Manchester United Talk/Gossip/Rumours Thread 11/12

Eathrin

The thought crosses my mind every so often...I would just love it of Anderson fulfilled his potential. He could be such a player for us, but his days look limited.

Also, exactly where in the midfield do you guys see Cleverley playing in the future?

The_Kew_Tour

I think Anderson will be gone by end of August. Just a gut feeling I have.

If or when Berba leaves it will be interesting to see if he buys striker, and what role will Powell play.

Eathrin

Eathrin wrote: »

The thought crosses my mind every so often...I would just love it of Anderson fulfilled his potential. He could be such a player for us, but his days look limited.

Also, exactly where in the midfield do you guys see Cleverley playing in the future?

I'd say Cleverley would be similar to Scholes but his own version of it. Playing a bit further forward more often than Scholes does now. He can really turn on the one touch football with the front lads sometimes. He was unlucky with injuries last year as a lot were impact related ones.

kryogen

Kinda hard to say with Clev, he could probably play in a 2 man midfield with a good ball winner beside him, don't think I would trust him other then that, even though we played some great attacking football at the beginning of last season, we were far too open defensively.

The_Kew_Tour

kryogen wrote: »

Kinda hard to say with Clev, he could probably play in a 2 man midfield with a good ball winner beside him, don't think I would trust him other then that, even though we played some great attacking football at the beginning of last season, we were far too open defensively.

Still though when you can put 8 past Arsenal for fun you dont have worry about defense.:p

I know your right though.

Was still just nice to see us pass the ball freely, but it all disappeared once we played Stoke away in late September last year.

The_Kew_Tour

The_Kew_Tour wrote: »

I think Anderson will be gone by end of August. Just a gut feeling I have.

If or when Berba leaves it will be interesting to see if he buys striker, and what role will Powell play.

I doubt it, he's been injured too often for other teams to think buying him would be a good idea IMO. Utd wouldn't get enough money for him so they'd rather keep him and see if he can come good injury wise than sell him for less than he's worth. He cost somewhere between €16m and €20m depending on what source you believe and there is no chance we'd get that for him now.

The_Kew_Tour

Sacramento wrote: »

I doubt it, he's been injured too often for other teams to think buying him would be a good idea IMO. Utd wouldn't get enough money for him so they'd rather keep him and see if he can come good injury wise than sell him for less than he's worth. He cost somewhere between €16m and €20m depending on what source you believe and there is no chance we'd get that for him now.

Ya, hear ya. I just think we might need to sell to buy and Anderson might fall into that category. We wont get much, but would not be first time we have made poor loss on player.

I was Anderson biggest optimist before start of last season.

The_Kew_Tour

The_Kew_Tour wrote: »

Ya, hear ya. I just think we might need to sell to buy and Anderson might fall into that category. We wont get much, but would not be first time we have made poor loss on player.

I was Anderson biggest optimist before start of last season.

Well this is almost definitely bull but I found this story while looking up transfer rumours:

"18/6/2012: Portuguese newspaper Correio da Manha claims United are trying to buy James Rodriguez, the Porto winger. It's suggested the Reds are willing to include Anderson in the negotiations and the Colombian is being valued in the €30million bracket."

Link

Eathrin

Every time I see Anderson take to the pitch I am optimistic, he has shown before that he can be brilliant.

nicklauski

As has been said. Rooney supported by nani kagawa Valencia would be first choice for me.

Young, Welbz, Cleverley and Chico could easily come in for some of those players too.

homerjay2005

lads whats the story with Pogba, anything official?

Schism

homerjay2005 wrote: »

lads whats the story with Pogba, anything official?

There's nothing official yet but he's expected to sign a contract with Juve at the start of next month.

Jax Teller

Schism wrote: »

There's nothing official yet but he's expected to sign a contract with Juve at the start of next month.

And then go on loan to Udinese apparently

The_Kew_Tour

Sacramento wrote: »

Well this is almost definitely bull but I found this story while looking up transfer rumours:

"18/6/2012: Portuguese newspaper Correio da Manha claims United are trying to buy James Rodriguez, the Porto winger. It's suggested the Reds are willing to include Anderson in the negotiations and the Colombian is being valued in the €30million bracket."

Link

Saw that story too. Hope it does not come about cause if it does then it would mean Nani has or will be sold(if reports are to be believed)

Then again Fergie likes to buy the odd winger or 5.:pac:

TheTownie

homerjay2005 wrote: »

lads whats the story with Pogba, anything official?

The only thing I've heard recently are the rumours Juve aren't willing to pay the 300,000 compensation Utd are looking for. Apparently willing to let whatever committee that decides these things come up with a figure.

Schism

Coletrickle88 wrote: »

And then go on loan to Udinese apparently

Yep, but it's all hear say. Nothing down on paper yet.

Eathrin

Has Bébé been sold yet?

Cantona's Collars

Eathrin wrote: »

Every time I see Anderson take to the pitch I am optimistic, he has shown before that he can be brilliant.

I remember that game:)

Good news from the new tv rights,United are to earn an extra £26.5 million from the deal,they'll now get £86.8 Million for the duration of the new deal signed by the FA & the tv companies.

homerjay2005

Eathrin wrote: »

Has Bébé been sold yet?

your very unlikely to sell a player who has just done his cruciate and has only played 1 or 2 games since....

the deal to Turkey fell through as he went on the lash, but probably it was the first excuse they could find to get rid of him.

DM_7

Eathrin wrote: »

Has Bébé been sold yet?

No, he was injured during his loan move, had a cruciate injury.Still a United player

Eathrin

zerks wrote: »

I remember that game:)

Good news from the new tv rights,United are to earn an extra £26.5 million from the deal,they'll now get £86.8 Million for the duration of the new deal signed by the FA & the tv companies.

Is that all they get? It's a lot of money, I know, but Sky alone paid £3bn. If all clubs were paid the same amount as Utd that's still a hell of a lot of money going directly to the FA.

Orando Broom

Eathrin wrote: »

Is that all they get? It's a lot of money, I know, but Sky alone paid £3bn. If all clubs were paid the same amount as Utd that's still a hell of a lot of money going directly to the FA.

Is the 3bn not over a number of years? Is the 86m annual or multi annual?

Edit:saw Zerks post. That is multi annual? Confirmed?

Cantona's Collars

Some heavy reading but this explains the spreading of the wealth from tv rights,plus the overseas rights money still has to be added on.

http://swissramble.blogspot.in/2012/06/in-premier-league-sun-always-shines-on.html

The_Kew_Tour

The_Kew_Tour wrote: »

Saw that story too. Hope it does not come about cause if it does then it would mean Nani has or will be sold(if reports are to be believed)

Then again Fergie likes to buy the odd winger or 5.:pac:

Well ideally I think it's good to have 2 players competing for each position and that would leave us with 4 wingers altogether which would be grand. However, selling a central midfielder is not what we should be doing now. Not that this is even going to happen anyway! :pac:

kryogen

DM-ICE wrote: »

No, he was injured during his loan move, had a cruciate injury.Still a United player

Poised, ready to strike and set the Premier League on fire with his silky skillz!

kryogen

kryogen wrote: »

Poised, ready to strike and set the Premier League on fire with his silky skillz!

Oh yes, BRING IT ON!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sHyeRiIEK0M

Eathrin

Sacramento wrote: »

Oh yes, BRING IT ON!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sHyeRiIEK0M

Christ, I never saw that game, that is just woeful stuff. He shouldn't even be in league 2.

kryogen

zerks wrote: »

Some heavy reading but this explains the spreading of the wealth from tv rights,plus the overseas rights money still has to be added on.

http://swissramble.blogspot.in/2012/06/in-premier-league-sun-always-shines-on.html

Cheers, enjoyed that

(yes Im a nerd)

kryogen

He actually does have a lot of raw potential, never going to be a united player, but hopefully he will get some sort of decent career out of it

FutureGuy

Eathrin wrote: »

Sacramento wrote: »

Oh yes, BRING IT ON!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sHyeRiIEK0M

Christ, I never saw that game, that is just woeful stuff. He shouldn't even be in league 2.

I feel very very sorry for Bebe. However, Its hilarious that all those crosses were in the same match.

Orando Broom

FutureGuy wrote: »

I feel very very sorry for Bebe. However, Its hilarious that all those crosses were in the same match.

I do too. I believe he posts here as Felixicon.

Jimmy Iovine

Sacramento wrote: »

Oh yes, BRING IT ON!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sHyeRiIEK0M

Can't help but feel sorry for him. He should never have been signed by Fergie, especially with almost no knowledge of whether or not he was any good. Hopefully he can recover from his injury and make a bit of money for himself.

titan18

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tubdI5lEry8

Tbf, he's also done this at reserve level. Can't judge him just on a really bad crossing display

Orando Broom

Jimmy Iovine wrote: »

Can't help but feel sorry for him. He should never have been signed by Fergie, especially with almost no knowledge of whether or not he was any good. Hopefully he can recover from his injury and make a bit of money for himself.

I hope he has a big fat United contract and sits it out Bogarde style! It was disgusting the way he was treated just to placate Jorge Mendes by the looks of it. Urgh. Unseemly.

Eathrin

I actually never really read much about the Mendes business, was he getting huge bonuses from it or something?

Professey Chin

He actually does have a rocket of a shot on him. Just never showed much else

The_Kew_Tour

Bebe=Darren Gibson.

Jimmy Iovine

The_Kew_Tour wrote: »

Bebe=Darren Gibson.

To be fair to Gibson (and unfair to Bebe) he hasn't lost a game in the Premier League since April 3rd 2010. I knew we were in for a rough time when I saw him named in the Everton team against us for that 4-4 game in April. He is the most unlikely of good-luck charms.

Cantona's Collars

kryogen wrote: »

Cheers, enjoyed that

(yes Im a nerd)

You & Mitch must team up to go & see the new Batman movie (he came out of the Nerd closet in the Film forum)
http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showpost.php?p=79309482&postcount=3037

The_Kew_Tour

Jimmy Iovine wrote: »

To be fair to Gibson (and unfair to Bebe) he hasn't lost a game in the Premier League since April 3rd 2010. I knew we were in for a rough time when I saw him named in the Everton team against us for that 4-4 game in April. He is the most unlikely of good-luck charms.

twas more tongue in cheek comment, but agree with you.

Gibson is good player, just not United standard.

Wish he was on pitch for Irish games, least he can pass freaking ball.:(

Eathrin

Jimmy Iovine wrote: »

To be fair to Gibson (and unfair to Bebe) he hasn't lost a game in the Premier League since April 3rd 2010. I knew we were in for a rough time when I saw him named in the Everton team against us for that 4-4 game in April. He is the most unlikely of good-luck charms.

Did anybody tell this to Trappatoni:pac:

Samich

titan18 wrote: »

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tubdI5lEry8

Tbf, he's also done this at reserve level. Can't judge him just on a really bad crossing display

A young Gary Neville in that vid :pac:

Mr.Crinklewood

zerks wrote: »

You & Mitch must team up to go & see the new Batman movie (he came out of the Nerd closet in the Film forum)
http://m.boards.ie/vbulletin/showpost.php?p=79309482&postcount=3037

****, read that as "Bateman movie"

"When one mans obsession..."

Kylo Ren

Mr.Crinklewood wrote: »

****, read that as "Bateman movie"

"When one mans obsession..."

"In a world where trolls are forced underground...."

Eathrin

Any word on Lindegaard's intentions to stay or leave?

kryogen

zerks wrote: »

You & Mitch must team up to go & see the new Batman movie (he came out of the Nerd closet in the Film forum)
http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showpost.php?p=79309482&postcount=3037

Cannot frickin wait!!!!!!!!!!!!!

kryogen

Eathrin wrote: »

Any word on Lindegaard's intentions to stay or leave?

Havent heard anything to suggest he will leave, he seems to be happy at the club, he will not be happy to be back up though of course, but while he is here he is pretty good backup.

Can see him going in a year or maybe two, but not this year anyway, PIG is gone so we need him anyway

Fenix

Bebe's crossing was awful alright but to be fair to him, he probably would have done a bit better if he wasn't played out position... Just waiting for Shinji to line out at RB this season

More rumours of Berbs to Malaga being close, I'll shed a lil tear when he goes

Jimmy Iovine

The_Kew_Tour wrote: »

twas more tongue in cheek comment, but agree with you.

Gibson is good player, just not United standard.

Wish he was on pitch for Irish games, least he can pass freaking ball.:(

Yea he can pass it alright. If he reined in his excessive shooting and passed it to someone in a better position then he'd be a great player. He's only 24. Hopefully he'll be at the heart of the Irish midfield for the next while. Twice the player that Glen Whelan is.

Eathrin wrote: »

Did anybody tell this to Trappatoni:pac:

Unfortunately it's only league form. His record in other competitions is dismal :pac:.

Eathrin

kryogen wrote: »

Havent heard anything to suggest he will leave, he seems to be happy at the club, he will not be happy to be back up though of course, but while he is here he is pretty good backup.

Can see him going in a year or maybe two, but not this year anyway, PIG is gone so we need him anyway

Of course we're spoilt to have him as a sub keeper. But he is quality, and you have to think that sort of keeper is going to seek game time. While we have him, I'm delighted.:)