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Snugglebuggle

A result of taking protein supplements + a high protein diet + a few drinks at the weekend and yes, it is.

shizz

Snugglebuggle wrote: »

A result of taking protein supplements + a high protein diet + a few drinks at the weekend and yes, it is.

I presume you are getting all of this info from detailed studies you've done right?

Gummy Panda

Snugglebuggle wrote: »

A result of taking protein supplements + a high protein diet + a few drinks at the weekend and yes, it is.

It doesn't. There is no scientific evidence of whey or high protein diets causing kidney issues in a healthy resistance trained person.

Shryke

shizz wrote: »

I for one think it is. I'm sure many can agree. Download his free book and have a read through it. Even at some of the success stories.

Thanks man. I just downloaded it. My routine is fast and loose so I don't have anything to lose by giving it a go. I like the sound of it. No BS.

arse..biscuits

Snugglebuggle wrote: »

Ingesting excessive amounts of creatine or protein, or anything for that matter, is definitely not good for you. Excessive amounts of protein, for example, will eventually lead to kidney failure. It's actually pretty common among men who take those powdered 'supplements' over long periods of time.

Proof please.

arse..biscuits

Shryke wrote: »

I just had a peek at that Strong Lifts website.
Is the program on show really worth a look in?

I'm doing it about 3 months now. Breaking personal records every week. I really like it.
Do as the program says, start light and increase weight each session

Mike87

Just to be clear on this. Seems a lot of people are slating natty building.

Natural isnt defined by what our country says is and isnt legal.

Natural as far as we are concerned is defined as what you would eat according to nature.

As in, you'll always be able to get fresh meat and fresh eggs. But something like whey? Where does the average person go for a few scoops of that if your living in say, some African tribe.

Natural body building will work. It just takes that bit more work and effort. But it can be done. And trust me, you'll be all the happier for it in the end.

Of course, if your looking to bulk up like Phil Heath then yeh, your probably not going to get very far without some supps.

shizz

arse..biscuits wrote: »

I'm doing it about 3 months now. Breaking personal records every week. I really like it.
Do as the program says, start light and increase weight each session

I find that I only really improved quickly in the squats and deadlift. My arms are still too weak for everything else. They've gotten bigger alright but still not improving quickly on the arm exercises.

arse..biscuits

Mike87 wrote: »

As in, you'll always be able to get fresh meat and fresh eggs. But something like whey? Where does the average person go for a few scoops of that if your living in say, some African tribe.

The local cheese maker

arse..biscuits

shizz wrote: »

arse..biscuits wrote: »

I'm doing it about 3 months now. Breaking personal records every week. I really like it.
Do as the program says, start light and increase weight each session

I find that I only really improved quickly in the squats and deadlift. My arms are still too weak for everything else. They've gotten bigger alright but still not improving quickly on the arm exercises.

Maybe your legs were under trained before you began, so they had more room to improve.

shizz

arse..biscuits wrote: »

Maybe your legs were under trained before you began, so they had more room to improve.

Know I'd defo say the other way around. Or at least they were both as bad as each other haha

Snugglebuggle

One of the academic journal articles I recently read was about a study on children and the effect of excessive protein intake on kidney function. This study showed that children with below average and average protein intake showed similar levels of healthy kidney function and average sized kidneys. In comparison, children with higher protein diets had larger kidneys. Smaller kidneys usually mean kidney disease. Larger kidneys mean that damage is occurring and will continue to occur over time. Average kidneys mean healthy kidneys, usually. When children who had larger kidneys had their protein intake reduced to average, their kidneys shrank back to average size and showed no evidence of damage occurring. I'm currently studying something unrelated to this but I have had to read a dozen academic articles on protein and kidney damage recently. I can't link to academic articles but I can give you any number of these examples that you would like. This is just one example, there are a good few more that involve adults.

validusername1

go live at mcdonald's
skinny problem = sorted

shizz

validusername1 wrote: »

go live at mcdonald's
skinny problem = sorted

heart/liver problems = LOADS