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Manchester United Talk/Gossip/Rumours Thread 11/12
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He has to be gone. If he's at Utd next season I would be shocked.
EDIT: according to the indo, Fergie said he is gone - http://www.independent.ie/sport/soccer/alex-ferguson-accuses-paul-pogba-of-showing-no-respect-to-manchester-united-as-he-leaves-for-juventus-3158765.html
He's gone. The funny thing is that he hasn't a chance of breaking into Juventus' team at all unless Vidal, Marchisio, Pirlo and Asamoah get injured. Juve have much better CM options than us.
Also Gazzetta are reporting than Inter are going to buy Lucas!0 -
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Copper_pipe wrote: »Fergus has said that the back 4 for the rest of pre season will be Jones, vidic, Rio and evra
I think maybe we are rushing Vidic as he only started training 2 or 3 weeks back. Also we don't have many options in the CB dept with Smalling, Evans injured and Rio may get few games banned, so we are trying everything we could to get Vidic back for the start of the season.
We have superb CBs and depth but everytime I feel we lack the depth because of injuries.
How can a team which has 4 good CBs and 1 very good prospect play its best CM as CB is beyond me. Our luck with injuries is a joke. 0 -
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Ix Deadmau5 wrote: »Its too big for a sig, but I like making pictures.
whats the photo of?
you're photoshop skills are terrific0 -
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As if it matters if young player was better than the player you want to buy or Chelsea try to give young player any chances. :pac:
It was just a joke, before someone post some stats.
nice dig, but not what i meant at all though
Now you are offically broke, can you afford to buy any new players at all?
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Sgt Pepper 64 wrote: »nice dig, but not what i meant at all though
Now you are offically broke, can you afford to buy any new players at all?
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Paul Tergat wrote: »
Trying to be funny. I'll wager it was him who put that tag in the thread too about being broke.0 -
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So far we have been strongly linked with big circa 30m moves for both Hazard and Moura. it's clear imo that Fergie doesn't want to spend big on the centre of the field. He must have plans to move away from th 4-4-2 long term.
You would have to imagine if Utd stumped up a 30m bid for the likes of Martinez or Sahin(ok less maybe than 30m in his case) that those players and their clubs would seriously consider the moves. I don't think Fergie wants centre mids like these anymore.
I think for the vast majority of games next season Fergie Is looking at a midfield 3 of Carrick and whatever other 2 are on form.
Imo Our biggest problem last year was an inability to retain useful possession in midfield. A midfield trio of Carrick protecting the back 4, Kagawa feeding the front 3 and contributing directly in attacks himself along with Cleverley/Ando in the centre keeping the ball moving forward is what we will be seeing this season.
If I'm honest I think it has a lot of potential but it doesn't have a plan B. I still think signing an all rounder ala Martinez/Sahin or to a slightly lesser extent Fellaini would give us the added option of playing a genuine 4-4-2 should we need to.
If we are going with a 4-2-3-1 my main worries would be Valencia having to play too narrow a role to get the best out of him and Kagawa having to play as an attacking midfielder instead of what he's clearly born to do and that's play as a number 10.
This season will be interesting if nothing else:)
I'd agree with a permanent move from 4-4-2, it's long overdue and just doesn't cut it against European teams, fine for England where the majority play it but not elsewhere.
Wrt to the two that would sit in midfield as part of a 4-2-3-1, I'd still prefer us to buy someone to play beside Carrick as neither Ando or Clevs are guaranteed to stay fit or more importantly perform consistently. It would've been nice to know a year on where exactly Cleverly is but we still don't know a huge amount more about him to say if those few good performances last August are the exception or the rule. I don't think we can afford to wait on him or Ando any longer either and so for any eventual formation a CM is a must, the type of which will just be decided upon what Fergie's actual first choice system is going to be.
But sadly at them moment I'm like what a few here have already said, we're getting closer to Fergie saying 'we looked at a few but couldn't find any value in the market' 0 -
But sadly at them moment I'm like what a few here have already said, we're getting closer to Fergie saying 'we looked at a few but couldn't find any value in the market'
This is the worry.
On another note....
I think everyone realises the glazers are only looking to make as much money for themselves from Utd as possible; they obviously have no real attach,ent to the club other than its capacity as a business to generate money. Let's be honest, Fergie can't stay in the job forever despite him saying as long as his health is good he'll keep going. Also, I'm sure the glazers have an idea of roughly when he will retire.
With this in mind, is it not in the glazers financial interest to sell the club before he retires because I can only imagine the club is a less attractive prospect without Alex Ferguson?
At the moment th club has what £350m or so debt outstanding? If over th next 2 years through whatever means the Glazers manage to pull the debt down to £300m, I wonder will they just decide to sell to the highest bidder?0 -
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