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Women enjoying a drink in the pub alone.

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  • Registered Users Posts: 1,547 ✭✭✭Downlinz


    To be honest as a man I'd find it a bit weird drinking alone in a pub myself as well.

    Airport bar fine, and having a drink with your lunch is again fine to do alone. But going in for just a pint? Seems strange, why?

    If you want a drink without company why not have it at home? If you don't want to be social, have something to eat or watch a game or something then what possible reason is there to go to a pub when you could just go home instead?
    Have you tried it and had to stop because men just can't help falling at your feet every time

    Although possibly a stealth bragging topic?


  • Registered Users Posts: 9,847 ✭✭✭py2006


    Downlinz wrote: »
    To be honest as a man I'd find it a bit weird drinking alone in a pub myself as well.

    Airport bar fine, and having a drink with your lunch is again fine to do alone. But going in for just a pint? Seems strange, why?

    If you want a drink without company why not have it at home? If you don't want to be social, have something to eat or watch a game or something then what possible reason is there to go to a pub when you could just go home instead?

    Sometimes, its the change of scenary. There is a big difference between having a drink at home and pint in a nice bar.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,949 ✭✭✭A Primal Nut


    ziggy23 wrote: »
    Happened to me the other night a friend of mine stood me up so I said feck it I'm having a drink. I'm not gorgeous or anything but I think a woman standing on her own must send out a signal to men! The amount of men that came over to me way more than if I was with a friend.

    Tbh, I think it's about confidence as well, rather than the man judging the girl. It's easier and a lot less nerve-wracking to approach a girl on her own than when there is a few girls together! I certainly wouldn't think she is more up for it or anything. In fact, a lot of the time I'd probably assume her boyfriend is in the jacks or on his way.


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,547 ✭✭✭Downlinz


    py2006 wrote: »
    Sometimes, its the change of scenary. There is a big difference between having a drink at home and pint in a nice bar.

    Sure, but isn't the difference the atmosphere and the social element? If you don't wish to speak with anyone whats the attraction? Just watching people go by?


  • Registered Users Posts: 9,847 ✭✭✭py2006


    Downlinz wrote: »
    Sure, but isn't the difference the atmosphere and the social element? If you don't wish to speak with anyone whats the attraction? Just watching people go by?

    Well going alone and having a relaxing drink doesn't necessarily mean you don't want to talk to people. Sometimes you do get chatting to the odd person.

    I spend a lot of time at home either studying or prep for work and its nice to get out of the house.

    Also, there is something about seeing and hearing people in a pub in the background. Kind of hard to explain.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 12,033 ✭✭✭✭Richard Hillman


    Downlinz wrote: »
    To be honest as a man I'd find it a bit weird drinking alone in a pub myself as well.

    Airport bar fine, and having a drink with your lunch is again fine to do alone. But going in for just a pint? Seems strange, why?

    If you want a drink without company why not have it at home? If you don't want to be social, have something to eat or watch a game or something then what possible reason is there to go to a pub when you could just go home instead?



    Everybody has their reasons. I had a sick relative living in my house recently so used to pop out to the pub for a pint or two to get out of the house.

    Mainly i go to the pub on my own for sport on tv. I dont have sky so i usually pop out to the pub if i wanted to see a match. There are not many streams for things like the Heineken Cup. Sometimes i miss my bus so i pop in for a pint instead of waiting for another. Saturdays are usually good when there is horse racing and football on at the same time.


    Havnt gone to the pub on my own in a while. I might pop in during the week :cool:


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 3,144 ✭✭✭Scanlas The 2nd


    Pubs are traditionally used to "meet" people, if you go to a pub then I don't think you have any right to complain about people approaching you, that's obviously why they're there. It sucks but that's just the way it is.

    The people approaching you should get the hint if you want to be left alone though, there's no call for acting aggressively or anything.

    I largely agree with this, it's anyone's right to talk to whoever they want, as that's part of freedom and with that freedom you have to accept people may talk to who you don't want to talk to. Saying that, if someone clearly doesn't want to talk to you you should walk off and leave them alone, it's rude not to.


  • Registered Users Posts: 669 ✭✭✭Fizzlesque


    Downlinz wrote: »

    If you want a drink without company why not have it at home? If you don't want to be social, have something to eat or watch a game or something then what possible reason is there to go to a pub when you could just go home instead?

    There's loads of reasons. I drink Guinness (among other things) and a creamy pint of Guinness in a pub that serves good Guinness is one of life's truly delicious things. Not the same as a can of Guinness at home....

    Also, I live alone, and sometimes it's good to get out of the house and be in company without actually having to 'be in company'.

    Personally, it doesn't bother me if someone starts talking to me when I'm in the pub, I don't conclude I'm being chatted up every time a man talks to me, sometimes they will be, sometimes they won't be. If I don't want to talk to that particular person, for whatever reason, I'm well able to let them know without being rude or offensive.

    There's a difference between a few words of banter, light hearted chat and someone being in your face, wrecking your buzz.

    I love going dancing, and as I've gotten older the times my friends are free to/interested in going dancing have become less and less, so I go by myself. I often have more fun when I'm by myself because I meet more people than I would otherwise and can spend lots of time on the dance floor if the music inspires me enough.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 3,144 ✭✭✭Scanlas The 2nd


    ziggy23 wrote: »
    Happened to me the other night a friend of mine stood me up so I said feck it I'm having a drink. I'm not gorgeous or anything but I think a woman standing on her own must send out a signal to men! The amount of men that came over to me way more than if I was with a friend.

    Tbh, I think it's about confidence as well, rather than the man judging the girl. It's easier and a lot less nerve-wracking to approach a girl on her own than when there is a few girls together! I certainly wouldn't think she is more up for it or anything. In fact, a lot of the time I'd probably assume her boyfriend is in the jacks or on his way.

    I find it's easier and more fun approaching groups of women. You can switch your attention amongst them and none of them feel pressure to talk to you, it makes it easier for all to have fun.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,128 ✭✭✭✭aaronjumper


    I would treat it as a context situation. Generally I can read whether or not someone wants to be left alone. Choosing to obey their wishes is a different story :p

    I might stroll up and start a conversation without slobbering all over the woman.
    I mean not wanting to get flirted with is fair enough but going out to a public place filled with people because you want to be alone? Anyone else seeing a flaw in this plan?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,738 ✭✭✭Jay D


    I don't see the point in drinking on your own. Maybe it's a good thing that certain people can unwind and zone out mind you, but I just feel it's a waste of opportunity to do other things than sit there on your own having a beer and/or getting drunk. Is it gonna be a randomer come into your life and be a permanent fixture? Highly unlikely.

    So if I wanted to be left alone I just stay in and knock my phone off :)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,301 ✭✭✭Daveysil15


    Fizzlesque wrote: »
    Ah, Davey, you disappoint me. Why should someone have to deny themselves a pint in a pub and choose a different venue such as a cafe?

    there have been times I've just fancied being left to myself, and something to read, or a notebook to write in usually sends that signal.

    Well why bother going to a pub if you want to be left alone? Pubs are social places. There are plenty of places you can read a book. Although if you're in a pub during the afternoon then that would be ok as it would be quite. Are men approaching these women in pubs during the afternoon though? :confused: Anyway, I fail to see the reason for going into a pub for some quite time when there's lots of men watching a match or getting ready for some clubbing.


  • Registered Users Posts: 245 ✭✭marco2068


    Arrogance. They think because you're there, they have the right to speak to you even though they don't know you at all. I've had people tell me I should stay at home if I don't want to socialise. :confused: As if going out to soak up the atmosphere and enjoy the company of your friends isn't acceptable.

    maybe you should take a lesson from the english girls i've met while in the uk. All including even the prettiest will spend a few minutes chatting to a guy and are usually very friendly. After a while they'll let you know they have to 'go' and me/the guy returns to his friends, pride intact.

    In ireland it seems that most women (even the not so good looking ones) are very standoffish unless they really like you.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,301 ✭✭✭Daveysil15


    marco2068 wrote: »
    maybe you should take a lesson from the english girls i've met while in the uk. All including even the prettiest will spend a few minutes chatting to a guy and are usually very friendly. After a while they'll let you know they have to 'go' and me/the guy returns to his friends, pride intact.

    In ireland it seems that most women (even the not so good looking ones) are very standoffish unless they really like you.

    Feck that, I'm moving to England. :D


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 3,144 ✭✭✭Scanlas The 2nd


    Well the woman who said that must be pretty conceited!

    I'm a girl, I wouldn't go to the pub and have a drink by myself but that's because I'd just feel awkward, not 'cause I'd be afraid of men hitting on me. If I'm out at clubs though and lose my friends so I'm on my own, guys do tend to approach a bit more. I guess it's less intimidating for them approaching a girl on her own rather than if she's with a group of friends. But either way, it's so conceited to believe that you can't even go for a drink on your own without thinking men are gonna bombard you cause you're just that hot.

    And this is exactly what men who bother girls on their own say. 'Ah, you're so up yourself, sure I'm only trying to have a nice chat with ya.' We're not bloody idiots. I can tell the difference. I don't even mind strangers talking to me, but when I give the signal that I'd prefer to be left alone, I expect to be left alone. I don't have any obligation to talk to anybody, but a lot of guys don't seem to understand that.

    And I'm not talking about what 'would' happen. I've never once sat in a bar with a drink on my own and not been chatted up or leered at. It even happens even when I'm out with my boyfriend and he's at the bar or the toilet. I guess I must be really hot then. :rolleyes:

    You're right in that you are not obligated to talk to chatter uppers, they also are not obligated to not attempt chatting up.

    You are not entitled not to be chatted up and they are not entitled to a welcoming response.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 3,144 ✭✭✭Scanlas The 2nd


    Daveysil15 wrote: »
    marco2068 wrote: »
    maybe you should take a lesson from the english girls i've met while in the uk. All including even the prettiest will spend a few minutes chatting to a guy and are usually very friendly. After a while they'll let you know they have to 'go' and me/the guy returns to his friends, pride intact.

    In ireland it seems that most women (even the not so good looking ones) are very standoffish unless they really like you.

    Feck that, I'm moving to England. :D

    So you'd prefer more obligatory pity conversation, a sharp fukc off is more genuine.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,822 ✭✭✭sunflower27


    Daveysil15 wrote: »
    Well why bother going to a pub if you want to be left alone? Pubs are social places. There are plenty of places you can read a book. Although if you're in a pub during the afternoon then that would be ok as it would be quite. Are men approaching these women in pubs during the afternoon though? :confused: Anyway, I fail to see the reason for going into a pub for some quite time when there's lots of men watching a match or getting ready for some clubbing.

    :D OK :D


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,301 ✭✭✭Daveysil15


    So you'd prefer more obligatory pity conversation, a sharp fukc off is more genuine.

    I wouldn't call it pity. It's basic courtesy. No I never really liked the fcuk off response. I find that slightly insulting. :pac:


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,822 ✭✭✭sunflower27


    Daveysil15 wrote: »
    I wouldn't call it pity. It's basic courtesy. No I never really liked the fcuk off response. I find that slightly insulting. :pac:

    Why should it be accepted that it is Ok to go over to a woman that is happily enjoying a drink, reading the paper or something.

    Just because she is in a pub and not a library doesnt mean she wants some random guy to sit down and start talking to her.

    Leave her alone. :confused: it's not a hard concept.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,301 ✭✭✭Daveysil15


    Why should it be accepted that it is Ok to go over to a woman that is happily enjoying a drink, reading the paper or something.

    Just because she is in a pub and not a library doesnt mean she wants some random guy to sit down and start talking to her.

    Leave her alone. :confused: it's not a hard concept.

    God with that attitude we'd never meet anyone. It's a free country. Of course its ok to approach someone and talk to them as long as you're not been rude. If she doesn't want to be approached or she politely tells him she's not interested, then that's fine. Jeez, you'd think he was trying to rape her or something. :rolleyes:


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,822 ✭✭✭sunflower27


    Daveysil15 wrote: »
    God with that attitude we'd never meet anyone. It's a free country. Of course its ok to approach someone and talk to them as long as you're not been rude. If she doesn't want to be approached or she politely tells him she's not interested, then that's fine. Jeez, you'd think he was trying to rape her or something. :rolleyes:

    Calm down, I am talking about people being offended when someone does not want to engage in conversation with them.


  • Registered Users Posts: 245 ✭✭marco2068


    So you'd prefer more obligatory pity conversation, a sharp fukc off is more genuine.

    I'd be more than happy to hear it from you, don't think i'd like our conversation.

    Anyways i was only chatting to you to get to your friend:cool:


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,301 ✭✭✭Daveysil15


    Calm down, I am talking about people being offended when someone does not want to engage in conversation with them.

    Well that's fair enough, but the whole, "Leave her alone" remark. You made it sound like they're been harassed. If she's allowed to sit in a bar, then people are allowed to approach her. It's as simple as that!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 725 ✭✭✭Varied


    Love going for a good steak and pint of a sunday.

    Honestly some women need to deflate those egos, all too many princesses out there.


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,576 ✭✭✭IrishAm


    Why should it be accepted that it is Ok to go over to a woman that is happily enjoying a drink, reading the paper or something.

    Just because she is in a pub and not a library doesnt mean she wants some random guy to sit down and start talking to her.

    Leave her alone. :confused: it's not a hard concept.

    If hes good looking, its cool. If hes not, you complain about some creeper hitting on ya!

    :)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,198 ✭✭✭du Maurier


    Varied wrote: »
    Love going for a good steak and pint of a sunday.

    Honestly some women need to deflate those egos, all too many princesses out there.


    True. It seems some of the fairer sex aren't prescient of mind to tactfully navigate their way around some unwanted attention without roaring about harassment and being put upon by the desperate ogres. Ridiculous.:pac:


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 2,827 ✭✭✭christmas2012


    I dont see the problem with a woman having drinks on her own,if a guy comes up to her so what?Its a free country,she can either a) chat with him b) politely chat to him and let him off or c) tell him where to go -all reactions are accepted in ireland,even the **** off as it is seen as an honest response..
    I dont see what all the fuss is about really,ive went for drinks on my own and in company,and if someone approaches you that you dont like you can get up and leave,but then again how do you know youre going to like them until they start chatting away..They are more likely to approach you when you are on your own,as company can be daunting,but you wil find in groups,one group will approach another etc..
    It can be annoying being approached but as long as you know how to react (personally i wouldnt go the **** off route,probably would have when i was younger,i would let them down gently,chat away then make my excuses,i think is the best option,whats the need to tell somebody to **** off,you never know when you might cross paths again)..


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,639 ✭✭✭Miss Lockhart


    I think it is shocking that there are people in this day and age who would "judge" a woman for having a drink alone in a pub. If she is just getting out and about and enjoying her own company - what's wrong with that? If she is there on the pull - what's wrong with that?

    I agree it can be annoying being approached repeatedly if you want to be left alone. However, I also agree that you don't have any right not to be approached and that others, men included, have the right to approach and try chat to anybody they like.

    That said, women have every right to tell a man that they want to be left alone. And while technically a man may have the "right" to persist, if he does then I think he is a dick.

    If a woman chooses to be outright rude (ie "f*ck off!) then she can only expect rudeness back.

    However, if a woman exchanges pleasantries and then politely but clearly says that she was hoping to spend some time alone, then any man that responds to that in a rude way is a dick.

    I think the number of Irish women who go straight for the "f*ck off" approach is probably directly proportional to the number of Irish men who cannot take any type of rejection without being a dick. That doesn't excuse the rudeness. I would personally never take the rude approach but yet I encounter the insulting response from some men far too frequently.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,150 ✭✭✭✭Malari


    I'm confused about people who say they would "judge" a woman for having a drink alone in a pub. What judgement do you make? :confused: She's lonely? An alcoholic? Looking for a one-night stand? :D

    I've done it occasion, while waiting for people to show up, or maybe in an airport. I seem to have a group of friends that is chronically late. And yeah, sometimes you get guys chatting to you. Sometimes I'll chat, other times I'll politely make it clear I just want to read or be alone. But I've also been approached by some pretty unpleasant men, sometimes drunk, and they are unable to take a hint. I think I've only resorted to telling someone to f*ck off once that I remember and he was just being really rude and obnoxious.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 1,264 ✭✭✭fran17


    a little dash of rohypnol always gets em in the mood:pac:


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