Irish-born reporter interrupts Obama speech

SMASH THE UNIONS

Obama in effect is allowing illegal immigrant to stay in the US. I wouldn't tolerate this in Ireland, especially in this economic climate when thousands of natives are being forced to legally emigrate in search of work, but if the Americans want to hang their own noose...

From the BBC:

US President Barack Obama has announced an immediate end to the deportation of illegal immigrants who came to the US as children, describing the move as "the right thing to do".

Those aged between 16 and 30 who have lived in the US for five years could now be eligible for work permits.

The plan, which goes into effect immediately, is expected to affect as many as 800,000 people.

The interesting part of this story though is how an Irish-born reporter and conservative talk-show host, Neil Munro, broke decorum and rudely interrupted the President mid-speech to heckle him with questions.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cWQby2KZwfA&feature=player_embedded

You couldn't make this up! This man, born in Ireland and educated in UCD, emigrates to America and then heckles the President about other immigrants! Stay classy Ireland.

Reminds me of this other rude Irish bitch http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fze2J2Ve9is who constantly interrupted the President during an interview. It really highlights what a terrible culture of discourse we have in this country, where whoever can shout the loudest wins. The Americans have a more formal Q&A approach where both parties listen to each other and then repsond rather than talk over each other.

fasttalkerchat

couldn't make it up

Princess Consuela Bananahammock

Whats the releveance of wheer he was born?

Seanchai

SMASH THE UNIONS wrote: »

Reminds me of this other rude Irish bitch http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fze2J2Ve9is who constantly interrupted the President during an interview.

Mar dhea! Carole Coleman is a legend for that interview alone. Oh, and that idiot from a village in Texas is still an idiot.

El Weirdo

SMASH THE UNIONS wrote: »

It really highlights what a terrible culture of discourse we have in this country, where whoever can shout the loudest wins.

Says the one with the all-caps username.

SMASH THE UNIONS

Seanchai wrote: »

Mar dhea! Carole Coleman is a legend for that interview alone. Oh, and that idiot from a village in Texas is still an idiot.

You don't understand. That is not how interviews are done in America. Carol Coleman was allowed into the White House to interview President Bush and anytime he tried to answer, she spoke over him. It wasn't an interview, it was an attack.

Do you also condone Neil Munro interrupting Obama? Or do you have one set of rules for Republicans and another for Democrats?

Rasheed

Oh Jesus how embarrassing. This is the kind of thing I hate. I get that everyone had the right to free speech but some people in this country are unbelievably rude. They give everyone else a bad name.

Princess Consuela Bananahammock

SMASH THE UNIONS wrote: »

You don't understand. That is not how interviews are done in America. Carol Coleman was allowed into the White House to interview President Bush and anytime he tried to answer, she spoke over him. It wasn't an interview, it was an attack.

Do you also condone Neil Munro interrupting Obama? Or do you have one set of rules for Republicans and another for Democrats?

That's how shock interviewers work - it covers their igornace. Haven't you ever seen Bill O Reilly?

Green Diesel

Rasheed wrote: »

Oh Jesus how embarrassing. This is the kind of thing I hate. I get that everyone had the right to free speech but some people in this country are unbelievably rude. They give everyone else a bad name.

Some people in every country are rude. We're humans, some people are just jerks.

You don't have to link someones action to their appearance, and then generalise based on that trait. It's madness Ted.

Scanlas The 2nd

Seanchai wrote: »

SMASH THE UNIONS wrote: »

Reminds me of this other rude Irish bitch http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fze2J2Ve9is who constantly interrupted the President during an interview.

Mar dhea! Carole Coleman is a legend for that interview alone. Oh, and that idiot from a village in Texas is still an idiot.

No she's not a legend, she's rude, simple as that. She repeatedly interrupted his answers.

fasttalkerchat

Ikky Poo2 wrote: »

Whats the releveance of wheer he was born?

He was interupting to say hurr durr deport the foreigners.

RealistSpy

If I was the president I will revoke and deport the c**t.

donegal_road

SMASH THE UNIONS wrote: »

Reminds me of this other rude Irish bitch http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fze2J2Ve9is who constantly interrupted the President during an interview. It really highlights what a terrible culture of discourse we have in this country, where whoever can shout the loudest wins. The Americans have a more formal Q&A approach where both parties listen to each other and then repsond rather than talk over each other.

Its hard to be mannerly to someone who has the blood of 1 million innocent Iraqi men, women and children on their hands, isn't it?... or maybe they were all 'illegal combatants', as they call them

My name is URL

He's a writer for the Daily Caller, a news site so biased towards lunatics on the right that they literally have a link for free guns on their homepage.

RealistSpy

donegal_road wrote: »

Its hard to be mannerly to someone who has the blood of 1 million innocent Iraqi men, women and children on their hands, isn't it?... or maybe they were all 'illegal combatants', as they call them

Gosh I was waiting for someone to bring this up......Here we go!

SMASH THE UNIONS

Ikky Poo2 wrote: »

That's how shock interviewers work - it covers their igornace. Haven't you ever seen Bill O Reilly?

I don't understand - do you or do you not condemn Neil Munro for his rude outburst? Obama was visibly angry and that reporter will probably be banned from the White House for life. It doesn't matter how much you disagree with the President - you do not interrupt him in the middle of a formal speech in the Rose Garden. It breaks decades of decorum.

Now, if you do condemn Neil Munro for his heckling, how can you justify Carol Coleman doing the same thing to Bush? The interview was highly controversial at the time and many Americans, both Republican and Democrat, were insulted that a jumped-up gombeen reporter from Ireland would disrespect their President that way, in the White House of all places.

This is how interviews are done in America.
Clinton Vs FOX news
They take a more formal Q&A format. Both Clinton and the FOX interviewer obviously hate each other but they still allow each other to finish their sentences without interruption. Comapre this to a typical Frontline debate with drug addict Ming Flanagn shouting over scruffy tax cheat Mick Wallace. Nobody listens and nobody learns. The American format is more facilitaiting to educational discourse.

My name is URL

SMASH THE UNIONS wrote: »

Tourists come to Ireland expecting to interact with Irish people, hear the Irish accent, have the famous craic etc and instead they are faced with Nigerian taxi drivers, Pakistani shop assistants, Polish bar maids, Chinese waitresses etc etc. It's very possible to take a week long holiday and not interact with one Irish person at all. Anybody who thinks this isn't negatively affecting our tourist numbers is DELUDED.

/heckle

SMASH THE UNIONS

My name is URL wrote: »

/heckle

Do you even know what heckle means?

Logical Fallacy

SMASH THE UNIONS wrote: »

Do you even know what heckle means?

I believe the Heckle is a devalued Sheckle.

mikemac1

SMASH THE UNIONS wrote: »

drug addict Ming Flanagn

That's just silly calling him an addict

And he does less harm then the likes of G V Wright who got drunk and knocked down a women on his way home for another example

Green Diesel

mikemac1 wrote: »

That's just silly

I just browsed through his posts on other threads. Most of his opinions are silly.

Kristopherus

SMASH THE UNIONS wrote: »

You don't understand. That is not how interviews are done in America. Carol Coleman was allowed into the White House to interview President Bush and anytime he tried to answer, she spoke over him. It wasn't an interview, it was an attack.

Do you also condone Neil Munro interrupting Obama? Or do you have one set of rules for Republicans and another for Democrats?

Who gives a flying f**k how the "do" interviews in US:( Carol Coleman rightly pounced on that asshole Bush whose only intention in coming to Ireland was to stir up the more anti-Iraq sh*t. Note he managed to become the most unpopular US president ever:)

donegal_road

RealistSpy wrote: »

Gosh I was waiting for someone to bring this up......Here we go!

yes, irritating that someone would remember Bushes war crimes.. it is hard to have compassion towards those who were on the recieving end of it

Toby Take a Bow

SMASH THE UNIONS wrote: »

It really highlights what a terrible culture of discourse we have in this country, where whoever can shout the loudest wins. The Americans have a more formal Q&A approach where both parties listen to each other and then repsond rather than talk over each other.

It's not just an Irish thing. In fact, from the interviews that we see in Ireland, for the most part, are respectful. Nearly too respectful. Two Irish interviewers following suit doesn't actually mean you can make an insightful comment on Irish society.

What you're seeing is 'interviewing' which is pandering to how the tv networks are set up. It is what people want (or it's what the networks think people want).

mikemac1

Kristopherus wrote: »

Note he managed to become the most unpopular US president ever:)

Not realy

Just there are lots of ranking tables out there, he is nowhere near the bottom.
Bottom third maybe

Joshua J

Jesus you'd think with him educated in Ireland he'd know to put his hand up first before asking a question. Dragged up he was.

SMASH THE UNIONS

mikemac1 wrote: »

That's just silly calling him an addict

And he does less harm then the likes of G V Wright who got drunk and knocked down a women on his way home for another example

Your implication that I'm a supporter of G V Wright because I dislike Ming Flanagan is false. I can dislike both.

Your attempt to derail this thread has failed. Now, how do you feel about Irish reporter Neil Munro interrupting Obama? This is big news across the pond. Even FOX news called the heckler a moron.

Sunnyisland

Couldn't care less really where he was born and couldn't care less about that particular story either, I am out.

Benny_Cake

SMASH THE UNIONS wrote: »

Now, if you do condemn Neil Munro for his heckling, how can you justify Carol Coleman doing the same thing to Bush? The interview was highly controversial at the time and many Americans, both Republican and Democrat, were insulted that a jumped-up gombeen reporter from Ireland would disrespect their President that way, in the White House of all places.

There is a significant difference between posing legitimate questions in the context of an interview and interrupting a speech. Two completely different contexts. But let's face it, you only brought the subject up so you could go off on a tirade about Carol Coleman, who, like her or not, has achieved considerable success in her field and deserved better that to be called a "bitch" by a low-grade troll such as yourself.

SMASH THE UNIONS

Benny_Cake wrote: »

There is a significant difference between posing legitimate questions in the context of an interview and interrupting a speech. Two completely different contexts. But let's face it, you only brought the subject up so you could go off on a tirade about Carol Coleman, who, like her or not, has achieved considerable success in her field and deserved better that to be called a "bitch" by a low-grade troll such as yourself.

It's not about the questions she asked, it's how she asked them. She litterally would not let Bush get a word in. The White House even complained to the Irish Embassy about the interview. An Irish government spokesman commented that "within Government, there was an acknowledgment that the interview lacked respect."

So even our own Governmant admitted Coleman was out of order. How do you square that one? Her career is in the gutter these days anyway. She only has herself to blame.

Princess Consuela Bananahammock

SMASH THE UNIONS wrote: »

I don't understand - do you or do you not condemn Neil Munro for his rude outburst? Obama was visibly angry and that reporter will probably be banned from the White House for life. It doesn't matter how much you disagree with the President - you do not interrupt him in the middle of a formal speech in the Rose Garden. It breaks decades of decorum.

Now, if you do condemn Neil Munro for his heckling, how can you justify Carol Coleman doing the same thing to Bush? The interview was highly controversial at the time and many Americans, both Republican and Democrat, were insulted that a jumped-up gombeen reporter from Ireland would disrespect their President that way, in the White House of all places.

This is how interviews are done in America.
Clinton Vs FOX news
They take a more formal Q&A format. Both Clinton and the FOX interviewer obviously hate each other but they still allow each other to finish their sentences without interruption. Comapre this to a typical Frontline debate with drug addict Ming Flanagn shouting over scruffy tax cheat Mick Wallace. Nobody listens and nobody learns. The American format is more facilitaiting to educational discourse.

I do beleive I condemned both of them.

If you can not ask a question and then accept an answer, you should not be reporting.

SMASH THE UNIONS

Ikky Poo2 wrote: »

I do beleive I condemned both of them.

Then we are in agreement.

Benny_Cake

SMASH THE UNIONS wrote: »

It's not about the questions she asked, it's how she asked them. She litterally would not let Bush get a word in. The White House even complained to the Irish Embassy about the interview. An Irish government spokesman commented that "within Government, there was an acknowledgment that the interview lacked respect."

So even our own Governmant admitted Coleman was out of order. How do you square that one? Her career is in the gutter these days anyway. She only has herself to blame.

You're very good at quoting Irish government spokesmen talking about respect, yet you called her a bitch. Everyone is entitled to respect, period. Also, it is not the role of our government or any other government to tell a journalist how to do their job so what our government thinks is irrelevant, frankly. She left RTE in 2005,and since then has freelance in the US and has written two books.

SMASH THE UNIONS

Seems Coleman is thug to boot. You may rememeber her "I wanted to slap him" outburst during a Sunday Times interview regarding Bush. Rude and violent - what a catch!

Here's a funny opinion piece from the Independent on Coleman Lol
http://www.independent.ie/opinion/analysis/why-i-want-to-slap-carole-coleman-473294.html

Seanchai

SMASH THE UNIONS wrote: »

Here's a funny opinion piece from the Independent on Coleman Lol
http://www.independent.ie/opinion/analysis/why-i-want-to-slap-carole-coleman-473294.html

Yeah, hilarious, and written by Gwen Halley, a woman with so much class and self-respect she married that mentally unstable ranter, Ahern apologist and sycophant on the Irish taxpayer, Eoghan Harris.

You choose well. Indeed. Carole Coleman, on the other hand, gets her place in journalism for her talent not for lying down in bed with Eoghan Harris, the biggest media hoor in the chief brothel of the Irish media that is Independent Newspapers.

Sappa

My name is URL wrote: »

SMASH THE UNIONS wrote: »

Tourists come to Ireland expecting to interact with Irish people, hear the Irish accent, have the famous craic etc and instead they are faced with Nigerian taxi drivers, Pakistani shop assistants, Polish bar maids, Chinese waitresses etc etc. It's very possible to take a week long holiday and not interact with one Irish person at all. Anybody who thinks this isn't negatively affecting our tourist numbers is DELUDED.

/heckle

Ohh my there is always one clown in each thread.
Take this scenario that Polish barmaid could very well be a naturalised Irish citizen as are many of my Polish friends.
The Chinese waitress could be the spouse of an Irish citizen working to pay her way in Ireland.
The Pakistani shop assistant did not walk into Ireland of a flight but instead paid massive fees for tuition and is working to survive here.
Are you honestly telling me just because a person does not originally come from Ireland they can never call it there home and represent themselves as a member of this society.
Ireland is not only for freckled red heads with twead caps and pipe smoking natives,thankfully the tourists who come here are not as thick skinned and narrow minded to think like you.

Monty Burnz

SMASH THE UNIONS wrote: »

Reminds me of this other rude Irish bitch http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fze2J2Ve9is who constantly interrupted the President during an interview. It really highlights what a terrible culture of discourse we have in this country, where whoever can shout the loudest wins. The Americans have a more formal Q&A approach where both parties listen to each other and then repsond rather than talk over each other.

I was with you up to here. She didn't constantly interrupt him, she put questions to him that he clearly wanted to avoid. I'm not sure at what point the Yanks thought their chief executive became some sort of king, but he's certainly not our king.

Monty Burnz

SMASH THE UNIONS wrote: »

I don't understand - do you or do you not condemn Neil Munro for his rude outburst? Obama was visibly angry and that reporter will probably be banned from the White House for life. It doesn't matter how much you disagree with the President - you do not interrupt him in the middle of a formal speech in the Rose Garden. It breaks decades of decorum.

So you compare someone interrupting a 'formal speech' with someone trying to obtain answers from someone who is clearly avoiding them in an interview? :rolleyes:

Sappa

Monty Burnz wrote: »

SMASH THE UNIONS wrote: »

I don't understand - do you or do you not condemn Neil Munro for his rude outburst? Obama was visibly angry and that reporter will probably be banned from the White House for life. It doesn't matter how much you disagree with the President - you do not interrupt him in the middle of a formal speech in the Rose Garden. It breaks decades of decorum.

So you compare someone interrupting a 'formal speech' with someone trying to obtain answers from someone who is clearly avoiding them in an interview? :rolleyes:

The OP clearly has no idea about unbiased reporting and channelling questions set by a network with a political interest as is nearly the case with every major network.

Madam_X

Really don't get how his being Irish has any bearing on his behaviour.

And Independent Newspapers was obligated to push a pro Bush, pro Israel agenda.

fasttalkerchat

Onixx wrote: »

Really don't get how his being Irish has any bearing on his behaviour.

And Independent Newspapers was obligated to push a pro Bush, pro Israel agenda.

Because he is a foreigner himself.

KINGVictor

fasttalkerchat wrote: »

Because he is a foreigner himself.

Technically he is not. He has US citizenship and he has every right to comment on and question policies he is opposed to. I understand why people might find it strange from an Irish perspective but in some countries, when you become a citizen, you are basically entitled to act as such.

It is quite funny though that he opposes this policy when it would potentially benefit his fellow Irish citizens.

Ellis Dee

Where's the problem here? A right-wing, probably racist jackass is born in Ireland, but emigrates to America. Good riddance! Wouldn't it be great if they all left?:rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes:

fasttalkerchat

KINGVictor wrote: »

Technically he is not. He has US citizenship and he has every right to comment on and question policies he is opposed to. I understand why people might find it strange from an Irish perspective but in some countries, when you become a citizen, you are basically entitled to act as such.

It is quite funny though that he opposes this policy when it would potentially benefit his fellow Irish citizens.

Is he a citizen through birth? If that is the case its less ironic but even still, his parents would have been foreigners.

KINGVictor

fasttalkerchat wrote: »

Is he a citizen through birth? If that is the case its less ironic but even still, his parents would have been foreigners.

I dont think the route to citizenship matters. He is American, it is immaterial if his parents are not.

Butterface

Seanchai wrote: »

Eoghan Harris, the biggest media hoor in the chief brothel of the Irish media that is Independent Newspapers.

This elicited a hearty guffaw from me, thank you!:D

suicide_circus

SMASH THE UNIONS wrote: »

Seems Coleman is thug to boot. You may rememeber her "I wanted to slap him" outburst during a Sunday Times interview regarding Bush. Rude and violent - what a catch!

Here's a funny opinion piece from the Independent on Coleman Lol
http://www.independent.ie/opinion/analysis/why-i-want-to-slap-carole-coleman-473294.html

Yes, yes, yes but what is your stance on unions????!

3ndahalfof6

16 to 30 eh! will citizenship follow, i wonder what they will do with these 800k humans.

Doc Ruby

SMASH THE UNIONS wrote: »

Obama in effect is allowing illegal immigrant to stay in the US. I wouldn't tolerate this in Ireland, especially in this economic climate when thousands of natives are being forced to legally emigrate in search of work, but if the Americans want to hang their own noose...

From the BBC: The interesting part of this story though is how an Irish-born reporter and conservative talk-show host, Neil Munro, broke decorum and rudely interrupted the President mid-speech to heckle him with questions.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cWQby2KZwfA&feature=player_embedded

You couldn't make this up! This man, born in Ireland and educated in UCD, emigrates to America and then heckles the President about other immigrants! Stay classy Ireland.

Reminds me of this other rude Irish bitch http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fze2J2Ve9is who constantly interrupted the President during an interview. It really highlights what a terrible culture of discourse we have in this country, where whoever can shout the loudest wins. The Americans have a more formal Q&A approach where both parties listen to each other and then repsond rather than talk over each other.

*rubs eyes*

SMASH THE UNIONS wrote: »

An unsurprising idiotic move from one of the most inexperienced Presidents ever. His advisors must have let him off the leash for 2 seconds and then he comes out with this gaffe. Homosexuals already overwhelmingly vote Democrat, so Obama doesn't stand to gain any voters from this move, only lose. He will only alienate traditional Democratic voters who oppose same-sex marriage, such as religious Catholics and Jews and certain sections of the black community.

Future President Romney must be laughing with glee. Congrats to him.

So lets see, constant posting about immigrants, the odd jab at homosexuals, an almost incessant stream of verbiage about Republicans and Sinn Féin, describing the Irish flag as "dogs pissing to mark their territory"... noddy, right?

fasttalkerchat

Basically what happened was:
Obama: Give immigrants the right to stay here.
Reporter: Feck aff, deport them.
Me: Isn't that reporter Irish?

Nodin

SMASH THE UNIONS wrote: »

..... I wouldn't tolerate this in Ireland........

You're not in charge.