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Felexicon

bohsman wrote: »

It doesn't matter, the EPL marketed right and got us all in years ago with the sticker albums and the SKY sports best league in the world stuff, discussions just going to go round in circles, only way to change things is to get the kids interested.

Ok. I have never been to a LoI game. Being from Meath I don't have a local team to support. The closest to me are Bohs and Shels. But both are a good bit away.
The LoI or the FAI have never done anything to entice me out to Dalymount or Tolka to watch a game as a neutral.
I will watch LoI games when they are shown on TV but have never felt the urge to go spend 15-20 euro to see a team I don't have any affiliation with.
My point is that people going on to forums trying to belittle people into going to a LoI game because that will mean they are a real fan is not the way to go.
The LoI need to come up with some kind of idea to get me to 2 or 3 games and get me hooked on live football. They need to realise that they need me alot more than I need them

bohsman

Felexicon wrote: »

Ok. I have never been to a LoI game. Being from Meath I don't have a local team to support. The closest to me are Bohs and Shels. But both are a good bit away.
The LoI or the FAI have never done anything to entice me out to Dalymount or Tolka to watch a game as a neutral.
I will watch LoI games when they are shown on TV but have never felt the urge to go spend 15-20 euro to see a team I don't have any affiliation with.
My point is that people going on to forums trying to belittle people into going to a LoI game because that will mean they are a real fan is not the way to go.
The LoI need to come up with some kind of idea to get me to 2 or 3 games and get me hooked on live football. They need to realise that they need me alot more than I need them

There are plenty of Bohs fans in Meath alright, mostly Dubliners forced out that way during the lets pay ridic money for houses era. Tough for clubs to market out there when they are finding the going hard enough in the local areas unfortunately.

I agree that the belittling isn't the way to go but it really is tit for tat, generally threads that go that way are best avoided, much like similar Liverpool v Man U threads which at the end of the day don't stop people supporting the EPL.

Madworld

bohsman wrote: »

It doesn't matter, the EPL marketed right and got us all in years ago with the sticker albums and the SKY sports best league in the world stuff, discussions just going to go round in circles, only way to change things is to get the kids interested.

Im well aware that it marketed and still markets correctly as illustrated by its growth in Asian markets.

My issue isn't with the EPL. I regularly watch the EPL and La Liga But I'd equate it to watching porn over having the real thing. It might be prettier to look at but you don't get the same experience out of it.

My primary issue with EPL posters who don't support the LOI, is the fact they expect our national team to compete at an International Level, notwithstanding the fact we have a weak domestic league.

In the past we could piggyback of the back of the English system. With the influx of players from around the world into EPL youth academies we can no longer do this.

The reality of the situation is that unless more Irish supporters start to support LOI teams we are going to see a continued decline in the fortunes of our national teams as domestic teams will be unable to afford the coaching required to develop these players who in the past would have been able to do it in England.

bohsman

Madworld wrote: »

Im well aware that it marketed and still markets correctly as illustrated by its growth in Asian markets.

My issue isn't with the EPL. I regularly watch the EPL and La Liga But I'd equate it to watching porn over having the real thing. It might be prettier to look at but you don't get the same experience out of it.

My primary issue with EPL posters who don't support the LOI, is the fact they expect our national team to compete at an International Level, notwithstanding the fact we have a weak domestic league.

In the past we could piggyback of the back of the English system. With the influx of players from around the world into EPL youth academies we can no longer do this.

The reality of the situation is that unless more Irish supporters start to support LOI teams we are going to see a continued decline in the fortunes of our national teams as domestic teams will be unable to afford the coaching required to develop these players.

Fully agree but pointing out peoples apparent logic flaws isn't the way to make them come round.

Felexicon

bohsman wrote: »

There are plenty of Bohs fans in Meath alright, mostly Dubliners forced out that way during the lets pay ridic money for houses era. Tough for clubs to market out there when they are finding the going hard enough in the local areas unfortunately.

I agree that the belittling isn't the way to go but it really is tit for tat, generally threads that go that way are best avoided, much like similar Liverpool v Man U threads which at the end of the day don't stop people supporting the EPL.

So what is stopping the powers that be within the LoI putting a coupon in the striker supplement in the Star. It could offer the next 3 home games for 15 quid and you can bring 2 kids along for free with every adult ticket.
There just doesn't seem to be the ambition to attract new support. Most of my friends who do go to games do so because their Dads or Uncles brought them when they were kids

Lucan Bohs

Felexicon wrote: »

So what is stopping the powers that be within the LoI putting a coupon in the striker supplement in the Star. It could offer the next 3 home games for 15 quid and you can bring 2 kids along for free with every adult ticket.
There just doesn't seem to be the ambition to attract new support. Most of my friends who do go to games do so because their Dads or Uncles brought them when they were kids

The cost. If clubs feel they won't maje up the cost of the ad in gate money etc they're not going to do it realistically

bohsman

Felexicon wrote: »

So what is stopping the powers that be within the LoI putting a coupon in the striker supplement in the Star. It could offer the next 3 home games for 15 quid and you can bring 2 kids along for free with every adult ticket.
There just doesn't seem to be the ambition to attract new support. Most of my friends who do go to games do so because their Dads or Uncles brought them when they were kids

We had money off vouchers in the Star on match days for most of either last season or the season before. The main problem is that most really good offers will cost clubs a fortune because all the regulars will use them.

Felexicon

Lucan Bohs wrote: »

The cost. If clubs feel they won't maje up the cost of the ad in gate money etc they're not going to do it realistically

That's a very short sighted view though. They stand to make 10 times the money in the further from the new fans they attract.
Surely the FAI could susidise the clubs on a per ticket basis to allow for the short term fall in gate reciepts.
While the league is in an aweful state I'd imagine the higher ups have some sort of business head and could see this would be beneficial

bohsman

Felexicon wrote: »

That's a very short sighted view though. They stand to make 10 times the money in the further from the new fans they attract.
Surely the FAI could susidise the clubs on a per ticket basis to allow for the short term fall in gate reciepts.
While the league is in an aweful state I'd imagine the higher ups have some sort of business head and could see this would be beneficial

Absolutely would but it's difficult to look to the future when you're struggling to survive day to day. The FAI are skint so no help from them.

Madworld

Marty McFly wrote: »

Maybe it is but it still makes sense in a roundabout way. IF you want to support local teams fair play to you that up to yourself, but coming on and acting as if your the bee kness because you do is a bit sad be happy with who you support and let other people worry about themselves.

But when it comes to the national team were all united as one and what happened to bring this thread about was something nice as an Irish fan to witness and read statements from Poland and players regards our fans cant we all just be happy that our fans are held in high esteem, instead of LOI fans trying to undermine those who arent? This is a football thread so im all for debating merits of football players, teams, matchs etc but debating ones pasion or rights to follow whichever team they choose should be left at the door on the way into the soccer forum.

I'm not challenging you right to support whomever you want. But by not supporting a LOI team along with Arsenal you are hurting the National Team.

If you look at smaller countries than Ireland who compete against the larger countries they all have strong domestic leagues. Take Croatia for example. Dinamo Zagreb have 40,000 at some of their games.

Or Uruguay and National who have 60,000 at some of their games. Its no coincidence that these national teams have strong domestic leagues where players can get top class coaching before joining clubs in the bigger leagues.

Felexicon wrote: »

Ok. I have never been to a LoI game. Being from Meath I don't have a local team to support. The closest to me are Bohs and Shels. But both are a good bit away.
The LoI or the FAI have never done anything to entice me out to Dalymount or Tolka to watch a game as a neutral.
I will watch LoI games when they are shown on TV but have never felt the urge to go spend 15-20 euro to see a team I don't have any affiliation with.
My point is that people going on to forums trying to belittle people into going to a LoI game because that will mean they are a real fan is not the way to go.
The LoI need to come up with some kind of idea to get me to 2 or 3 games and get me hooked on live football. They need to realise that they need me alot more than I need them

It's kind of a catch 22 situation. Clubs need money to market to fans like yourself. However clubs don't have the money to do this marketing because people don't go to games.

However since the club don't have the money to market to a fan like yourself, I'm going to put in a shameless plug for my own club Bohemian FC. If you want two games to get the experience were playing Rovers on the 29th and depending on the draw a European Game on the 5th of July.

And when you think about it and pay your money into Dalymount Park you are directly contributing to the development of the next James McClean

looder

Madworld wrote: »

Im well aware that it marketed and still markets correctly as illustrated by its growth in Asian markets.

My issue isn't with the EPL. I regularly watch the EPL and La Liga But I'd equate it to watching porn over having the real thing. It might be prettier to look at but you don't get the same experience out of it.

My primary issue with EPL posters who don't support the LOI, is the fact they expect our national team to compete at an International Level, notwithstanding the fact we have a weak domestic league.

In the past we could piggyback of the back of the English system. With the influx of players from around the world into EPL youth academies we can no longer do this.

The reality of the situation is that unless more Irish supporters start to support LOI teams we are going to see a continued decline in the fortunes of our national teams as domestic teams will be unable to afford the coaching required to develop these players who in the past would have been able to do it in England.

...and out of interest, do you follow a local non-league team and go to their matches? If not, then your whole LOI argument is bull****.

Is there any country with a population under 5 million with a strong domestic league? Not that I can think of anyway.

Not to mention that soccer (especially domestic soccer) isn't the number 1 sport (or even the number 2 in some parts) of Ireland.

My local league of Ireland club is Waterford Utd and I've probably been to two or three Waterford games in my lifetime (mainly due to the fact that I knew a few of the players playing) but I've zero affiliation to them and as they're located in a different county to me, and I'm predominantly a GAA man there's no way I'd support them as much as I'd support Liverpool (who admittedly I've zero affiliation for either, but have followed them with 20 odd years).

So if I've no real affiliation with any LOI club, then in my mind it makes sense to follow a club who play at a higher level of soccer. In contrast, in GAA, I've one club, and one county and am much more passionate about the club I support.

Have you ever tried to watch Junior soccer matches? The majority of them are painful to watch. The majority of LOI games are the same in my opinion whereas the majority of Premiership games are bearable.

RE your Spain argument from an earlier post. I'm Irish so it's only natural I'd follow Ireland. I have an affiliation with the country. I was in Poland and I was there predominantly on a holiday and for the beer as much as for the soccer. I've no problems in admitting that. Is there anything wrong with that? I don't think so anyway.

Felexicon

bohsman wrote: »

Absolutely would but it's difficult to look to the future when you're struggling to survive day to day. The FAI are skint so no help from them.

But the future is exactly where a business needs to look at times like that. Otherwise you are just putting in short term resolution to keep you threading water. If you follow these that is the position you stay in. There has to be a long term goal.

Also just to get LoI fans on my side

John Delaney isn't skint on his 400k a year the bollix

bohsman

looder wrote: »

...and out of interest, do you follow a local non-league team and go to their matches? If not, then your whole LOI argument is bull****.

I don't see how, all anyone is saying that putting more money and support into Irish footie at all levels would do wonders for the game, be that at LOI level or at amateur level.

Would be the same as if everyone started supporting some GAA club in a different county because the standard was better and then became upset that their county wasn't competetive.

Corholio

Marty McFly wrote: »

:rolleyes: good argument, no I support Arsenal because I enjoy watching a high standard of football and enjoy watching some of the best players the world has ever seen play week in week out wouldnt you? If I want to go watch a bunch of people who couldnt cut it at a high standard of football ill go watch one my local teams play for free not go and pay to watch 11 sunday morning footballers kick the ball around.

Any Iirish player worth his salt jumps at the chance to a move to England including the lower leagues, because he knows the standard is better, better money, better quality grounds and training facilities.

Accept the fact were a small nation were never going to have a high quality league even if every person in this republic went to watch the games week in week out. Now stop with the im mightier than thou attitude. This crap of you should support the team were you live is bulll****.

We should be looking at improving our standards at grassroots level so we produce better players.

You give people who argue good points in the whole LOI argument a bad name. Ignorance at its worst most definitely. Do you think England would have this 'high standard' of football if there was a few hundred or a couple of thousand going to see the matches every week?

Madworld

looder wrote: »

...and out of interest, do you follow a local non-league team and go to their matches? If not, then your whole LOI argument is bull****.

Is there any country with a population under 5 million with a strong domestic league? Not that I can think of anyway.

Not to mention that soccer (especially domestic soccer) isn't the number 1 sport (or even the number 2 in some parts) of Ireland.

My local league of Ireland club is Waterford Utd and I've probably been to two or three Waterford games in my lifetime (mainly due to the fact that I knew a few of the players playing) but I've zero affiliation to them and as they're located in a different county to me, and I'm predominantly a GAA man there's no way I'd support them as much as I'd support Liverpool (who admittedly I've zero affiliation for either, but have followed them with 20 odd years).

So if I've no real affiliation with any LOI club, then in my mind it makes sense to follow a club who play at a higher level of soccer. In contrast, in GAA, I've one club, and one county and am much more passionate about the club I support.

Have you ever tried to watch Junior soccer matches? The majority of them are painful to watch. The majority of LOI games are the same in my opinion whereas the majority of Premiership games are bearable.

RE your Spain argument from an earlier post. I'm Irish so it's only natural I'd follow Ireland. I have an affiliation with the country. I was in Poland and I was there predominantly on a holiday and for the beer as much as for the soccer. I've no problems in admitting that. Is there anything wrong with that? I don't think so anyway.

I have work tomorrow so I ll reply in more detail then.

But since you are a GAA man, what would you think of a Carlow man supporting Kerry and going to Killarney or Tralee to watch Kerry games because Carlow are shi*e?

Green Diesel

Madworld wrote: »

But since you are a GAA man, what would you think of a Carlow man supporting Kerry and going to Killarney or Tralee to watch Kerry games because Carlow are shi*e?

I don't think you can apply this argument to LOI as there are vast areas of Ireland (like Mayo) without a LOI club. You'd be writing people that live there (i.e. me) off as potential fans because they are not local to the LOI team they support.

In GAA (and international level sport) every part of the country (world) is covered by a county (national) team.

gustavo

Marty McFly wrote: »

:rolleyes: good argument, no I support Arsenal because I enjoy watching a high standard of football and enjoy watching some of the best players the world has ever seen play week in week out wouldnt you?.

Have you thought about which team you would support instead of Arsenal should they ever get relegated or start playing poor football ?

Or at least have in your mind a baseline of standard that should they fall below you'd have no option but to withdraw your support?

Important questions seeing as it's the reason you give for supporting them.

Ashbourne hoop

Marty McFly wrote: »

No but neither Shamrock Rovers or Shelbourne represent my culture for me either and after that it comes down to watching a high standard of football, were just going round in circles here.

Yes im from Dublin but im from an area that is not really represented by any of them. Shamrock Rovers being the closest to me but there seen as a Tallaght team and im not from Tallaght.

Sorry but you couldn't be more wrong. Rovers have fans from all over Dublin, and further.

Felexicon

gustavo wrote: »

Have you thought about which team you would support instead of Arsenal should they ever get relegated or start playing poor football ?

Or at least have in your mind a baseline of standard that should they fall below you'd have no option but to withdraw your support?

Important questions seeing as it's the reason you give for supporting them.

Afair point well made sir.

geeky

looder wrote: »

My local league of Ireland club is Waterford Utd and I've probably been to two or three Waterford games in my lifetime .....

Have you ever tried to watch Junior soccer matches? The majority of them are painful to watch. The majority of LOI games are the same in my opinion...

Support who you want, but don't spout off about the standard of a league that you admit you don't watch.

Ashbourne hoop

n32 wrote: »

Youre dead right , the poles were on the lash and singing after the Czech game just as much as we were. Like us they knew they had little or no chance in the long run

Differrence being the Poles and the Czechs have strong national leagues well supported by people in their own country.

looder

geeky wrote: »

Support who you want, but don't spout off about the standard of a league that you admit you don't watch.

Well considering it's my opinion, I'll spout whatever I want about the LOI. . .


. . . and it's only in response to lads who think they are superior to others because they watch/support the league.

Felexicon

He spouts what he wants.
He spouts what he wants.
We've got Looder.
And he spouts what he wants

Ashbourne hoop

Have you ever tried to watch Junior soccer matches? The majority of them are painful to watch. The majority of LOI games are the same in my opinion whereas the majority of Premiership games are bearable.

Watching Ireland under Trap is incredibly painful to watch yet 30k apparently spent good money to do so.

I was in Poland and I was there predominantly on a holiday and for the beer as much as for the soccer. I've no problems in admitting that. Is there anything wrong with that? I don't think so anyway.[/QUOTE]

I think that's what a lot of people in this thread have an issue with.

looder

Felexicon wrote: »

He spouts what he wants.
He spouts what he wants.
We've got Looder.
And he spouts what he wants

I feel honoured to have a chant about me

Fr Tod Umptious

mike65 wrote: »

There was a Polish fella on John Murrays show on RTE radio this morning who summed it up - he said when Poland lose "we take it very seriously, are depressed and annoyed. when Ireland lose they sing...." Poland was a holiday with some football games thrown in, no doubt if Ireland had gone out there with genuine expectation of progress to the Quarter Finals things would have been far less happy/clappy in the stadiums and more intense.

All this has gone to far.

So now people all over Europe think that when we loose we just break out in song, that is simply not true.

I can't remember singing when we went down 3-2 to Russia at home
I can't remember singing in 2005 when we drew with the Swiss when we needed a win to get to the play-offs

The singing at the Spain game was in some way unique, there they were being taken apart by the better team, is in p**ing rain what was there to do only sing.

At the Italian game it was different, close to the end people started singing the 'Field of Athenry', it was almost as if they forgot to do it and then though 'oh s**t, were loosing, the game is almost over, better sing quick for the cameras'.
And it did not last either.
At the Italian game there seemed to be a realization that it was all over and that the team (management, players) had just completely failed.
Even the applause when the team had a quick lap of the ground was in a way muted.

geeky

looder wrote: »

Well considering it's my opinion, I'll spout whatever I want about the LOI. . .


. . . and it's only in response to lads who think they are superior to others because they watch/support the league.

If you want to advertise that you form your views from a position of total ignorance, I suppose that's your right. Seems a silly thing to do IMO.

And yeah, the superiority complex of some LOI fans is a bit pathetic. But it doesn't justify mouthing off about the standard of play in a league you don't watch. If I went on the GAA forums slagging off 'bogball', comparing it to kids matches while admitting I don't actually watch it, I'd be slated. And rightly so.

Pineapple stu

Pro. F wrote: »

You need to get out and meet some ultras.

Those guys really let their players know how they feel when they under perform.
Was it Lazio fans that made their players take off their shirts because they played like muck and the fans felt they were not worthy of wearing the shirt.?

Captain Havoc

Ashbourne hoop wrote: »

Sorry but you couldn't be more wrong. Rovers have fans from all over Dublin, and further

Rovers are the closest team to my work, I drive up from Carlow. The last night after the Limerick game, I met a Dub in the service station on the way home, he had a Rovers top, so I started about the match. He lives in Waterford and drives up for every game.

rmchmufc

Pineapple stu wrote: »

Those guys really let their players know how they feel when they under perform.
Was it Lazio fans that made their players take off their shirts because they played like muck and the fans felt they were not worthy of wearing the shirt.?

Genoa I think

southlouth type

Can some of you anti LOI people on here just admit for once that you dont support your own league and dont attend matches etc for one reason and one reason only , you are to feckin lazy and just couldnt be arsed ! It really is much easier to support arsenal etc as you dont have to actually do anything other than watch tv and maybe go to one game every season and have a nice weekend in London while you are at it . I genuinely feel sorry for you as you just dont know how great it feels to follow a team from your town / city , to stand on the terraces each week with family members giving it loads for your team .. If you are lucky enough to bring half of your town to a cup final in lansdowne ! What a day , what a game ! Best feeling ive ever had in my life . The celebrations after winning the league etc , the lows after getting relegated etc etc . These are the things that are shared in the community of LOI supporters that make it special to us and you will never understand them unless you get involved . Standard of football my arse ! I watch match of the day like the next man and the majority of it can be pure ****e ! My brother in Law is a Bolton Wanderers season ticket holder ( Hes actually from Bolton ) and he has been to some LOI matches with me over the years and enjoyed the experience bigtime , much more real and a better atmosphere he reckoned .

The_Kew_Tour

Pineapple stu wrote: »

Those guys really let their players know how they feel when they under perform.
Was it Lazio fans that made their players take off their shirts because they played like muck and the fans felt they were not worthy of wearing the shirt.?

Ya and if the Irish fans had done that they would have been applauded.:rolleyes:

Who are you kidding?

looder

geeky wrote: »

If you want to advertise that you form your views from a position of total ignorance, I suppose that's your right. Seems a silly thing to do IMO.

And yeah, the superiority complex of some LOI fans is a bit pathetic. But it doesn't justify mouthing off about the standard of play in a league you don't watch. If I went on the GAA forums slagging off 'bogball', comparing it to kids matches while admitting I don't actually watch it, I'd be slated. And rightly so.

I've watched LOI matches, and in my opinion the majority of them (the ones I watched) were painful viewing. The same way I've been to countless Junior soccer matches over the years to support lads I know and the majority of them are hard to watch.

I'm well entitled to that opinion, the same way you're well entitled to you opinion on the LOI.

If people hadn't opinions, there would be no such thing as message boards.

Pineapple stu

The_Kew_Tour wrote: »

Ya and if the Irish fans had done that they would have been applauded.:rolleyes:

Who are you kidding?

It just shows the difference in the passion between those that are mad into their club and country and those that couldnt give a toss either way.
Maybe they should have and Ireland could be playing England on sunday.

The_Kew_Tour

Pineapple stu wrote: »

It just shows the difference in the passion between those that are mad into their club and country and those that couldnt give a toss either way.
Maybe they should have and Ireland could be playing England on sunday.[/QUOTE]


We were knocked out after Spain game so your point makes no sense.

We could have beaten Italy 100-0 would not have mattered.

Felexicon

Pineapple stu wrote: »

It just shows the difference in the passion between those that are mad into their club and country and those that couldnt give a toss either way.
Maybe they should have and Ireland could be playing England on sunday.

Em I'm fairly sure if Irish fans did that we would have been booted out of the competition.
Also doing that to players shows you are mental not passionate.

The_Kew_Tour

Felexicon wrote: »

Em I'm fairly sure if Irish fans did that we would have been booted out of the competition.
Also doing that to players shows you are mental not passionate.

Your spot on

You have to wonder what people do be thinking at times.

looder

southlouth type wrote: »

Can some of you anti LOI people on here just admit for once that you dont support your own league and dont attend matches etc for one reason and one reason only , you are to feckin lazy and just couldnt be arsed ! It really is much easier to support arsenal etc as you dont have to actually do anything other than watch tv and maybe go to one game every season and have a nice weekend in London while you are at it . I genuinely feel sorry for you as you just dont know how great it feels to follow a team from your town / city , to stand on the terraces each week with family members giving it loads for your team .. If you are lucky enough to bring half of your town to a cup final in lansdowne ! What a day , what a game ! Best feeling ive ever had in my life . The celebrations after winning the league etc , the lows after getting relegated etc etc . These are the things that are shared in the community of LOI supporters that make it special to us and you will never understand them unless you get involved . Standard of football my arse ! I watch match of the day like the next man and the majority of it can be pure ****e ! My brother in Law is a Bolton Wanderers season ticket holder ( Hes actually from Bolton ) and he has been to some LOI matches with me over the years and enjoyed the experience bigtime , much more real and a better atmosphere he reckoned .

Am, no!

I know exactly what it feels like to support a team from my own town, and have traveled the length and breadth of the county (and country) supporting them, giving my blood, sweat and tears playing for and supporting them and coaching younger teams within the club also. It's not a soccer club though, it's a hurling club. They don't play at a great standard, but their my team and I wouldn't dare follow anyone else. I've being involved with them since I was 5 years of age.

Why should I support a LOI team 30 miles away? just because someone on the internet says I should?

Just because you follow the LOI and a LOI team, don't make assumptions that other people are too lazy to follow it. Your real local team is your local junior soccer team. Go support them, and support the real grassroots 'football' in this country.

Marty McFly

Corholio wrote: »

You give people who argue good points in the whole LOI argument a bad name. Ignorance at its worst most definitely. Do you think England would have this 'high standard' of football if there was a few hundred or a couple of thousand going to see the matches every week?

Yes but theres a difference between the two look at the population off England compared to ours no matter what the LOI will never ever reach that standard, it might be sad to admit but that is fact. Plus its easy to pick one line in almost any post and make an argument out of it, if you want to have a debate at least take the time to address the whole post.

gustavo wrote: »

Have you thought about which team you would support instead of Arsenal should they ever get relegated or start playing poor football ?

Or at least have in your mind a baseline of standard that should they fall below you'd have no option but to withdraw your support?

Important questions seeing as it's the reason you give for supporting them.

True and that is a fair question but see I started supporting Arsenal in my youth when they had a high enough standard of football my first lasting memory being Alan Smiths goal in the cup winner cup, now as has been mentioned by one LOI supporter on here you can piut that down to good marketing by Sky and EPL, not sure at that age if I was even aware of LOI plus not being taken to games as a kid I dont feel an affiliation with any of the clubs in LOI and its not going to start happening now.

As for Arsenal because I have supported them my whole life I will always support them regardless of relegation etc.

Ashbourne hoop wrote: »

Sorry but you couldn't be more wrong. Rovers have fans from all over Dublin, and further.

Maybe I could be wrong on that one, but being from Clondalkin I dont know one person who follows Rovers, as among people I know or associate with there seen as a Tallaght club and not representive of our area, I know one or two who will half support Pats but thats due to playing for them at junior levels, which a lot from my area did at underage levels.

southlouth type

looder wrote: »

Am, no!

I know exactly what it feels like to support a team from my own town, and have traveled the length and breadth of the county (and country) supporting them, giving my blood, sweat and tears playing for and supporting them and coaching younger teams within the club also. It's not a soccer club though, it's a hurling club. They don't play at a great standard, but their my team and I wouldn't dare follow anyone else. I've being involved with them since I was 5 years of age.

Why should I support a LOI team 30 miles away? just because someone on the internet says I should?

Just because you follow the LOI and a LOI team, don't make assumptions that other people are too lazy to follow it. Your real local team is your local junior soccer team. Go support them, and support the real grassroots 'football' in this country.

As is said before i dont give a toss wether you or anyone else in this god forsaken country of ours decides to support there own league . If you do then it will have huge positives for the game of football ( not hurling ) in Ireland . I was just letting people know what they are missing by not doing so . Out of interest are you a football fan ? who do you support ?

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The_Kew_Tour wrote: »

Pineapple stu wrote: »

It just shows the difference in the passion between those that are mad into their club and country and those that couldnt give a toss either way.
Maybe they should have and Ireland could be playing England on sunday.[/QUOTE]


We were knocked out after Spain game so your point makes no sense.

We could have beaten Italy 100-0 would not have mattered.

There was 2 games to go after the awful display against croatia. The attitude coming across was "Dont mind lads , we were supposed to lose so lets have a sing song"

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Maybe I could be wrong on that one, but being from Clondalkin I dont know one person who follows Rovers, as among people I know or associate with there seen as a Tallaght club .[/QUOTE]

Lots of Rovers fans out Clondalkin/Ballyfermot way.

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Felexicon wrote: »

Em I'm fairly sure if Irish fans did that we would have been booted out of the competition.
Also doing that to players shows you are mental not passionate.

Ireland were booted out anyway.

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The_Kew_Tour wrote: »

Your spot on

You have to wonder what people do be thinking at times.

I was thinking the same when i was watching the 3 games.

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Madworld wrote: »

My issue isn't with the EPL. I regularly watch the EPL and La Liga But I'd equate it to watching porn over having the real thing. It might be prettier to look at but you don't get the same experience out of it.

LOL
Watching a Barca Madrid game is like having a glorious **** to Stoya & Brie Olsen lezzing up then getting leathered out of it by a bloke with an apendage akin to a baby's arm.
Watching a Bohs/Drogheda game is like getting a semi soft quickie in a carpark with a munter after last orders.

I like it. And I know what I'd prefer.

Felexicon

Pineapple stu wrote: »

The_Kew_Tour wrote: »

There was 2 games to go after the awful display against croatia. The attitude coming across was "Dont mind lads , we were supposed to lose so lets have a sing song"

He's got a pineapple on his head
He's got a pineapple on his head



Who cares if they had a sing song. Jesus Christ man, move on.

Felexicon

DeadParrot wrote: »

LOL
Watching a Barca Madrid game is like having a glorious **** to Stoya & Brie Olsen lezzing up then getting leathered out of it by a bloke with an apendage akin to a baby's arm.
Watching a Bohs/Drogheda game is like getting a semi soft quickie in a carpark with a munter after last orders.

I like it. And I know what I'd prefer.

I love Bohs/Drogheda aswell man

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Felexicon wrote: »

Pineapple stu wrote: »

He's got a pineapple on his head
He's got a pineapple on his head



Who cares if they had a sing song. Jesus Christ man, move on.

Ireland played muck and they got sang and cheered off the pitch. What the feck is that all about? If they played out of their skin and lost the fair enough but not when they played like if they hadnt a clue.

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Des wrote: »

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