Mens Rights Thread

iptba

BBFAN wrote: »

I thought this thread was about mens rights? All that seems to be in here is articles or tweets about women?

"Positive discrimination" in favour of women very often means discrimination against men so can be relevant.

drunkmonkey

At least Trump got one back for the team today with Horseface, bet the #believeher gang won't be too happy about their go fund me donations being used to pay Trumps legal bill.

iptba

BAI upholds in part complaint against 2FM Eoghan McDermott Show for asking Dee Forbes who she would like to kick in testicles

A complaint against the Eoghan McDermott Show on 2FM has been upheld in part by the Broadcasting Authority of Ireland.

A listener complained about a segment featured on McDermott’s afternoon entertainment show on March 8, 2018 in which the presenter asked the Director General of RTE, Dee Forbes, who she would like to kick in the testicles.

According to the BAI, the listener found the comment “offensive and discriminatory towards men and was of the view that it promoted violence against men” and he felt that it was “insensitive and unjustified”.

https://www.independent.ie/entertainment/radio/bai-upholds-in-part-complaint-against-2fm-eoghan-mcdermott-show-for-asking-dee-forbes-who-she-would-like-to-kick-in-testicles-37425936.html

drunkmonkey

We need to make it an offence to be offended.

iptba

Here's the latest batch of gender-related hashtags I have noticed trending for anyone interested (I know some are not)
(Aside: I'm not on Twitter 24/7 of course and don't look back at lists for when I wasn't on)

#ShowYourStripes
A lot if not most of the messages relating to this related to the #20x20 campaign
A call to action for Irish Society. Play your part in increasing every part of Women in Sport by 20% participation, attendance, coverage, governance, sponsorship. #showyourstripes #cantseecantbe #20x20
https://twitter.com/CoghlanFiona/status/1051744507614629888
https://twitter.com/SportsJOEdotie/status/1051734102502719488
https://twitter.com/leona_maguire/status/1051739731766247424

#MadamPolitician
https://twitter.com/lisa_pereira/status/1052265998492082177

Not sure if it trended, but I came across an article on this in the Irish Examiner
National Women’s Enterprise Day, which aims to help women in business to take their ideas global
https://www.irishexaminer.com/breakingnews/lifestyle/features/womens-enterprise-day-go-forth-and-be-successful-876477.html

#WearItPink
Breast Cancer Now
@breastcancernow ‏
We're the UK's largest breast cancer charity - and through our research we believe that, by 2050, everyone who develops breast cancer will live.

#WOTYA18
Women of the year awards
https://twitter.com/irishtatler/status/1053732211982245894

Calhoun

Imagine your sport and how you play it is so **** you have to get a national program going to try and increase the viewership.

Spending all this time on the PR trying to push this and then they have the likes of Cora Staunton who seems to be the flavor of the month constantly in the indo. Especially after the crap up in Mayo and how when it suited her and the girls that walked out with her they tried to character assassinate the manager.

Eric Cartman

There are some big tech companies now giving women engineers and sales staff free management / project lead training in the background so when a promotion comes up , they're automatically the best candidate above any man who may have paid for similar on their own. Diversity by force it seems.

Calhoun

Eric Cartman wrote: »

There are some big tech companies now giving women engineers and sales staff free management / project lead training in the background so when a promotion comes up , they're automatically the best candidate above any man who may have paid for similar on their own. Diversity by force it seems.

So what, if women are so weak they need the extra help then let them have it. Most men should know that the world is a harsh place that will kick you and keep you down.

The only person you can trust to look after your business is yourself.

givyjoe

Calhoun wrote: »

So what, if women are so weak they need the extra help then let them have it. Most men should know that the world is a harsh place that will kick you and keep you down.

The only person you can trust to look after your business is yourself.

Shouldn't that logic/advice be given to women instead of this tokenism/discrimination.

Calhoun

givyjoe wrote: »

Shouldn't that logic/advice be given to women instead of this tokenism/discrimination.

Yah but you know that's like pissing in the wind.

silverharp

No link but caught a piece on the UK news about a council strike because of gender “equal pay”, so here is me thinking I thought it was illegal for there not to be equal pay. So it turns out they are comparing Bin”men” to cleaners where bin”men” get a couple of quid more per hour and they want this equalised
Relative to the Tesco situation , there would seem to be imo more of a disparity between the 2 jobs here, one is primarily an indoor job while the other is an outdoor job, or even with equipment one involves moving about heavy loads, dealing with traffic and other hazards etc. I’d expect the outdoor job to pay a premium.

Im not sure if the unions even believe their arguments and are just using “equality” to extract more cash which is a no lose situation for them. However in the broader context if every gender oriented job was treated this way then it would mean a devaluing of hard work that only men apparently want to do? It could ironically also mean that more men in this case will go after council cleaning jobs. So what next? childcare workers should be paid the same as prison officers?

Maxpfizer

silverharp wrote: »

No link but caught a piece on the UK news about a council strike because of gender “equal pay”, so here is me thinking I thought it was illegal for there not to be equal pay. So it turns out they are comparing Bin”men” to cleaners where bin”men” get a couple of quid more per hour and they want this equalised
Relative to the Tesco situation , there would seem to be imo more of a disparity between the 2 jobs here, one is primarily an indoor job while the other is an outdoor job, or even with equipment one involves moving about heavy loads, dealing with traffic and other hazards etc. I’d expect the outdoor job to pay a premium.

Im not sure if the unions even believe their arguments and are just using “equality” to extract more cash which is a no lose situation for them. However in the broader context if every gender oriented job was treated this way then it would mean a devaluing of hard work that only men apparently want to do? It could ironically also mean that more men in this case will go after council cleaning jobs. So what next? childcare workers should be paid the same as prison officers?

Saw this during the week as well (maybe Tuesday evening) and they had an interview with one of the organizers.

The interviewer actually asked her about the point that they are comparing different jobs so they were comparing things like a care worker to a janitor etc. Basically, jobs traditionally done by women vs jobs traditionally done by men.

Her answer was that they want "equal pay for work of equal value".

Of course it makes sense that this HAS to be their answer. One of the biggest issues with the "pay gap" is that they don't compare like for like.

So if you work for the council in their IT department then the "value" of your work needs to be compared to a primary school teacher and the pay needs to be adjusted accordingly.

I just don't get how they intend to establish the "value" of the work.

In the case of Tesco, for example, would the people working in the warehouse not rather work on the check out if it's going to be the same money? Surely the additional 2 or 3 pounds an hour works like an incentive to encourage people to go for the more difficult job?

It could be interesting going forward if you have a situation where nobody wants to do the more dangerous or stressful or physical jobs because you can be paid the same to sit in an office or at a check out.

I guess at least this is their new line of attack. Sure, the jobs are objectively different but the subjective "value" of the work is the same, according to us, so we should all be paid the same.

I understand the desire to erase gender roles from society but I don't think anyone is stopping to consider whether or not those gender roles might be good or beneficial for society.

Didn't it used to be the case that traditionally a family of mother, father and 2 to 3 children could get by on the income of just the father?

So now our society is "progressing" in such a way that now both parents need to hold down full time jobs to survive.

Is the plan for the future to devalue the work done by the father to the extent that the mother needs to be the main "breadwinner" to sustain a parents and 2 to 3 kids family?

Hector Savage

More of this "positive discrimination" PC bull****

https://www.bbc.com/news/av/technology-45987987/linda-liukas-hello-ruby-and-the-magic-of-coding

So just for girls.

Christ, can you imagine if it were reversed ...

gizmo555

Hector Savage wrote: »

More of this "positive discrimination" PC bull****

https://www.bbc.com/news/av/technology-45987987/linda-liukas-hello-ruby-and-the-magic-of-coding

So just for girls.

Christ, can you imagine if it were reversed ...

As a male IT professional, I think its good. It's not discriminating against boys, its encouraging more girls to consider the profession, which has a shortage of people generally. So this is not creating opportunities for girls by taking them from boys. She has set up a group for girls, but on the video you can also clearly see boys participating in her other activities.

Calhoun

gizmo555 wrote: »

As a male IT professional, I think its good. It's not discriminating against boys, its encouraging more girls to consider the profession, which has a shortage of people generally. So this is not creating opportunities for girls by taking them from boys. She has set up a group for girls, but on the video you can also clearly see boys participating in her other activities.

Let's setup something and promote it for all? Or is that crazy talk.

No one is saying women are taking opportunity for boys but it's just another constant drone about getting the women into stem.

gizmo555

Calhoun wrote: »

Let's setup something and promote it for all? Or is that crazy talk.

No one is saying women are taking opportunity for boys but it's just another constant drone about getting the women into stem.

Society needs more people in STEM. Encouraging more women to get into STEM professions is good for us all and does not discriminate against men, who on average are far more interested in STEM anyway. The person in this video is a woman who wants to personally highlight to girls that they can be coders too. Nothing wrong with that and fair play to her.

This is entirely different to, say, the gender quotas for Irish political parties' candidates.

silverharp

gizmo555 wrote: »

Society needs more people in STEM. Encouraging more women to get into STEM professions is good for us all and does not discriminate against men, who on average are far more interested in STEM anyway. The person in this video is a woman who want's to highlight to girls that they can be coders too. Nothing wrong with that and fair play to her.

This is entirely different to, say, the gender quotas for Irish political parties' candidates.

does everything have to be gender though, why not class and family background?

listermint

Eric Cartman wrote: »

There are some big tech companies now giving women engineers and sales staff free management / project lead training in the background so when a promotion comes up , they're automatically the best candidate above any man who may have paid for similar on their own. Diversity by force it seems.

thats unusual, because we got that in our place but everyone did it. Sure there were women there but there was also men.

As a confident self sufficient man I see zero issues with promoting more women into management positions.

Why would i ? Its been traditionally men there by attrition and networking historically.

gizmo555

silverharp wrote: »

does everything have to be gender though, why not class and family background?

Why not indeed. If you want to personally encourage more people into STEM based on their class and family background, go for it. But I see no reason to criticise this woman for what she personally chose to do to encourage girls (and boys!) to try coding. On the contrary.

silverharp

gizmo555 wrote: »

Why not indeed. If you want to personally encourage more people into STEM based on their class and family background, go for it. But I see no reason to criticise this woman for what she personally chose to do to encourage girls (and boys!) to try coding. On the contrary.

I don't see that anyone is criticising her personally as such , but we live in a megaphone culture and "women in x" is all one tends to hear about via the media. If one has the IQ to be in STEM, chances are they are there anyway or something else equally challenging, does it really matter if a particular girl becomes a dentist or works in IT? there are probably complicated reasons why people tend to congregate around different professions.

Calhoun

gizmo555 wrote: »

Society needs more people in STEM. Encouraging more women to get into STEM professions is good for us all and does not discriminate against men, who on average are far more interested in STEM anyway. The person in this video is a woman who wants to personally highlight to girls that they can be coders too. Nothing wrong with that and fair play to her.

This is entirely different to, say, the gender quotas for Irish political parties' candidates.

So would you be in favor of gender quotas in IT organizations? Is that the next step in this line of thinking?

I suppose my thinking on this is probably a bit skewed do to the current Irish media presence we are seeing allot of the girls being pushed to the front which is all well and good but some balance at times would be great.

Saw a coder dojo article in papers a few days ago and was mainly focused on girls there.

gizmo555

Calhoun wrote: »

So would you be in favor of gender quotas in IT organizations? Is that the next step in this line of thinking?

No, I would not be. I am in favour of encouraging more girls to have a go at STEM. I'd be equally in favour of, say, encouraging more men to be primary school teachers. But encouragement doesn't have to and shouldn't include quotas.

Hector Savage

gizmo555 wrote: »

Society needs more people in STEM. Encouraging more women to get into STEM professions is good for us all and does not discriminate against men, who on average are far more interested in STEM anyway. The person in this video is a woman who wants to personally highlight to girls that they can be coders too. Nothing wrong with that and fair play to her.

This is entirely different to, say, the gender quotas for Irish political parties' candidates.

I agree with you, but you have to take general differences in gender (yes they exist) into account.
As a population you will always get more boys into STEM than girls - not saying boys that do it are better than the girls that do!! - just saying there will by and large be more.

So lets imagine Google is hiring 2 new engineers (im simplifying the numbers here)

Due to sheer stats we will most likely have more men apply for the job.
So again, lets simplify lets imagine we have 80 men and 20 women.

Now Google have to hire at least 50% women here, so 1 woman 1 man at least.

Now if the 2 best people are a man and a woman or 2 women ... great no problem the best people got the job - but lets say the two best are 2 men which wouldn't be too far fetched as most applicants are men.

That 2nd best guy loses his spot to someone who wasn't as good.


The best people should get the jobs - full stop.
Black, brown, gay, straight, purple, cross dresser .. whatever.

Irony is feminists want equality and that type of **** above isn't equality.

gizmo555

What you're describing there is quotas, which I've already said I disagree with.

Triceratops Ballet

Hector Savage wrote: »

Irony is feminists want equality and that type of **** above isn't equality.

There are plenty of feminists who disapprove of quotas btw

professore

gizmo555 wrote: »

Society needs more people in STEM. Encouraging more women to get into STEM professions is good for us all and does not discriminate against men, who on average are far more interested in STEM anyway. The person in this video is a woman who wants to personally highlight to girls that they can be coders too. Nothing wrong with that and fair play to her.

This is entirely different to, say, the gender quotas for Irish political parties' candidates.

Society also needs more nurses, in fact there is a chronic shortage. Why is there no similar programme to get men into nursing?

professore

Calhoun wrote: »

So would you be in favor of gender quotas in IT organizations? Is that the next step in this line of thinking?

I suppose my thinking on this is probably a bit skewed do to the current Irish media presence we are seeing allot of the girls being pushed to the front which is all well and good but some balance at times would be great.

Saw a coder dojo article in papers a few days ago and was mainly focused on girls there.

Funnily enough I took my daughter who was about 14 at the time and her friend who was about 12 to a coder dojo and it was ridiculous how they were ignored except for one organiser who kept saying stuff like "you can make the web page girly pink". Painful....

gizmo555

professore wrote: »

Society also needs more nurses, in fact there is a chronic shortage. Why is there no similar programme to get men into nursing?

The video referred to and the person involved is one individual who took the initiative to do her own thing on encouraging girls (but not just girls) to try coding. If you feel so strongly about it, why don't you initiate your own "programme" for male nurses?

professore wrote: »

Funnily enough I took my daughter who was about 14 at the time and her friend who was about 12 to a coder dojo and it was ridiculous how they were ignored except for one organiser who kept saying stuff like "you can make the web page girly pink". Painful....

I've done a voluntary coding class in my kids' primary school and drew no distinction between girls and boys. The best work was done by one of the girls. Nevertheless, there was far less interest from girls in it and it was about 3:1 boys and girls in the class.

Calhoun

professore wrote: »

Funnily enough I took my daughter who was about 14 at the time and her friend who was about 12 to a coder dojo and it was ridiculous how they were ignored except for one organiser who kept saying stuff like "you can make the web page girly pink". Painful....

How long ago was this? and do you think they would get away with it in 2018? I hope you didn't let that stop them from learning though.

Padraig Mor

gizmo555 wrote: »

What you're describing there is quotas, which I've already said I disagree with.

These quotas are already in place. Applications to the major Irish research funding bodies from universities are required to have at least 50% women, regardless of the breakdown of the applications submitted internally. It is, in effect, much easier for a woman to get a grant.

H3llR4iser

gizmo555 wrote: »

As a male IT professional, I think its good. It's not discriminating against boys, its encouraging more girls to consider the profession, which has a shortage of people generally. So this is not creating opportunities for girls by taking them from boys. She has set up a group for girls, but on the video you can also clearly see boys participating in her other activities.

Yeah guys, we're losing sight of the ball a little bit here - I don't see an inherent problem with trying to get more girls into coding/IT, we're not talking about quotas. Given the fact there is indeed a general struggle for numbers in the field, trying to "encourage" that 50% slice of the population who seems to largely ignore it to at least consider a career is a no-brainer.


The part that needs serious, unbiased further investigation is the cause of such disparity - which works both ways when you consider things like teaching and nursing.

Maxpfizer wrote: »

Her answer was that they want "equal pay for work of equal value".

That is absolutely hilarious...I would really like it 'though, I could swap salaries with the company CEO, surely making the stuff we sell is of higher "value" than jetting around the world to go to "conventions"...

Calhoun

I don't believe we are loosing sight of anything. if we are playing by the rules of gender equality, what exactly are we doing for young boys other than put out a general vibe of your a dirty rapist.

iptba

Here's the latest batch of gender-related hashtags I have noticed trending for anyone interested (I know some are not)
(Aside: I'm not on Twitter 24/7 of course and don't look back at lists for when I wasn't on)


#SafeWorldSummit
The Safe Ireland Safe World Summit is taking place in The Mansion House on Monday and Tuesday, October 22nd and 23rd. Over 35 world leading activists, advocates, lawyers, historians, journalists, and survivors are coming to Dublin to explore the meaningful solutions that are needed to support women and children experiencing violence.

#LTB18
https://twitter.com/Noelle_OC/status/1054809059688353793
https://twitter.com/eimear0601/status/1054829105198309376

#Movember
Men show off their freshly shaved faces as Movember kicks off

#WomenWhoVenture
https://twitter.com/msquinn/status/1058009459119742976

#GoogleWalkout (Sort of fits)
https://twitter.com/CNET/status/1058001016954720256

professore

Calhoun wrote: »

How long ago was this? and do you think they would get away with it in 2018? I hope you didn't let that stop them from learning though.

About 6 years ago now. And neither of them had any interest in coding after that - although I doubt they ever did before either. My daughter is happily pursuing a non IT related STEM degree and her friend is training to be a make up artist.

She's a good case in point actually. High points and good results in maths and science subjects, and genuinely loves these subjects, not just a rote learner (impossible for maths anyway), yet she had no interest in IT as a career. Biology is her thing. You know, living systems. No amount of forcing or programmes would have swayed her. I even tried taking her to an engineering exhibition where students were showing their different areas of study. No dice. There was no patriarchy forcing her, or a lack of ability, just a lack of interest. In fact we were enormously supportive. And every other experience was very supportive apart from the coder dojo where I guess she was unlucky.

As anyone who works in IT knows, if you don't get a kick out of it, it's damn hard work and boring as hell.

Calhoun

professore wrote: »

About 6 years ago now. And neither of them had any interest in coding after that - although I doubt they ever did before either. My daughter is happily pursuing a non IT related STEM degree and her friend is training to be a make up artist.

She's a good case in point actually. High points and good results in maths and science subjects, and genuinely loves these subjects, not just a rote learner (impossible for maths anyway), yet she had no interest in IT as a career. Biology is her thing. You know, living systems. No amount of forcing or programmes would have swayed her. I even tried taking her to an engineering exhibition where students were showing their different areas of study. No dice. There was no patriarchy forcing her, or a lack of ability, just a lack of interest. In fact we were enormously supportive. And every other experience was very supportive apart from the coder dojo where I guess she was unlucky.

As anyone who works in IT knows, if you don't get a kick out of it, it's damn hard work and boring as hell.

That's great to hear and looks like you and your wife got her on the right track in the end and she is doing something she likes but also isn't some crappy fluff course.

Don't get me wrong either, i have two daughters one of which is on the ASD spectrum. Life isn't easy regardless of your gender i would rather they know they need to earn stuff off their own back because right now all this "female power" could just be a phase, or it could just be a select few at the top of the totem pole getting picked. They both need to be ready for the world.

A side aspect to this is i also believe in equality.

H3llR4iser

professore wrote: »

About 6 years ago now. And neither of them had any interest in coding after that - although I doubt they ever did before either. My daughter is happily pursuing a non IT related STEM degree and her friend is training to be a make up artist.

She's a good case in point actually. High points and good results in maths and science subjects, and genuinely loves these subjects, not just a rote learner (impossible for maths anyway), yet she had no interest in IT as a career. Biology is her thing. You know, living systems. No amount of forcing or programmes would have swayed her. I even tried taking her to an engineering exhibition where students were showing their different areas of study. No dice. There was no patriarchy forcing her, or a lack of ability, just a lack of interest. In fact we were enormously supportive. And every other experience was very supportive apart from the coder dojo where I guess she was unlucky.

As anyone who works in IT knows, if you don't get a kick out of it, it's damn hard work and boring as hell.

As someone who has been nearly two decades in IT, had she been my daughter I'd be very happy myself about her choice; and it has zero to do with the "male dominated industry" thing.



In short and as you perfectly pointed out in the last paragraph, working in IT becomes a soul-shattering boring grind after a few years and, while the pay is good compared to other STEM fields at the beginning of your career and through the mid-level years, it quickly plateaus when you reach senior levels - and there can be a hard stop when trying to move into management.



It's also a career path devoid of satisfaction: a few devs will go on and write the guidance system that'll land humans on Mars, but the vast majority will just be making more money for some CEO who already drives a Lambo anyway, gluing together pre-built libraries and modules and having a daily trip through dependencies hell. All while spending the day in the exciting world of financial software or b2b services.



TL;DR - Good for her!

Padraig Mor

Padraig Mor wrote: »

These quotas are already in place. Applications to the major Irish research funding bodies from universities are required to have at least 50% women, regardless of the breakdown of the applications submitted internally. It is, in effect, much easier for a woman to get a grant.

As an example of something along similar lines, here's an email from today from a major Irish educational body, offering a mentoring programme in cooperation with a multinational company - as long as you're the correct gender. This is but one of many similar programmes - all open only to females.



XXXXXXX mentoring programme 2018/2019 – for XXX

XXXXXX is committed to taking steps to inspire women and girls to seek out careers within Science, Technology, Engineering and Mathematics (STEM) disciplines. Research shows that women who have support and mentorship opportunities are more likely to seek out STEM careers.

XXXXXX have agreed to provide a mentoring opportunity for female XXX students and one female post-doctoral researcher supported by partnering with STEMconnector®’s Million Women Mentors (MWM), an initiative that aspires to provide 1 million mentors for girls and women looking to pursue STEM careers by 2019.

If you are a female post-doctoral researcher and interested in this mentoring opportunity please forward a 2 page CV and an Expression of Interest........

Emphasis as in the original email. Surely anyone who has appropriate "support and mentorship opportunities" would be more likely to seek out careers in the area - regardless of what's between their legs?

.

iptba

I wasn't sure which thread to post this on:

https://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:cTQ3vwP1pyUJ:https://www.parenting.com/news-break/9-year-old-could-face-sexual-harassment-charge-love-note+&cd=1&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=ie&client=firefox-b-ab

9-Year-Old Could Face Sexual Harassment Charge for Love Note

"My 9-year-old doesn't even know what sexual harassment means," mom says.

The Short of It

Believe it or not, a 9-year-old boy may face sexual harassment charges for passing a love note in class.
The Lowdown

Remember the excitement of getting a note from a crush? Well, those days may be over now that a 9-year-old Florida boy has been sent to the principal's office and threatened with sexual harassment charges for boldy pouring out his feelings to a girl on a piece of loose leaf paper in school.

"He's 9," his mother told ABC's WFTS News, who chose to not list the family's names to maintain their privacy. "What little kid doesn't write love notes?"

And his was pretty innocent in nature. "I like you," wrote the boy inside his drawing of a heart. "I like your hair because it is not sloppy. I like your eyes because they sparkle like diamonds."

The trouble started when his sweet words landed in the wrong hands, and other kids reportedly started teasing the boy about wanting to see the little girl naked.

"That's when the principal proceeded to tell me that it wasn't appropriate that he was writing the note and that if he writes another note, they are going to file sexual harassment charges on my 9-year-old," his mom said.

The school district told ABC Action News they did not threaten to involve authorities, but since the boy wrote multiple "unwanted notes" to his crush, it bordered on harassment.

But his mother argues he did absolutely nothing wrong: "My 9-year-old doesn't even know what sexual harassment means."

"I'm disappointed that the authorities chose to take such a heavy-handed approach," Kristi Davisson, an attorney with children in the same school district, told Yahoo Parenting. She thinks if the school does decide to pursue legal action, the boy's family may have grounds for a countersuit. "The district has had a huge push to stop bullying. Now they may have allowed this child to become a victim of it."
The Upshot

Licensed psychologist Dr. Valerie McClain agrees that this is probably not a case of sexual harassment. But she does encourage parents to use the situation as an opportunity to talk to their child about what is and is not appropriate in a school setting.

"What needs to happen is education needs to be provided about how to relate to this young girl or how to stay away from talking to her, if that's the goal," she told ABC Action News.

iptba

I saw this elsewhere:

Found in my International Treaties textbook. France and Ireland ratified CEDAW, except for the parts that make men and women equal.

https://imgur.com/a/yEWE40H

Not sure how to add images so have given a link to the image.

iptba

Here's the latest batch of gender-related hashtags I have noticed trending for anyone interested (I know some are not)
(Aside: I'm not on Twitter 24/7 of course and don't look back at lists for when I wasn't on)

I'm spreading this out over more than one message has to is a limit to the number of tweets that will show up in a message

#BringIt (possibly in Chicago)
#3percentconf
https://twitter.com/3PercentConf/status/1060567580413476865
https://twitter.com/CanDoWords/status/1060566089875243009
https://twitter.com/TroveAgency/status/1060548285482655744

iptba

#NationalSTEMDay (Not strictly speaking, gender-related, but a number are about gender)
https://twitter.com/mashable/status/1060539766188490753
https://twitter.com/mashable/status/1060553867086233600
https://twitter.com/cawstem/status/1060508060207235072
https://twitter.com/mashable/status/1060585482583719943
https://twitter.com/GirlUp/status/1060524987554127873

iptba

"Leinster House" (Not strictly speaking, gender -related, but most of the tweets seem to be about the "Fearless girl" statue)
https://twitter.com/davidstantontd/status/1060489974280265728
https://twitter.com/DFSDublin/status/1060498732557520896
https://twitter.com/DeptJusticeIRL/status/1060555556350541824
https://twitter.com/josephamadigan/status/1060565437421928448
https://twitter.com/BreathnachLouth/status/1060568305914777601

iptba

#WorkEqual
on the #GenderPayGap
https://twitter.com/fiannafailparty/status/1062383560345243648
https://twitter.com/DFSDublin/status/1062384470886699008
https://twitter.com/labour/status/1062371796228456449
https://twitter.com/helloalicepr/status/1062351879701757954

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The gender agenda: WHO Europe’s new men’s health strategy
22nd October 2018

https://www.healtheuropa.eu/mens-health/88561/

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From the Irish Times

What are the downsides of being a man in 2018?
As International Men’s Day approaches we want to hear from readers
Wed, Nov 14, 2018, 11:31

Monday, November 19th is International Men’s Day. As British commentator Caitlin Moran recently observed, we frequently discuss the downsides of being a woman but what is not discussed as often are the difficulties faced by men. Do people always expect you to have an opinion on football? Are you wary of walking behind a woman on a dark street in case she is fearful? Are you worried about saying the wrong thing in relation to #MeToo? Do you struggle with your mental health? Let us know using this form, and we’ll publish a selection of the responses on International Men’s Day.

What are the downsides of being a man in 2018?

https://www.irishtimes.com/life-and-style/what-are-the-downsides-of-being-a-man-in-2018-1.3697449

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Irish Independent:

Michael Kelly: 'Who wants a job based solely on gender? The glass ceiling has to end but talent must be the deciding factor'

https://www.independent.ie/opinion/comment/michael-kelly-who-wants-a-job-based-solely-on-gender-the-glass-ceiling-has-to-end-but-talent-must-be-the-deciding-factor-37534560.html

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Here's the latest batch of gender-related hashtags I have noticed trending for anyone interested (I know some are not)
(Aside: I'm not on Twitter 24/7 of course and don't look back at lists for when I wasn't on)

#SLCDublin
@SimmonsLeads
The Simmons Leadership Conference is the preeminent & longest-running women's leadership conference (est. 1979) | #SLCBoston #SLCDublin #SimmonsLEADS

#ThisIsNotConsent

#InternationalMensDay

#BWOTY18
Business Woman of the Year 2018 awards

#WomenInITAwards
Women in IT Awards
@womeninitawards
The world's largest tech gender diversity event. #WomenInITAwards Ireland - Silicon Valley - London - Asia - New York
https://twitter.com/Tech4GoodDublin/status/1065337784171462658
https://twitter.com/VGodolphin/status/1065334926956990464

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Southampton Students' Union president resigns in WW1 mural row

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/amp/uk-england-hampshire-46274283

On 24 October Ms Dawes tweeted: "Mark my words - we're taking down the mural of white men in the uni Senate room, even if I have to paint over it myself."

The mural, painted by Sir William Rothenstein in 1916, was completed as a tribute to students who were killed in World War One and were unable to collect their degrees.

Defunkd

iptba wrote: »

#WorkEqual
on the #GenderPayGap
https://twitter.com/fiannafailparty/status/1062383560345243648
https://twitter.com/DFSDublin/status/1062384470886699008
https://twitter.com/labour/status/1062371796228456449
https://twitter.com/helloalicepr/status/1062351879701757954

Did a bit of googling and I found, on the CSO site, that the average employed male works 39.7 hrs a week and the average employed female works 31.7 hrs a week.(1 day less per week)

So, this wage gap of men getting paid 14% extra than females is due to women doing 20% less work, on average, per week. That's still a +6% gain for not doing anything to deserve it...and still they complain.

I guess it could be professional suicide to highlight that working less hours means less pay?

iptba

Defunkd wrote: »

Did a bit of googling and I found, on the CSO site, that the average employed male works 39.7 hrs a week and the average employed female works 31.7 hrs a week.(1 day less per week)

So, this wage gap of men getting paid 14% extra than females is due to women doing 20% less work, on average, per week. That's still a +6% gain for not doing anything to deserve it...and still they complain.

I guess it could be professional suicide to highlight that working less hours means less pay?

I think the comparisons are rates per hour.