Manchester United Talk/Gossip/Rumours Thread 11/12

Donnielighto

Just to be clear I wasn't having a go at kryo.

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If we are to get RvP (dont think we should) I'd like to see berba go the other way (assuming hes leaving) he'd be so silky smooth

Blatter

aperture_nuig wrote: »

Has anyone actually linked us to Moutinho or is it just a case of someone that's available that we should be in for?

We were linked alright, the most reliable source being from the Times however all speculation regarding him and United appears to have gone cold.

Tottenham were heavily linked too but are reported to have dropped out of the race due to Porto's asking price.

Blatter

Paul Hayward ‏@_PaulHayward
It's true that Manchester United fancy their chances of signing Van Persie. But they'll be wary after City's late pounce for Nasri


That's the chief sports writer of the Telegraph.

Al Capwned

The signing of Kagawa and the pursuit of Hazard and Moura would, to me, indicate Kagawa, Nani, Valencia behind Rooney as SAF's favoured line-up in the coming season.

I think the signing of van Persie contradicts this - Would this mean that van Persie would play up front, with Rooney dropping into central midfield?

I think someone posted recently here, that playing our best attacker in midfield makes no sense whatsoever, and I agree.

We dont need van Persie.

Liam O

Yeah since Headshot retired Mitch has had the crown of most posts and now the phenom Kryogen has ousted him. Someone put in a £30m bid for Kryo!

Giggsy11

I'm third on the list and No I have no hope or chance of catching Kryogen unless I pick up a nice fight with some member

FutureGuy

RVP signing is an odd one.

I don't want United to buy him at all. On the other hand, I want United to buy him. :rolleyes:

DM_7

The squad for Feb 2012 only had 22 players listed.

Kuszczak, Owen, De Leat, Park all gone. Berbatov likely to go before end of august. Thats down to 17

kag makes 18.

7 spaces left.

De Gea, Rafael, Welbeck would move into the pre jan 1st 91 category.

4 spaces left - I think!

The_Kew_Tour

We wont sign RVP.

Jimmy Iovine

homerjay2005 wrote: »

Indeed, very very strange. must be some reason united pulled out of that, as it looked to be nailed on earlier along with the Powell deal.

He wasn't nailed on to come to us for a few weeks now. He was heavily linked with West Ham for the last while. I'm surprised he didn't move there.

keane2097

United signing Van Persie would be indescribably amazing.

Fcuk your midfielders, sign him up!

Pj!

keane2097 wrote: »

United signing Van Persie would be indescribably amazing.

Fcuk your midfielders, sign him up!

It would definitely be a positive!

But I refuse to believe Utd are even in the running.

Cantona's Collars

Modric seems destined for Madrid so we can scratch him off our list,the latest on SSN is that the deal is almost done.

Fergie wants to go back to high tempo attacking but looking back we always had a lynchpin in midfield to help out ala Robson & Keane but now we have a gaping hole with Carrick sitting in a screening role in front of the back four plus when it comes to a fight in midfield he goes missing.

Blatter

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van Persie

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Rooney

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Kagawa----Anderson

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Cleverley

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Nani
Evra

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Vidic

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Smalling

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Rafael

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de Gea

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Sure van Persie and Rooney would be able to help out the midfield way more than most other strikers would. Both are number 9s and number 10s. :pac:

Jax Teller

Rvp calls himself a 9 and a half .

IamtheWalrus

It wouldn't surprise me if Utd buy Van Persie. Proven in the Prem. A year left on his contract so his few may not be ridiculous. Plus it would stop Man City buying him. Plus, he seems to be a level headed lad and career oriented so I think Fergie would like to have that type of player in his squad.

Pj!

Blatter wrote: »

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van Persie

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Rooney

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Kagawa----Anderson

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Cleverley

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Nani
Evra

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Vidic

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Smalling

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Rafael

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de Gea

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Sure van Persie and Rooney would be able to help out the midfield way more than most other strikers would. Both are number 9s and number 10s. :pac:

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Van Persie

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Rooney

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Nani

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Kagawa

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Valencia

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Scholes

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Carrick

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Smalling---Vidic---Ferdinand

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De Gea

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:pac:

Lord TSC

I'd be happy enough with our summer if we got RVP. I'd obviously love a proper midfielder brought in but after last season, the prospect of RVP in a United jersey is mouthwatering.

That said, I still dont believe we'll get him if City are in any way interested....

Giggsy11

Pj! wrote: »

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Van Persie

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Rooney

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Nani

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Kagawa

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Valencia

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Scholes

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Carrick

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Smalling---Vidic---Ferdinand

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De Gea

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:pac:

Where is our 'False' LB and 'False' RB?

IamtheWalrus

Teamshadowclan wrote: »

That said, I still dont believe we'll get him if City are in any way interested....

I think he's one of the few players who'd chose Utd over City. He's been in the Prem for years now. He knows the deal.

FutureGuy

Pj! wrote: »

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Van Persie

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Rooney

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Nani

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Kagawa

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Valencia

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Scholes

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Carrick

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Smalling---Vidic---Ferdinand

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De Gea

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:pac:

Giggsy11 wrote: »

Where is our 'False' LB and 'False' RB?

HELLOOOOOO!!!?!! FFS Do we have to spell it out for some people. :rolleyes:

Ashbourne hoop

RVP would be an amazing signing for Utd, saying that I would be amazed if it happened.

Giggsy11

FutureGuy wrote: »

HELLOOOOOO!!!?!! FFS Do we have to spell it out for some people. :rolleyes:

Excuse me for not being the brightest, I for one thought Valencia was our False RB.

Thanks for clearing it up. :pac:

Mr.Crinklewood

Coletrickle88 wrote: »

Rvp calls himself a 9 and a half .

That's because he knows he is half the player Nicky Butt was.

ScummyMan

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De Gea

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-Rafael--Smalling--Vidic--Evra
--Valencia--Carrick--Rooney---Nani

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Kagawa

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Van Persie

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Not ideal by any means, but something tells me this is the way Fergie wants to go. I wish he would just sign a CM and forget about strikers we don't need though.

Mr Alan

IamtheWalrus wrote: »

I think he's one of the few players who'd chose Utd over City. He's been in the Prem for years now. He knows the deal.

Deluded tbh.

He'd clearly choose;

1) The PL Champions
2) The club who'd pay more wages
3) The club that's full of friends/ex team-mates of his
4) The club with the better chance of honours going forward

City pip Utd on all those things

nicklauski

Saucer of milk for Mr Alan.

Me-ow!

Still though, he's right. RVP would know more of the City squad, they would pay him mahoosive wages and they are Champions.

I don't see it, and also don't want to see it happening.

If we were spunking 25m on an Arsenal player, at least make it Wilshere.

Felexicon

nicklauski wrote: »

Saucer of milk for Mr Alan.

Me-ow!

Still though, he's right. RVP would know more of the City squad, they would pay him mahoosive wages and they are Champions.

I don't see it, and also don't want to see it happening.

If we were spunking 25m on an Arsenal player, at least make it Wilshere.

:eek:

homerjay2005

Ashbourne hoop wrote: »

RVP would be an amazing signing for Utd, saying that I would be amazed if it happened.

signing any player of genuine world class thats wanted by our rivals would would amaze me, it rarely happens at united.

i assume if we got him, that would be our spending over then for the summer. would make most people happy i assume, probably means a more withdrawn role for rooney.

lets wait and see what happens, we are used to disappointments so i dont expect it to happen.

Schism

Man.UnitedLad wrote: »

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De Gea

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-Rafael--Smalling--Vidic--Evra
--Valencia--Carrick--Rooney---Nani

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Kagawa

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Van Persie

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Not ideal by any means, but something tells me this is the way Fergie wants to go. I wish he would just sign a CM and forget about strikers we don't need though.

The only reason Rooney was in midfield last season was as a stop gap, I'd imagine it's the type of thing he volunteered to do for a few games. He's our best striker, he simply has to play up top unless we're very stuck again.

Giggsy11

homerjay2005 wrote: »

signing any player of genuine world class thats wanted by our rivals would would amaze me, it rarely happens at united.

i assume if we got him, that would be our spending over then for the summer. would make most people happy i assume, probably means a more withdrawn role for rooney.

lets wait and see what happens, we are used to disappointments so i dont expect it to happen.

Not signing RVP won't be a disappointing at all, only last season he was fit for whole season before that he missed many games in every season.

Not signign CM will be disappoiting though.

Fenix

I think Valencia will be played RB quite a lot this year. Not least because Rafael picks up a niggle every 65 minutes.

MagicMarker

Fenix wrote: »

I think Valencia will be played RB quite a lot this year. Not least because Rafael picks up a niggle every 65 minutes.

Have you forgotten about Smalling and Jones?

nicklauski

Felexicon wrote: »

:eek:

Really? Do you not rate him or think the price is too much Felexicon? Genuine question, not having a pop or anything.

I think Wilshire is a cracking player, tough tackler, comfortable on the ball.
It was unfortunate that he was injured for last season, but I think if he has his injury behind him now, he'll kick on and be probably Arsenals most important player if RVP leaves.

Felexicon

MagicMarker wrote: »

Have you forgotten about Smalling and Jones?

I'd actually prefare Valencia to Smalling or Jones at RB. I just don't think thier crossing is up to scratch for a full back.

Felexicon

nicklauski wrote: »

Really? Do you not rate him or think the price is too much Felexicon? Genuine question, not having a pop or anything.

I think Wilshire is a cracking player, tough tackler, comfortable on the ball.
It was unfortunate that he was injured for last season, but I think if he has his injury behind him now, he'll kick on and be probably Arsenals most important player if RVP leaves.

I think at the moment that kind of price is a bit on the steep side considering how long it's taking him to get back from this injury. Maybe with a bit more football under his belt in a season or two that price might be justified.

I do like him as a player, I just don't think he's enough of a presence in midfield to solve our problems at the moment.

Of course he could as you say, kick on from here and this time next year or even in two months be saying he's worth 40 million

nicklauski

Take into account, he's English, selling him to one of your main rivals and I think anyone would be doing well to get him for circa 25m

Felexicon

nicklauski wrote: »

Take into account, he's English, selling him to one of your main rivals and I think anyone would be doing well to get him for circa 25m

True. If they used the same valuing system that was used for Andy Carroll he'd be woth about £217mil

MagicMarker

Felexicon wrote: »

I'd actually prefare Valencia to Smalling or Jones at RB. I just don't think thier crossing is up to scratch for a full back.

I'm usually more concerned with the quality of their defending, rather than their crosses.

Felexicon

MagicMarker wrote: »

I'm usually more concerned with the quality of their defending, rather than their crosses.

That's fine. Thier defending is of a good enough standard, I just feel that the ability to over lap and provide good crosses is an essential skill for a modern full back.

Mitch Connor

Has to be Fergie's plan....

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De Gea
Valencia-Rio--Vidic--Evra
-Cleveley-Carrick-Anderson

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Kagawa

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Rooney-Van Persie

Nani sold cause he is a contract rebel (or because we need to somewhat balance the transfers), Young being the winger who is left out - could play centrally (where I have Kagawa) or as LB in our attacking full backs providing the width formation.

Kinda like what Barca do with Alves and, now, Alba, providing the width.

Fergie... I see what you are doing...

Macca07

Mitch Connor wrote: »

Has to be Fergie's plan....

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De Gea
Valencia-Rio--Vidic--Evra
-Cleveley-Carrick-Anderson

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Kagawa

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Rooney-Van Persie

Cleverley and Ando injured in the first game and back to square one...

Fenix

MagicMarker wrote: »

Have you forgotten about Smalling and Jones?

Both of which are not full backs! I think he will play Valencia because he is good going forward, has a great cross, tracks back and will work like a trojan all day. Add to that, he is spoilt for choice in valencia's main position and is seemingly going for a much more narrow approach (less old style wingers) and yeah, I can see Valencia being regular RB. Will probably do well at that.

Mitch Connor

Macca07 wrote: »

Cleverley and Ando injured in the first game and back to square one...

Replaced by Scholes and Giggs - you can't buy experience like theirs.

Tunnicliffe and Petrucci next in line - you can't buy club mentality like theirs.

froog

Mitch Connor wrote: »

Has to be Fergie's plan....

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De Gea
Valencia-Rio--Vidic--Evra
-Cleveley-Carrick-Anderson

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Kagawa

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Rooney-Van Persie

Nani sold cause he is a contract rebel (or because we need to somewhat balance the transfers), Young being the winger who is left out - could play centrally (where I have Kagawa) or as LB in our attacking full backs providing the width formation.

Kinda like what Barca do with Alves and, now, Alba, providing the width.

Fergie... I see what you are doing...

sure stick rooney in at CB and de gea up front while you're at it.

Giggsy11

Mitch Connor wrote: »

Has to be Fergie's plan....

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De Gea
Valencia-Rio--Vidic--Evra
-Cleveley-Carrick-Anderson

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Kagawa

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Rooney-Van Persie

Nani sold cause he is a contract rebel (or because we need to somewhat balance the transfers), Young being the winger who is left out - could play centrally (where I have Kagawa) or as LB in our attacking full backs providing the width formation.

Kinda like what Barca do with Alves and, now, Alba, providing the width.

Fergie... I see what you are doing...

Will be very disappointed if we sell Nani. Now itself we are saying we don't have many players who can come up with magical moment to win the game, if we sell Nani then it's safe it say we have none

Giggsy11

froog wrote: »

sure stick rooney in at CB and de gea up front while you're at it.

Young has played behind the striker many times for England, Villa and even for us.

s_carnage

Fenix wrote: »

Both of which are not full backs! I think he will play Valencia because he is good going forward, has a great cross, tracks back and will work like a trojan all day. Add to that, he is spoilt for choice in valencia's main position and is seemingly going for a much more narrow approach (less old style wingers) and yeah, I can see Valencia being regular RB. Will probably do well at that.

Valencia might be better going forward than the two of them but aren't you forgetting one important aspect of a full backs job? Defend!!

Anytime Valencia has played right full for us he has seemed dodgy enough both position wise and especially so under high balls. The only time I think we will see Valencia there this season is if we have another awful injury run and Smalling & Jones are both out.

IvySlayer

Jesus Christ my heart jumped seeing RVP in formations. I'd love him but he's not what we need.

sReq | uTeK

I honestly can't fathom how you people on here talk such nonsense sometimes I mean sure, he's in contract NEGOTIATIONS but has he ever said he wants to leave? NO. He's said the opposite and wants to stay.

There is ZERO Interest from any club (that we know of)

Honestly..............Am I the only one who takes no notice what-so-ever of tabloid media until I hear an official release from the club, if I were to believe half the **** that was talked about we'd have sold EVERYONE this summer and have bought EVERYONE bar madonna and britney spears.

PS. Berba, you're the SMEX