Rim fire pistol

black powder colt

just woundering is it difficult to get anything not on the famous list.i would like a revolver but the choice seems limited to 1 and i dont like it.anyone have any luck getting something different

Witcher

All depends on your super:)

MacsuibhneR

I know some people had trouble with 5
Shot revolvers.
I got a licence for a walther p22
Without too much trouble as said above it depends on your super

rowa

black powder colt wrote: »

just woundering is it difficult to get anything not on the famous list.i would like a revolver but the choice seems limited to 1 and i dont like it.anyone have any luck getting something different

If your super is a reasonable person and you can meet them and make a case for the revolver you have chosen you might get lucky. I have a webley revolver that took over a year of meetings with firearms officers and two different supers (one retired) to finally get the licence.
The list is not definitive , if the barrel length is over 4.5 inches and the cylinder capacity is limited to 5 rounds you should be able to licence it.
The problem is most supers don't know anything about firearms at all and they are suspicious of anything not on the list.
P.s there are actually two revolvers on the list , the taurus 94 is a revolver.

tac foley

Rowa - ain't that the sad and sorry truth? That's why a staff of specialist firearms officers - one per police district or whatever you call it - is needed to advise each of your AGS superintendents. That way the GS could concentrate on keeping law and order, and people who knew what they were talking about could do the 'gunny' bits.

You only have 26 counties to contend with, not the 50+ that are over here, and, as I was reminded the other day, most of the licences are for shotguns, with only around 5000 or so stalkers/vermin shooters. Target rifle shooters are even thinner on the ground.

At least you can still have some modern-type cartridge-firing handguns...

tac

BattleCorp

Hi OP,

One guy in my club that I know got a licence for a .22 revolver not on the list a few months ago, and he had no hassle whatsoever from his Super.

Unfortunately, it does depend on what area you are in and if the Super will go "off list" or not.

If you draft a letter to go with your FAC1 application stating why you want that particular revolver and why the other revolvers on the list don't suit you (bad fit , too awkward, wrong feel etc etc), then you stand a fair chance of getting it. Maybe you could even try and meet the Super in advance to spell out your case for that particular revolver.

Don't forget to mention too that you are going to get one of the chambers plugged etc. You will have to get one of the chambers plugged to comply with the stupid 5 shot rule.

rowa

Well there is a firearms policy unit in head quarters , it was set up for clarification for both shooters and police , but most of the police prefer to ring the ballistics dept for some bizarre reason.
I hear there are moves afoot to make shotguns section 1 in the uk after the derek bird shootings in cumbria.

BattleCorp

rowa wrote: »

Well there is a firearms policy unit in head quarters , it was set up for clarification for both shooters and police , but most of the police prefer to ring the ballistics dept for some bizarre reason.
I hear there are moves afoot to make shotguns section 1 in the uk after the derek bird shootings in cumbria.

Derailing the thread but how would anyone have faith in a firearms policy unit who set the number of rounds a pistol or revolver can hold at 5 when the course of fire in the two most popular .22 pistol competitions have 6 round courses of fire (multi-target and T&P).

Apologies if I'm blaming them in the wrong as I'm making the assumption that the firearms policy unit were consulted when the legislation was being drafted.

black powder colt

at least their is some good news out there. i had this crazy idea i could get one of thoses russian nagants converted to .22 i shot one while in the us the guy got a gunsmith to convert it.had a nice feel to it and shot quite well i wish i asked him how much it cost him. it would be an intresting peice .or failing that id like a smith and wesson model 17.

Mr.Flibble

BattleCorp wrote: »

Derailing the thread but how would anyone have faith in a firearms policy unit who set the number of rounds a pistol or revolver can hold at 5 when the course of fire in the two most popular .22 pistol competitions have 6 round courses of fire (multi-target and T&P).

Apologies if I'm blaming them in the wrong as I'm making the assumption that the firearms policy unit were consulted when the legislation was being drafted.

The mistake you're making is assuming they would be trying to make pistol shooting "popular". They weren't. Rather the opposite.

In any case typical magazine-fed pistols can hold 6 rounds; it's the magazine capacity that's limited, not the overall capacity of the gun.

BattleCorp

Mr.Flibble wrote: »

The mistake you're making is assuming they would be trying to make pistol shooting "popular". They weren't. Rather the opposite.

In any case typical magazine-fed pistols can hold 6 rounds; it's the magazine capacity that's limited, not the overall capacity of the gun.

It's more difficult with a 5 shot magazine to do the T&P1 than it is with a 6 shot magazine.

One of the practices is 12 shots from 15 metres and you have 2 seconds to get your shot off with a pause of 5 seconds between shots.

If you chamber one round and then put in your 5 shot magazine before you start you get 6 shots, but what happens when you put your next mag with 5 rounds into the firearm. You can't have a round chambered for the second string in advance so you are under pressure to get all 12 shots off. Easy to get 11 shots off but you might be stretched to get the 12th shot off.

You are at a disadvantage compared to somebody not limited by the 5 shot law (eg. a restricted firearm).

clivej

BattleCorp wrote: »

It's more difficult with a 5 shot magazine to do the T&P1 than it is with a 6 shot magazine.

One of the practices is 12 shots from 15 metres and you have 2 seconds to get your shot off with a pause of 5 seconds between shots.

If you chamber one round and then put in your 5 shot magazine before you start you get 6 shots, but what happens when you put your next mag with 5 rounds into the firearm. You can't have a round chambered for the second string in advance so you are under pressure to get all 12 shots off. Easy to get 11 shots off but you might be stretched to get the 12th shot off.

You are at a disadvantage compared to somebody not limited by the 5 shot law (eg. a restricted firearm).

Not quite true as you will always be given time to load the 6 rounds between details, i.e your 1 + 5 in the mag. The command is 'With a futher 6 rounds load and make ready' it would be up you you to call the 'Not ready' before the 'Stand by' is called.

BattleCorp

clivej wrote: »

Not quite true as you will always be given time to load the 6 rounds between details, i.e your 1 + 5 in the mag. The command is 'With a futher 6 rounds load and make ready' it would be up you you to call the 'Not ready' before the 'Stand by' is called.

Fair enough, point taken. Thanks Clive.