Best fans in the world

Leiva

Jeez the bitterness on this thread is incredible.

People trying to pigeon hole and label what a fan should be, and if it doesn't match their own preferences then it's all wind & piss.

dan1895

Saw a lad at least in his 30's with the brand new Arsenal shirt and "Wilshire" printed on the back. I would of thought getting a brand new shirt with a name on the back is something a ten year old does, not a grown man. Give me league of ireland over this type of pathetic drooling over forereign millionaires anyday.

Benimar

This thread should be renamed the 'I'm a bigger fan than you' thread.

I'm a LOI season ticket holder but the attitude of some LOI fans on here is appalling. Who cares why people went to Poland, they showed Irish people in a great light and we should be commending them for it.

But no. Unless you spend Friday nights at your local LOI club, you aren't a real fan it seems. What about those who went to Poland who work at real local level with Junior clubs but don't go to LOI? They not real fans either, I suppose?

One thing is for certain, if UEFA gave an award for begrudgery no other country would get a look in.

CiaranC

Benimar wrote: »

But no. Unless you spend Friday nights at your local LOI club, you aren't a real fan it seems. What about those who went to Poland who work at real local level with Junior clubs but don't go to LOI? They not real fans either, I suppose?

Dont come in without bothering to read the thread and start accusing people of this that and the other. That point has been covered multiple times. People have a problem with drunken gob****es on holiday being painted best fans in the world when they wont be anywhere near a football club for the next ten years all the while Irish football is nosediving into oblivion

monkey9

Sir Gallagher wrote: »

I really dont see the problem with it.

The bloke just really really annoys me.

The fact he's a Bohs fan doesn't help! :pac:

Benimar

CiaranC wrote: »

Dont come in without bothering to read the thread and start accusing people of this that and the other. That point has been covered multiple times. People have a problem with drunken gob****es on holiday being painted best fans in the world when they wont be anywhere near a football club for the next ten years all the while Irish football is nosediving into oblivion

I've read every post on this thread, so don't accuse me otherwise. Some of those 'drunken gob****es' were friends of mine who slog their guts out every week keeping junior clubs running.

Maybe you would be better applauding these people, and realise that they probably do more for football than someone paying to go to a LOI game.

Yes there were people there on their holidays, and enjoyed a booze up. So what? They showed the country in a great light and yet people have a problem with them being recognised for it?

Remember, they didn't claim to be the best fans in the world and yet that stick is continuously being used to beat them.

CiaranC

Benimar wrote: »

Maybe you would be better applauding these people, and realise that they probably do more for football than someone paying to go to a LOI game.

Oh shut up, I applauded them on the first page of this thread and the post recieved 100+ thanks including from just about every LOI fan on here. Clown.

dan1895

CiaranC wrote: »

Oh shut up, I applauded them on the first page of this thread and the post recieved 100+ thanks including from just about every LOI fan on here. Clown.

He did you know, and I think that may have been the last sensible thing said on this thread. LOI is only being used as its the highest level of football in this country. I'd have the same attitude towards a person who goes to watch Crumlin Utd or Douglas Hall every week as someone who does the same for Shels or Cork City.

CSF

Jesus, with the amount of junior coaches we apparently have, it must be some sort of reverse miracle that its not us in the final today.

Renn

Father Damo

Frank Spencer wrote: »

Only watched this now because I had nothing better to do.

Christ what a fcuking gobsh1te. "Bleedin singin in deh foren countreez, ah jaysus oim real like". He may have a point on the foreign teams issue but his high horse attitude to better fans than him in Poland, unreal.

southlouth type

Father Damo wrote: »

Only watched this now because I had nothing better to do.

Christ what a fcuking gobsh1te. "Bleedin singin in deh foren countreez, ah jaysus oim real like". He may have a point on the foreign teams issue but his high horse attitude to better fans than him in Poland, unreal.

Every last word he said is true though , the presentation might not be great but i cannot disagree with anything he has to say

applehunter

Awards for best fans.

The countdown to kick-off.

Guerilla advertising is worse that racist chants.

Goal-line technology still not in place.

Music being pumped out when a goal is scored.

**** UEFA!!!!!!!!!!

dsmythy

Sky Sports News summary of Euro 2012. England get to the quarter finals. Ireland have great fans. At least they decided to forget our results.

bohsman

Father Damo wrote: »

Only watched this now because I had nothing better to do.

Christ what a fcuking gobsh1te. "Bleedin singin in deh foren countreez, ah jaysus oim real like". He may have a point on the foreign teams issue but his high horse attitude to better fans than him in Poland, unreal.

He did a hell of a lot of work for free to keep an Irish club alive over the last year, he's more than welcome on a high horse if he wants one as far as I'm concerned.

He also got his very own award recently.



To keep with arguments from others posts from the likes of Father Damo would put me off supporting the Irish national team.

maximoose

This morning at the top of Grafton St there is a massive revolving billboard saying you are the "Kings of the Craic!" and "Poznan thanks you!", with some Irish media company's website underneath. Wonder does this have anything to do with anyone in Poznan or just more horn blowing.

Ashbourne hoop

maximoose wrote: »

This morning at the top of Grafton St there is a massive revolving billboard saying you are the "Kings of the Craic!" and "Poznan thanks you!", with some Irish media company's website underneath. Wonder does this have anything to do with anyone in Poznan or just more horn blowing.

Jaysus what an awful term...

Green Diesel

maximoose wrote: »

This morning at the top of Grafton St there is a massive revolving billboard saying you are the "Kings of the Craic!" and "Poznan thanks you!", with some Irish media company's website underneath. Wonder does this have anything to do with anyone in Poznan or just more horn blowing.

Twas one of them on O'Connell St. yesterday.

Ryszard Grobelny, Mayor of Poznan, said: “You turned our city into a green island — a happy land of dance and song.”

http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/irishsun/irishsunnews/4411461/Poznan-ad-thanks-Ireland-footie-fans.html

RayCon

bohsman wrote: »

He's a comedian :eek:

stovelid

Green Diesel wrote: »

Ryszard Grobelny, Mayor of Poznan, said: “You turned our city into a green island — a happy land of dance and song.”

Pass the sick bucket.

Would almost make want to wreck the place next time Ireland play there.

Brain Stroking

stovelid wrote: »

Pass the sick bucket.

Would almost make want to wreck the place next time Ireland play there.

Did you go to Poznan or Gdansk for the Euros Stovelid?

stovelid

Brain Stroking wrote: »

Did you go to Poznan or Gdansk for the Euros Stovelid?

No. I like seeing the national team do well but I stopped going to Ireland games after the 2010 qualifiers. Only football trips abroad I do now is to see my club.

Not knocking the long-term Irish fans that went over by the way.

homerjay2005

CSF wrote: »

Jesus, with the amount of junior coaches we apparently have, it must be some sort of reverse miracle that its not us in the final today.

you honestly need to take yourself away from your keyboard and start looking around at the great work being done at the real grass roots level in ireland.

i did my first coaching badge back in March and there was 70 people on the course. thats one course, in one area. these courses are running throughout the country every week and have been for about 5 years or more.

underage football is thriving in this country, junior football also, more people are playing it over any other sport.

yet this is constantly getting ignored.

dan1895

homerjay2005 wrote: »

underage football is thriving in this country, junior football also, more people are playing it over any other sport.

yet this is constantly getting ignored.

True but exists in its own little bubble. then the LOI exists in another bubble and the national team in yet another. Its that disconnection between the three that is hampering the development of football in Ireland.

homerjay2005

dan1895 wrote: »

True but exists in its own little bubble. then the LOI exists in another bubble and the national team in yet another. Its that disconnection between the three that is hampering the development of football in Ireland.

and the key link between them all unfortunately is English football.

sending a young player to the UK, is the aim for most clubs who are developing young talent.

comes down to money perhaps unfortunately.

stovelid

Hopefully a lot of the work Koevermans was doing won't go by the wayside now like the u-19 league and so on. I think WK wanted LOI clubs to be forced to field teams in the U-19 league?

As people have pointed out there needs to be a connection between the cream of young players and the top domestic clubs where the players can develop more slowly and then come back to the game here if they don't make it in England and even go back at at a later stage like others have done.

At the moment. any good work at junior level is wasted (in terms of the league) as the top junior cubs just want to get as many kids over to England as possible. The overwhelming majority fail in England and come back to drop out of football.

On a related note: Somebody told me the other that the English academies are to adopt a more continental approach where kids don;t play competitively until a certain age and just concentrate on technique? Is that true?

CSF

homerjay2005 wrote: »

CSF wrote: »

Jesus, with the amount of junior coaches we apparently have, it must be some sort of reverse miracle that its not us in the final today.

you honestly need to take yourself away from your keyboard and start looking around at the great work being done at the real grass roots level in ireland.

i did my first coaching badge back in March and there was 70 people on the course. thats one course, in one area. these courses are running throughout the country every week and have been for about 5 years or more.

underage football is thriving in this country, junior football also, more people are playing it over any other sport.

yet this is constantly getting ignored.

Away from my keyboard? I've been coaching for a good few years.

homerjay2005

CSF wrote: »

Away from my keyboard? I've been coaching for a good few years.

so you should see first hand then the level of work being done at grass roots level in this country.

ive been coaching for about 15 years and the progression over the past 5 years has been excellent and much better than when i started.

and im still learning all the time, doing the badges has thought me a f*ck load that i didnt know and its the same for everybody i believe.

its taking a long time of course, but people also forget the fact that in this country we have GAA football and hurling and to a lesser extent, rugby competing for youngsters time.

bren2001

homerjay2005 wrote: »

its taking a long time of course, but people also forget the fact that in this country we have GAA football and hurling and to a lesser extent, rugby competing for youngsters time.

Thats a huge problem. When I was younger my Gaelic team could field 2 teams with about 36/37 kids coming training every week. My soccer team could barely get 11 week in week out. My training times clashed and it was very difficult to keep going, I ended up sticking with Gaelic because I had more friends there.

If we really want to develop soccer then we need to start getting those big numbers into the clubs by tying in with Gaelic clubs, at the end of the day its about keeping kids healthy when they are younger.

CiaranC

More people play football than all the gaelic sports combined. Participation is not the problem, nor is the quality of coaching. The problems are structural.

Beefy78

stovelid wrote: »

On a related note: Somebody told me the other that the English academies are to adopt a more continental approach where kids don;t play competitively until a certain age and just concentrate on technique? Is that true?

Yep. No league tables until U12s and youth football will be built around smaller sized teams, smaller pitches and smaller goals to hopefully shift the emphasis from physical strength and pace to technical ability.

The Dutch FA recently sent delegates over to England to see what parts of the newer English youth coaching methods they could take back with them to the Netherlands, which is obviously a drastic turnaround from the usual situation.

bren2001

CiaranC wrote: »

More people play football than all the gaelic sports combined. Participation is not the problem, nor is the quality of coaching. The problems are structural.

Thats not the case in Dublin anyway. Theres a hell of a lot more kids playing Gaelic than kids playing football. Participation is a big problem, I know plenty of very good footballers who stopped playing because they made a Dublin team.

dsmythy

Beefy78 wrote: »

Yep. No league tables until U12s and youth football will be built around smaller sized teams, smaller pitches and smaller goals to hopefully shift the emphasis from physical strength and pace to technical ability.

The Dutch FA recently sent delegates over to England to see what parts of the newer English youth coaching methods they could take back with them to the Netherlands, which is obviously a drastic turnaround from the usual situation.

This would leave Ireland in an even bigger ****ter than currently.

Felexicon

dsmythy wrote: »

This would leave Ireland in an even bigger ****ter than currently.

How so? There is far too much importance put on results at underage level.
Both on the kids and on the manager.
This approach focuses on skill and enjoyment.

The_Kew_Tour

dsmythy wrote: »

This would leave Ireland in an even bigger ****ter than currently.

This is what lot of Spanish schoolboy football is doing!!!!!

homerjay2005

CiaranC wrote: »

More people play football than all the gaelic sports combined. Participation is not the problem, nor is the quality of coaching. The problems are structural.

GAA is still the national sport of this country and that will never change. im talking mindset, supporting, money, infrastructure, its just bred into people from an early age but the same cannot be said about soccer.

as regards participation, do you not think that due to our smaller population and multiple games, that the quality and skill levels are being diluted by playing multiple sports?

i played football, hurling, soccer and rugby when i was in school with football and soccer at a decent level but i wasnt able to pass the ball comfortably and didnt develop my shooting until i was 18 or 19, when it just happened i had stopped playing rugby and hurling completely and was no longer playing GAA 5 nights a week.

dsmythy

The_Kew_Tour wrote: »

dsmythy wrote: »

This would leave Ireland in an even bigger ****ter than currently.

This is what lot of Spanish schoolboy football is doing!!!!!

I meant if they successfully implemented it while we didn't the flood of Irish talent to England would get worse as we are left behind.

Brain Stroking

stovelid wrote: »

No. I like seeing the national team do well but I stopped going to Ireland games after the 2010 qualifiers. Only football trips abroad I do now is to see my club.

Not knocking the long-term Irish fans that went over by the way.

Why knock the ones that arent long-term Irish fans? Disagree with their choice of holiday?

Felexicon

stovelid wrote: »

Not knocking the long-term Irish fans that went over by the way.

Attention people of Ireland. Applications for new national team supporters has now closed. Please note only those with proof of 20 years support can now attend away games.

As a side note we ask you to continue living your lives under a grey cloud. Any hint of happiness will be dealt with accordingly

CiaranC

bren2001 wrote: »

CiaranC wrote: »

More people play football than all the gaelic sports combined. Participation is not the problem, nor is the quality of coaching. The problems are structural.

Thats not the case in Dublin anyway.

Source?

stovelid

Brain Stroking wrote: »

Why knock the ones that arent long-term Irish fans? Disagree with their choice of holiday?

If you start crying when you see people making comments you don't agree with, it may be the wrong forum, for you. In fact, it may be the wrong sport for you.

Felexicon

stovelid wrote: »

If you start crying when you see people making comments you don't agree with, it may be the wrong forum, for you. In fact, it may be the wrong sport for you.

He's not really crying about it is he? Well not as much as you are anyway. I've seen you posting about the BFITW in multiple threads here. Let it go brother it's meaningless. Maybe if you put all of this time into your local team you could help raise some much need cash for them

stovelid

Felexicon wrote: »

Maybe if you put all of this time into your local team you could help raise some much need cash for them

Will do "brother".

Felexicon

stovelid wrote: »

Will do "brother".

Why do you let everything get to you? I could have said brother,mate,pal anything really it's just what I say. It's not like I think you're my real brother. What's it like to be so angry at this hour of the morning?

stovelid

Felexicon wrote: »

What's it like to be so angry at this hour of the morning?

Pretty good.

Hard Worker

Felexicon wrote: »

Why do you let everything get to you? I could have said brother,mate,pal anything really it's just what I say. It's not like I think you're my real brother. What's it like to be so angry at this hour of the morning?

Sad, smart alicky post.
By the way, stovelid puts plenty of time into supporting his local club and in supporting local football on this forum.

Soups123

Hard Worker wrote: »

Felexicon wrote: »

Why do you let everything get to you? I could have said brother,mate,pal anything really it's just what I say. It's not like I think you're my real brother. What's it like to be so angry at this hour of the morning?

Sad, smart alicky post.
By the way, stovelid puts plenty of time into supporting his local club and in supporting local football on this forum.

Sad, smart alicky post, it might be but a lick arsey one is worse

Felexicon

Hard Worker wrote: »

Sad, smart alicky post.
By the way, stovelid puts plenty of time into supporting his local club and in supporting local football on this forum.

Oh I'm sorry are we not allowed to disagree with your best friend?
Jog on lad, it's clear stovelid has the balls to stand up for himself

monkey9

It's honestly unbelieveable how this thread is still going!! The begrudgery against a load of Irish going abroad and enjoying themselves is off the scale.

Zebra3

homerjay2005 wrote: »

GAA is still the national sport of this country

There is no such thing as a national sport in Ireland despite what the propaganda department on Jones Road spews out.

In anyway, GAA isn't an actual sport, it's an organisation that organises several different sports.