Manchester United Talk/Gossip/Rumours Thread 11/12

Giggsy11

FutureGuy wrote: »

That's the problem though...can we really? If a world class player is available for 40m, then Madrid, Barcelona, Chelsea, City and PSG will all be in contention for him and we are rarely going to be that players first choice, regardless of the history of our club. Just look at Eden "I require a great manager, a good youth development structure, a...what a minute, how much per week? Forget what I just said, I'll see you Monday!" Hazard.

A sad fact, but one we need to remember when looking at talent.

I would say we can. I know I'm repeating it, Vidal didn't go for any of the team you mentioned and he is one of the best Midfielder at what he does.

If not world class player, at least a player who can cover the hole we have in the squad, not someone who plays in a postion where we have best in the league (wingers).

We can improve our squad with the 38Million easily. And yes I got it where you are coming from, but there are quality players we can get for that sum.

FutureGuy

Giggsy11 wrote: »

I would say we can. I know I'm repeating it, Vidal didn't go for any of the team you mentioned and he is one of the best Midfielder at what he does.

If not world class player, at least a player who can cover the hole we have in the squad, not someone who plays in a postion where we have best in the league (wingers).

We can improve our squad with the 38Million easily. And yes I got it where you are coming from, but there are quality players we can get for that sum.

Yes agreed on the plural, we can do wonders with our squad with that money by buying 2 or 3 players. I just don't think we can challenge for the big marquee (sic?) signing.

Cantona's Collars

Mutv is free to view today from 4pm to 6.50pm,of course the game is encrypted.This is on Sky,dunno about upc.

Quandary

zerks wrote: »

Mutv is free to view today from 4pm to 6.50pm,of course the game is encrypted.

Liveonlinefooty really comes into its own at kick off time :pac:

Shane St.

what time does the game KO at tonight?? Looking forward to finally seeing Kagawa in the Utd shirt, maybe one of the young lads will impress like Cleverley did last year

wheres me jumpa

Shane St. wrote: »

what time does the game KO at tonight?? Looking forward to finally seeing Kagawa in the Utd shirt, maybe one of the young lads will impress like Cleverley did last year

1900 i believe.

wheres me jumpa

zerks wrote: »

Mutv is free to view today from 4pm to 6.50pm,of course the game is encrypted.This is on Sky,dunno about upc.

Is MUTV worth the moola? Considering getting it in.

Giggsy11

FutureGuy wrote: »

Yes agreed on the plural, we can do wonders with our squad with that money by buying 2 or 3 players. I just don't think we can challenge for the big marquee (sic?) signing.

Yeah agreed with what you are saying, like if we go for a star player then Madrid, Barca, City will surely go for him.

But the main point is your first point. Not only squad, we can improve our first 11 also.

fish fingers

wheres me jumpa wrote: »

Is MUTV worth the moola? Considering getting it in.

I have it and the only time I use it is for pre season and maybe to watch a repeat of a champions league game because I work evenings.
I would say don't bother and just stream.

homerjay2005

didnt realise this was true, but i would believe it..

‎2 - Manchester United (8 games) & Newcastle (15 games) were the only two teams not to win from a losing position in 2011-12. [opta]

so the 8 times we went behind last year, we didnt win. in years gone by, we would dig out results with late surges and last year, we just didnt look like doing that at all.

wigan, blackburn everton were all games we went behind in and dropped points that we shouldnt be dropping.

i guess the other 5 were liverpool, city x 2, chelsea and newcasle away.

have we lost the killer touch with finishing teams off?

Felexicon

homerjay2005 wrote: »

didnt realise this was true, but i would believe it..



so the 8 times we went behind last year, we didnt win. in years gone by, we would dig out results with late surges and last year, we just didnt look like doing that at all.

wigan, blackburn everton were all games we went behind in and dropped points that we shouldnt be dropping.

i guess the other 5 were liverpool, city x 2, chelsea and newcasle away.

have we lost the killer touch with finishing teams off?

No

SK1979

IIRC the game kicks off at 19:12 for some strange reason later on.

Interesting stat there Homer, it is surprising that we didn't win a game from behind. Must be the first season in a long long time. The closest (that comes to mind) is the Chelsea game I guess.

That wouldn't worry me too much though, what annoys me is the amount of points we dropped from winning positions, surely that stat must be amongst our worst ever. :mad:

aperture_nuig

Any Chance of a match thread lads?

Felexicon

aperture_nuig wrote: »

Any Chance of a match thread lads?

Why not a thread to cover all pre season games. It will stop here getting clogged up with us all fapping over Kagawa

Professional Griefer

Already started. He'll be glorious tonight bless him.

caffrey

homerjay2005 wrote: »

didnt realise this was true, but i would believe it..



so the 8 times we went behind last year, we didnt win. in years gone by, we would dig out results with late surges and last year, we just didnt look like doing that at all.

wigan, blackburn everton were all games we went behind in and dropped points that we shouldnt be dropping.

i guess the other 5 were liverpool, city x 2, chelsea and newcasle away.

have we lost the killer touch with finishing teams off?

Stats are alright and all that but norwich drew level in the 83rd min and we got a goal back in 93 to win it, we weren't in a losing pos but considering we came second with so many points it just shows we weren't in losing positions often.

Pj!

Was just looking through the transfer history of Man United and decided to compare it to Man City's since the Abu Dhabi United Group purchased them in 08.

Man Uniteds net transfer total: £34,150,000
Man City's net transfer total: £382,150,000

:eek:

• I used transferleague.co.uk
• Yes I know Man Utd sold Ronaldo in that time

Felexicon

Pj! wrote: »

Was just looking through the transfer history of Man United and decided to compare it to Man City's since the Abu Dhabi United Group purchased them in 08.

Man Uniteds net transfer total: £34,150,000
Man City's net transfer total: £382,150,000

:eek:

• I used transferleague.co.uk
• Yes I know Man Utd sold Ronaldo in that time

Don't really see what you're getting at here. Obviously they had to spend massive amounts to become competitive. We were already front runners in the league so didn't have to invest in a completely new squad

Pj!

Felexicon wrote: »

Don't really see what you're getting at here. Obviously they had to spend massive amounts to become competitive. We were already front runners in the league so didn't have to invest in a completely new squad

I'm not getting at anything. Just posting it up for interest.

You're gonna blow your top soon though, I'm going to post Arsenal's and Chelsea's too.


Bloody hormonal in here.

Pj!

Just to add in a couple of more teams.

Man City's net transfer total: £382,150,000
Chelsea's net transfer total: £190,700,000 (+£25,000,000 Oscar taking medical)
Liverpools net transfer total: £36,800,000
Man Uniteds net transfer total: £34,150,000
Arsenal's net transfer total: -£21,800,000

• I used transferleague.co.uk
• Since City got rich

Felexicon

Pj! wrote: »

I'm not getting at anything. Just posting it up for interest.

You're gonna blow your top soon though, I'm going to post Arsenal's and Chelsea's too.


Bloody hormonal in here.

No no, I wasn't having a go at you, I was just wondering if you were going to use the stat as some pointer of the direction the 2 teams are taking or something.

Clearly you just posted it as a "that's some amount of money" post though.

Not hormonal just trying to clarify context.


bloody sensitive in here

Schism

Wenger should be in charge of Ireland's finances turning a profit like that at Arsenal. Guess it points to why they haven't been winning much lately.

Al Capwned

Net spend - possibly the single most annoying statistic produced....
Ever.

Pro. F

homerjay2005 wrote: »

didnt realise this was true, but i would believe it..

so the 8 times we went behind last year, we didnt win. in years gone by, we would dig out results with late surges and last year, we just didnt look like doing that at all.

wigan, blackburn everton were all games we went behind in and dropped points that we shouldnt be dropping.

i guess the other 5 were liverpool, city x 2, chelsea and newcasle away.

have we lost the killer touch with finishing teams off?

Imo it was the problems in the Scholes position that really contributed to this stat. Scholes contributed a lot when he came back, but he could only give it about 60 minutes each game, so was usually missing whenever the big push was needed late on in games. Giggs isn't a very good creative central midfielder. Cleverley was injured for the majority of the season and then out of favour. Anderson had his injury too.

Hopefully this season Cleverley and Anderson can get better runs of fitness and Fergie has forgiven Cleverley for whatever he did. Powell will hopefully be as good as he used to look on the football league show highlights. And then Scholes will only be needed for a the odd game and sub appearance.

Giggsy11

Just one more post on Suarez bit, few good replies by Hamann

Didi Hamann ‏@DietmarHamann

Suarez is not doing himself any favours with todays statement he should leave it now move on and concentrate on his football

I've not got a problem if he talks about his feelings and what he went through but he should leave Man United out

Rooney got banned for swearing into a camera so much for the conspiracy ...I think everybody needs to relax a little bit

That Suarez case was handled pathetically by LFC hope BR puts a lid on straight away as it cost the club a lot of points last season

Sorry for bringing it up again, but the tweet about Rooney hits the nail on the head. Spot on.

Kylo Ren

I read all of those tweets in Didi's voice. Good times.

homerjay2005

Felexicon wrote: »

No

added to those 8 games and then draws against the likes of stoke and newcastle, we have very limp home performances against wigan, swansea, fulham, QPR, Norwich . away wins at Everton, Villa, Swansea and a few more were also pretty awful to watch.

and lets not talk about the european games or Palace at home.

i think this is the reason Fergie is going after pace and flair players such as Hazard and Lucas, he believes the league was lost due to us not being as flent in attack as other years and lacking the killer instinct. he probably believes that this shouldnt come from CM, but from width and in attack and perhaps a player ala Cantona and Ronaldo who had a free reign to do as they please in alot of games.

Pro. F

homerjay2005 wrote: »

added to those 8 games and then draws against the likes of stoke and newcastle, we have very limp home performances against wigan, swansea, fulham, QPR, Norwich . away wins at Everton, Villa, Swansea and a few more were also pretty awful to watch.

and lets not talk about the european games or Palace at home.

i think this is the reason Fergie is going after pace and flair players such as Hazard and Lucas, he believes the league was lost due to us not being as flent in attack as other years and lacking the killer instinct. he probably believes that this shouldnt come from CM, but from width and in attack and perhaps a player ala Cantona and Ronaldo who had a free reign to do as they please in alot of games.

I think that probably is exactly how his mind is working, assuming that it's true he really was after Hazaard and Lucas even though he already had Kagawa.
If that is true, he is just plain wrong imo. It's so frustrating to watch this happening every summer.

caffrey

Pj! wrote: »

Just to add in a couple of more teams.

Man City's net transfer total: £382,150,000
Chelsea's net transfer total: £190,700,000 (+£25,000,000 Oscar taking medical)
Liverpools net transfer total: £36,800,000
Man Uniteds net transfer total: £34,150,000
Arsenal's net transfer total: -£21,800,000

• I used transferleague.co.uk
• Since City got rich

I think this is very interesting since we would be on a HUGE plus if it wasn't for the selling of ronaldo.

IvySlayer

MAN UTD BACK PLAYING TONIGHT

homerjay2005

Pro. F wrote: »

I think that probably is exactly how his mind is working, assuming that it's true he really was after Hazaard and Lucas even though he already had Kagawa.
If that is true, he is just plain wrong imo. It's so frustrating to watch this happening every summer.

i posted a theory i think it was yesterday, that he(Fergie) genuinly believes that the CM is sorted with 5 players plus Powell and then the others as back up.

until we sell one or scholes retires (and fletcher) i think we are not getting anybody in that field, which is sad really.

as you said, frustrating.

stesaurus

Bloody job! Pffft they would need some reports out today wouldn't they. Did they not look at the calendar and see that United are playing the 1st pre-season game tonight!!!

Will set the box to record and have to avoid this place until I get home and up to speed.

Kagawa to score at least 20 goals tonight

Jax Teller

Flash sports streams have Mutv on already on VIP 73

Kylo Ren

Coletrickle88 wrote: »

Flash sports streams have Mutv on already on VIP 73

Is that site any good?

Jimmy Iovine

I'm gonna miss the match tonight cause I've got training. Not too worried. I'll get to see the other games anyway.

fox007

Just ordered mutv there €8 for 6 games I'm happy with that pitty every game was not on mutv for €8 p/m

Professional Griefer

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nOsdS5irjAo

J. Marston

So how many goals will Kagawa score tonight? 7, maybe 8? I think 8.

tupac_healy

fox007 wrote: »

Just ordered mutv there €8 for 6 games I'm happy with that pitty every game was not on mutv for €8 p/m

€8 for 6 games ain't bad actually, thought it would be more

Will have to check out the kagawa highlights later tonight, I'm flirting dangerously close to my download limit, streaming ain't an option I'm afraid

Copper_pipe

Kagawa made Lewandowski(who is an average striker) Look unbelievable, so I can't wait to see what he does tonight with Chic and with Rooney during the season,

Mikeyt086

J. Marston wrote: »

So how many goals will Kagawa score tonight? 7, maybe 8? I think 8.

At least double digits or we will struggle to get top 4.

Mr.Crinklewood

zerks wrote: »

Mutv is free to view today from 4pm to 6.50pm,of course the game is encrypted.This is on Sky,dunno about upc.

Currently free on UPC channel 428.

Jax Teller

Copper_pipe wrote: »

Kagawa made Lewandowski(who is an average striker) Look unbelievable, so I can't wait to see what he does tonight with Chic and with Rooney during the season,

Gtfo Lewandowski is well above average .

statto25

fox007 wrote: »

Just ordered mutv there €8 for 6 games I'm happy with that pitty every game was not on mutv for €8 p/m

That's not too bad at all. Can you just cancel then after the month?

Jimmy Iovine

Starting team:

Lindegaard, Brady, Ferdinand, Veseli, Wootton, Carrick, Lingard, Scholes, Macheda, Hernandez, Berbatov

fox007

statto25 wrote: »

fox007 wrote: »

Just ordered mutv there €8 for 6 games I'm happy with that pitty every game was not on mutv for €8 p/m

That's not too bad at all. Can you just cancel then after the month?

Yep I just rang sky told them I just want a month of mutv they said no problem.He put in the cancell notification as well so in 30 days it's cancelled no need to ring up again
You must have the sports for this tho

Jax Teller

Jimmy Iovine wrote: »

Starting team:

Lindegaard, Brady, Ferdinand, Veseli, Wootton, Carrick, Lingard, Scholes, Macheda, Hernandez, Berbatov

I've seen 3 different one so far . Is that confirmed ?

3hn2givr7mx1sc

David Stowell ‏@dstowellmedia

#MUFC XI: L'gard / Veseli, Wootton, Ferdinand, Brady / Carrick, Scholes, Lingard / Berba behind Chicho & Macheda #MUTour LIVE ON #mutv

Fenix

Have to say the quality of the stream on LOF is superb, was watchin through PS3 on 42" LCD, after half an hour or so watchin Yorke bang them in, I lifted the sky remote to change channel, felt like a dumbass but its a good endorsement of the quality of thier streams. Pity there is no 720p just...

anyway, Thank **** Utd are back! Transfer muppetry was getting out of hand!

3hn2givr7mx1sc

Going from that a 4-3-3 with no wingers could be seen quite a bit this season.