dublin is the most Irish part and all they see is the sad displays Dublin has to offer while on some sad tour organised by American tour companies.
If you want the real Ireland go to all 4 provinces! You can get a real taste then.. Dublin is not Ireland, it's just the administrative capital!

AdventRises

Foxhound38 wrote: »

I actually do care about junkies bothering tourists - they come here to spend money, which we need as the place is in a state of chasis. We need them telling their friends back home about how pleasant the place is (as they might decide to follow suit and come see for themselves, spending more money here in the process), not about how much of a drug problem we have here.

Its funny :pac:
The only aspect of my post you had an issue with was the tourism bit.
But yet you stated "one of whom was so off his tits shuffling about the place I was seriously considering ringing an ambulance on him before he inched off into the Burger King where they can keep an eye." :pac:

.... of course after I said you didnt care about the junkie as long as he left you alone (rightfully so) but you say the above in response lol.

ahnowbrowncow

How about euthanasia*? Pretend it's some heroin you're giving them and BAM, in goes some potassium chloride...



*definitely not murder

sandmanporto

mishkalucy wrote: »

You mean to say there are actually people LIVING THERE? :eek:

Well if you had any pride in the beauty of your country you wouldn't criticize it so quickly...
Do you think Australians living in the middle of the continent would criticize their area as quickly as you!

policarp

As far as I'm concerned alcohol has as bad an effect.
Every weekend night, after any function or event, there
are aggressive youths intimidating anyone who happens
to be in the wrong place at the wrong time. . .

hungrypig

sandmanporto wrote: »

Let me put it this way :
I am from Wexford and Dub have always called me a culchie! They look down on native Wexfordians and have invaded North Wexford! Dubs and Liverpoolians have something in common: THE ACCENT! DUBS AND OUTSIDE THE PALE HAVE ONE THING IN COMMON : THEY ARE ON THE SAME ISLAND!
Dubs think they are more Irish than the rest of the island because they are the capital but they are not more Irish!
Americans come to Ireland thinking Dublin is the most Irish part and all they see is the sad displays Dublin has to offer while on some sad tour organised by American tour companies.
If you want the real Ireland go to all 4 provinces! You can get a real taste then.. Dublin is not Ireland, it's just the administrative capital!

are you sure you're not on drugs yourself ?

Foxhound38

sandmanporto wrote: »

Let me put it this way :
I am from Wexford and Dub have always called me a culchie! They look down on native Wexfordians and have invaded North Wexford! Dubs and Liverpoolians have something in common: THE ACCENT! DUBS AND OUTSIDE THE PALE HAVE ONE THING IN COMMON : THEY ARE ON THE SAME ISLAND!
Dubs think they are more Irish than the rest of the island because they are the capital but they are not more Irish!
Americans come to Ireland thinking Dublin is the most Irish part and all they see is the sad displays Dublin has to offer while on some sad tour organised by American tour companies.
If you want the real Ireland go to all 4 provinces! You can get a real taste then.. Dublin is not Ireland, it's just the administrative capital!

Drink plenty of water before you go to pass out, and it'll take the edge off the sore head in the morning...

Smidge

sandmanporto wrote: »

Well if you had any pride in the beauty of your country you wouldn't criticize it so quickly...
Do you think Australians living in the middle of the continent would criticize their area as quickly as you!

I do love Ireland but jeezzz......

Clonakilty?????????????

Every time I think about places like THAT all I hear are banjo's.

sandmanporto

Foxhound38 wrote: »

Drink plenty of water before you go to pass out, and it'll take the edge off the sore head in the morning...

Obviously you know what you are talking about..

You drunk much?

Foxhound38

AdventRises wrote: »

Its funny :pac:
The only aspect of my post you had an issue with was the tourism bit.
But yet you stated "one of whom was so off his tits shuffling about the place I was seriously considering ringing an ambulance on him before he inched off into the Burger King where they can keep an eye." :pac:

.... of course after I said you didnt care about the junkie as long as he left you alone (rightfully so) but you say the above in response lol.

Absolutely correct - he looked in a bad way but I readily admit he wasn't my problem nor did I particularly want to make him so. Swaying around the street barely able to talk - the idea of ringing the ambulance crossed my mind the same as it would if I saw anyone in a bad way. He went into burger king, where others could keep an eye on him if he collapsed or whatever, and ceased to be my concern if he ever was - I don't make apologies for that...

Not sure what exact point you are trying to make, or why my actions are important enough to you to have a go at me. Perhaps you are looking for an argument? *shrug*

Foxhound38

sandmanporto wrote: »

Obviously you know what you are talking about..

You drunk much?

I'm talking about the thread topic... you appear to want to talk about something completely different (how Dubs aren't really Irish or some similar nonsense)...

whistlingtitan

face1990 wrote: »

Desperate times call for desperate measures. Perhaps we could round them all up and put them in camps?

Seriously though, why not turn somewhere like spike island into a big rehab centre where people are kept away from drugs for a good while, taught some skills and released when deemed appropriate? Methadone doesn't seem to do much good, neither does leaving addicts to roam the streets where they're surrounded by drugs even if they wanted to stop taking them.

For one very good reason… we are soooooo pc it's madding it has become unreal idiots fools criminals junkies thugs have no fear or care and I'd you try to do anything or say anything the pc bridge are up in arms
This country needs a leader with a set of Mega balls to stand up to all these pc and anti groups ( who by the way get grants) and tell them where to go
Lock down the ffing prisons to stop drugs getting in and clean up our streets from all the scum without all this namby bamby bs

face1990

whistlingtitan wrote: »

For one very good reason… we are soooooo pc it's madding it has become unreal idiots fools criminals junkies thugs have no fear or care and I'd you try to do anything or say anything the pc bridge are up in arms
This country needs a leader with a set of Mega balls to stand up to all these pc and anti groups ( who by the way get grants) and tell them where to go
Lock down the ffing prisons to stop drugs getting in and clean up our streets from all the scum without all this namby bamby bs

I agree completely. A harder line needs to be taken with this issue, and a number of others too. I'm all for people's rights and freedoms, but not when it's infringing on other people's.
If you choose to engage in illegal activities then you should expect to forfeit some of your rights as a result, so long as the ultimate goal is get criminals and addicts rehabilitated so they can then contribute to society in a positive way.

Clitlady

People here seem to forget that junkies are real people with real souls too you know?

Smidge

Clitlady wrote: »

People here seem to forget that junkies are real people with real souls too you know?

They leave their soul at the door when they rob and torment the living life out of people

Clitlady

mishkalucy wrote: »

They leave their soul at the door when they rob and torment the living life out of people

It is what this FG government and society in general has reduced them too, should we make them pay the rest of their lives on account of one mistake(starting heroin?)