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Standard of Officiating at Euro 2012?

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,636 ✭✭✭✭Tox56


    I would like for England to go all the way, but hearing from the pundits how it was 'payback' for Lampard made no sense. They did not play against Ukraine in the last World Cup, as far as I can recall. :rolleyes:

    Imagine hypothetically if Ireland were playing Italy with a chance to qualify for the Quarter-Finals, and Ireland scored the winner with a handball that wasn't picked up by the officials, everyone would be comparing it to the Henry incident, of course they would.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,465 ✭✭✭kitakyushu


    Tox56 wrote: »
    Imagine hypothetically if Ireland were playing Italy with a chance to qualify for the Quarter-Finals, and Ireland scored the winner with a handball that wasn't picked up by the officials, everyone would be comparing it to the Henry incident, of course they would.

    I think his point is : yeah they could defo compare the incidents, but that it wouldn't be "payback" considering we hadn't done it to France. All we would have achieved would have been to cheat Italy in a similar manner to how France cheated us.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,535 ✭✭✭Radharc na Sleibhte


    Swings and roundabouts.
    You win some, you lose some.
    Things really do have a habit of levelling themselves out over the course of....

    All cliches, but all true.

    Bar a couple of bad (quite big) calls, I think the general standard of refereeing has actually been quite good.

    But I think its time to give a bit of assistance with these big decisions.
    There is far too much resting on it these days not to.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 718 ✭✭✭frisbeeface


    I think the referees have been pretty good this tournament. They seem to be awarding less soft frees and letting the game flow more. They must have been told by UEFA to give the benefit of the doubt to the defender. I like it so far.

    Obviously they've still got decisions wrong, which is unfortunate but inevitable. I really hate when managers and pundits blame referees for making an error and ignore the many errors their players made which also resulted in the loss. It's human error all round! Good example from the Ukraine game last night, the Ukraine keeper just as responsible for the defeat at the officials.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,465 ✭✭✭kitakyushu


    First game = 2 reds, 1 pen.

    Next 23 games = 1 red, 0 pens.

    I reckon there was some kind of reaction to that terrible ref in the opening game and the rest of them have been told to tone it down a bit and let common sense prevail. Overall I think it's helped the games as a spectacle in themselves.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,555 ✭✭✭✭Idbatterim


    How about a system, where a team could make possibly 1 or a max of 2 appeals per match (to go to video judge), only for major decisions though, i.e. a penalty, sending off or goal appeal (i.e. from opposing player being off side or ball being over the line).


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,828 ✭✭✭KerranJast


    That would be both smart and entertaining hence it won't be introduced.

    Anyway such a system would've had the same outcome last night. Milevskiy was well offside in the English half when the ball was played out from the Ukrainian half so the goal wouldn't have stood.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,790 ✭✭✭Benimar


    KerranJast wrote: »
    That would be both smart and entertaining hence it won't be introduced.

    Anyway such a system would've had the same outcome last night. Milevskiy was well offside in the English half when the ball was played out from the Ukrainian half so the goal wouldn't have stood.

    It would have been very interesting to hear the reaction today if goal line technology was in place last night. Had it been, then the goal would have had to have been given as it (obviously) wouldn't pick up the offside.

    I think last night supports the argument for a 'challenge' system based on replay more than only goal line technology in isolation.

    Goal line technology only would have given the incorrect outcome last night, a 'challenge' system would have got it right.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,346 ✭✭✭✭homerjay2005


    i was at 5 games while i was over there and i have to say, the standard of reffing has been appalling.the clown in charge of the Ireland V Italy game should never be left near a football pitch again.

    some of them are so much out of their depth it is unbelievable.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,167 ✭✭✭✭klose


    Watching the Greece Russia game now on eurosport and must say the ref giving the yellow to the Greek captain was a disgraceful decision, maybe the worst of the tournament. There really needs to be an option to appeal yellow cards, massive blow to em ahead of tonights game.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,132 ✭✭✭✭Kolido


    I think the only fair way is to have replays. For example if goal-line tech had of given Ukraine the goal against England, it wouldn't have picked up the off-side.
    But then you got to wonder how replays would work for dicissions like red cards and such. Who exactly would be judging these dicissions. You often see pundits having different opinions on these in studios after the games. I think it would help obviously but there would be still some arguements on the judgements


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 882 ✭✭✭darragh16


    Kolido wrote: »
    I think the only fair way is to have replays. For example if goal-line tech had of given Ukraine the goal against England, it wouldn't have picked up the off-side.
    But then you got to wonder how replays would work for dicissions like red cards and such. Who exactly would be judging these dicissions. You often see pundits having different opinions on these in studios after the games. I think it would help obviously but there would be still some arguements on the judgements

    Replays would slow the game down entirely though. And then you'd have to ask what becomes replayable and which doesn't. The thing with offside decisions and fouls etc. they are just part of the game and they happen.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,351 ✭✭✭Orando Broom


    Coaches challange. Two per coach per half. Let the coach and team decide what needs to be looked at. Put the responsibility back on them. Then there might be less pressure put on officials by managers.

    you could only use it in situations such as contentious penalty decisions, dives eliciting frees and cards and goals.

    Obviously couldn't work for offside or where play is transitioning.


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