Will we ever allow weird sexualities?

PC CDROM

Society is a strange beast. Once it prosecuted gays and then it loved them.

It seems it is never about wrong or right but just the way society sees things.

Will animal sex be next? Or other weird stuff?

I don't think gay sex is weird by the way. It does not come under the umbrella.

J_E

I don't see your logic in making a connection between accepting homosexuality and having animal sex.

The King of Moo

Gay sex between two consenting adults is the right of those two people to enjoy, and no-one should have any say in whether it's allowed or not, which is why it's not illegal anymore.

Bestiality, to use your example, cannot involve informed consent by its very nature, so I can't see that ever being made legal. It's animal abuse.

The same goes for paedophilia. Except that that's child abuse, obviously.

Snowie

Some one think of the shoe fetishists

Pottler

Which ones came under your umberella? And how did they get your umberella as a sex canopy to begin with? I'm intrigued. Speaking of Beastiality, a Labrador humped my leg today without my consent, so I'd say it's true that without consent it can't be right. It felt wrong to me but the dogs owner said he was just being friendly.

jimthemental

No. This is not Japan. I say if yer not going for camogie players or women on hen parties then there's something fundamentally wrong with you.

Rhyme

Nobody will ever understand my love.

jayteecork

IS there an Irish Man Boy Love Association?

Snowie

Rhyme wrote: »

Nobody will ever understand my love.

there there I'm understanding not in a gay way but a problem halfed is a problem solved tell us your kinkster like ways....

Duggys Housemate

We'll bring in polygamy for sure.

jimthemental

jayteecork wrote: »

IS there an Irish Man Boy Love Association?

Ya they're having a big gathering in Dublin at the moment.

Superbus

jayteecork wrote: »

IS there an Irish Man Boy Love Association?

The CATHOLIC CHURCH!

HAHAHAHA I'M SHOUTING!

eth0

Like Paedophilia? I think not. The current hysteria about it might blow over sure once the Daily Fail goes out of business but it'd never be accepted

mikemac1

jayteecork wrote: »

IS there an Irish Man Boy Love Association?

Yes, David Norris is President.

phasers

As soon as an animal can sign a consent form you can have sex with it.


and it has to be a full signiature, not an X.

titan18

eth0 wrote: »

Like Paedophilia? I think not. The current hysteria about it might blow over sure once the Daily Fail goes out of business but it'd never be accepted

You realise it was accepted in historical times, ya. At least around ages of 10 and up, and in some cases, they were married before those ages.

PC CDROM

PC CDROM wrote: »

Society is a strange beast. Once it prosecuted gays and then it loved them.

I don't know what society you ****in live in.

Kurz

I reckon Fine Gael would try to ban consensual hetrosexual sex if we didn't need it for reproduction. Just to get on side with the unibrowed ultra-conservative Irish right wing.

Rhyme

Snowie wrote: »

there there I'm understanding not in a gay way but a problem halfed is a problem solved tell us your kinkster like ways....

Nice try Snowie but I haven't seen you at our meetings.

Snowie

Rhyme wrote: »

Nice try Snowie but I haven't seen you at our meetings.

if I went to a meeting id be there for two days with a list of kinks long then my shlong

BeerSteakBirds

Daily the belief is reinforced that the interweb is crawling with sick bastards.

I'm pretty happy with the laws as they are except I think nobody should have the right to ban polygamy or prostitution between consenting adults. Not that I equate either of those concepts either.

Concerning the fked up sick animal sex concept, if a dog humps your leg is it not giving consent to a sexual relationship and you can then morally hump it back if you are so inclined and swing that way? I will leave that to the philosophers haha

PC CDROM

Deleted User wrote: »

I don't know what society you ****in live in.

eh the "modern" one?

PC CDROM

BeerSteakBirds wrote: »

Daily the belief is reinforced that the interweb is crawling with sick bastards.

I'm pretty happy with the laws as they are except I think nobody should have the right to ban polygamy or prostitution between consenting adults. Not that I equate either of those concepts either.

Concerning the fked up sick animal sex concept, if a dog humps your leg is it not giving consent to a sexual relationship and you can then morally hump it back if you are so inclined and swing that way? I will leave that to the philosophers haha

What if the dog is giving consent?

Duggys Housemate

PC CDROM wrote: »

BeerSteakBirds wrote: »

Daily the belief is reinforced that the interweb is crawling with sick bastards.

I'm pretty happy with the laws as they are except I think nobody should have the right to ban polygamy or prostitution between consenting adults. Not that I equate either of those concepts either.

Concerning the fked up sick animal sex concept, if a dog humps your leg is it not giving consent to a sexual relationship and you can then morally hump it back if you are so inclined and swing that way? I will leave that to the philosophers haha

What if the dog is giving consent?

That's what's he is saying. The leg humping dogs are giving consent. Possibly only to sex with your leg, though. A thorny philosophical problem.

Odysseus

I remember having a discussion at the Gay Mans Helth Project about my professional view about homosexuality as a pathology. After the outbursts, at the end of the 3 days training they could see my point; as I pointed out some pathologies of my own. However, there is no moral judgement involved, and I'm a psychoanalyst at heart. I must add that it is not some thing that needs to be automatically treated.

Both side ended up having some good debates, turned out to be a good 3 days training.


Edit: because of my bike leathers I was very popular;)

BeerSteakBirds

Duggys Housemate wrote: »

That's what's he is saying. The leg humping dogs are giving consent. Possibly only to sex with your leg, though. A thorny philosophical problem.

if he drops his pants to a humping pig but does nothing else hes breaking the law even if consent of both parties is then obvious but if he makes a nice juicy steak with apple sauce hes well within the law. Steaks don't sign consent forms. Is it morally worse to be humped or killed and eaten ? This type of debate drives the pervs mad hahaha Life isnt fair to the pig either .

PrincessLola

titan18 wrote: »

You realise it was accepted in historical times, ya. At least around ages of 10 and up, and in some cases, they were married before those ages.

Yeah but people did a lot of crazy sh&t back in the day. It doesn't make it right.

Though if a pedophile is able to just stay away from kids I see no problem with them.

Pedant

PC CDROM wrote: »

Society is a strange beast. Once it prosecuted gays and then it loved them.

It seems it is never about wrong or right but just the way society sees things.

Will animal sex be next? Or other weird stuff?

I don't think gay sex is weird by the way. It does not come under the umbrella.

Animal sex isn't consensual. Animals don't have the ability to consent.

Any sexual act between two or more consenting adults should be legal, simple as. Clearly bestiality doesn't fall under this umbrella.

Odysseus

Snowie wrote: »

Some one think of the shoe fetishists

All the fetishists are interesting, they gernerally work very well as a symptom; that is people are happy with them. They only come to light generally much later in therapy. I have never seen a person present foe treatment with their fethismn as the cause.

Pedant

Odysseus wrote: »

I remember having a discussion at the Gay Mans Helth Project about my professional view about homosexuality as a pathology. After the outbursts, at the end of the 3 days training they could see my point; as I pointed out some pathologies of my own. However, there is no moral judgement involved, and I'm a psychoanalyst at heart. I must add that it is not some thing that needs to be automatically treated.

Both side ended up having some good debates, turned out to be a good 3 days training.


Edit: because of my bike leathers I was very popular;)

So since when did a normal deviation in human sexual orientation become a pathology?

Duggys Housemate

Odysseus wrote: »

Snowie wrote: »

Some one think of the shoe fetishists

All the fetishists are interesting, they gernerally work very well as a symptom; that is people are happy with them. They only come to light generally much later in therapy. I have never seen a person present foe treatment with their fethismn as the cause.

Why try cure the fetish, then. If you do.

Duggys Housemate

Pedant wrote: »

Odysseus wrote: »

I remember having a discussion at the Gay Mans Helth Project about my professional view about homosexuality as a pathology. After the outbursts, at the end of the 3 days training they could see my point; as I pointed out some pathologies of my own. However, there is no moral judgement involved, and I'm a psychoanalyst at heart. I must add that it is not some thing that needs to be automatically treated.

Both side ended up having some good debates, turned out to be a good 3 days training.


Edit: because of my bike leathers I was very popular;)

So since when did a normal deviation in human sexual orientation become a pathology?

Normal deviation is a weird use of the language.

Odysseus

I have stated my psychological traing, so it is easy to see where it came from. I stated I'm primaryily a psychoanalysts so not being funny. Just off to bed now, look at Freud and Lacan. Finally there are lots of gay analysts, we all have our symptoms.

Odysseus

Duggys Housemate wrote: »

Why try cure the fetish, then. If you do.

I would not try, or being gay, but if you are in therapy, it is there to be explored, not cured.

titan18

PrincessLola wrote: »

Yeah but people did a lot of crazy sh&t back in the day. It doesn't make it right.

Though if a pedophile is able to just stay away from kids I see no problem with them.

Poster said it'd never be accepted, it used to be. It's only modern society that has set an age of consent outside of what human biology allows for.

John Doe1

You've never lived till you have pentetrated your car:)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mechanophilia

mikemac1

I ride my bike every day, get me from A to B and keeps me fit :cool:

I don't ride like this man though!

A man caught trying to have sex with his bicycle has been sentenced to three years on probation.
Robert Stewart, 51, admitted a sexually aggravated breach of the peace by conducting himself in a disorderly manner and simulating sex.

Sheriff Colin Miller also placed Stewart on the Sex Offenders Register for three years.

Mr Stewart was caught in the act with his bicycle by cleaners in his bedroom at the Aberley House Hostel in Ayr.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/7095134.stm

Spunge

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q0S642NtHtE

fungun

mikemac1 wrote: »

I ride my bike every day, get me from A to B and keeps me fit :cool:

I don't ride like this man though!


http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/7095134.stm

lol, wtf is wrong with the world when a guy is humping an inanimate object in his own bedroom and gets charged and put on sex offenders list.

People, put your vibrators away, RIGHT NOW!!!!

holystungun9

Rhyme wrote: »

Nobody will ever understand my love.

If you mean dressing up as clowns, busting balloons with high heels and wrestling in play pools full of baked beans PM me now!!!

Nothingbetter2d

PC CDROM wrote: »

Will animal sex be next? Or other weird stuff?

fond of an old sheep are ya?

Jester252

Spunge wrote: »

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q0S642NtHtE

dogging on a whole new level

suicide_circus

Odysseus wrote: »

I remember having a discussion at the Gay Mans Helth Project about my professional view about homosexuality as a pathology. After the outbursts, at the end of the 3 days training they could see my point; as I pointed out some pathologies of my own.

Could you elaborate on this, genuinely interested.

Rhyme

holystungun9 wrote: »

If you mean dressing up as clowns, busting balloons with high heels and wrestling in play pools full of baked beans PM me now!!!

Pm sent.

loveisdivine

Animal sex is already legal in Denmark, they have brothels for it. It's utterly disgusting. The animals are kept in cages and then just brought out for the "clients".

aaronjumper

We do allow weird sexualities. Just not the illegal ones.

Pascaldiddly

When it comes to sex btwn humans its either kids or adults but in the middle is teens no sex is alien to them like rocket science sure nevermind sex with someone else theyd never have it with themselves

Bannasidhe

aaronjumper wrote: »

We do allow weird sexualities. Just not the illegal ones.

My dad is short, has more body hair then a gorilla - it's black/grey and wavy - apart from on his head which is mainly bald since we attacked him and removed the come-over, has either been gestating quads since 1972 or is, camel like, storing Murphys in his belly, has skinny legs so white they may actually be dead yet somehow they support that huge gut.

He looks exactly like many Irish men of a certain age...

I assume my mam fancied him. I find that to be an example of weird sexuality.

aaronjumper

Bannasidhe wrote: »

My dad is short, has more body hair then a gorilla - it's black/grey and wavy - he's bald, has either been gestating quads since 1972 or is, camel like, storing Murphys in his belly, has skinny legs so white they may actually be dead yet somehow they support that huge gut.

He looks exactly like many Irish men of a certain age...

I assume my mam fancied him. I find that to be an example of weird sexuality.

Just because she liked a real man. Why have a six pack when you can have a keg!

mayotom

In Lebanon it is Legal to have sex with an animal, but only with a female animal. Sex with a male Animal is punishable by death

Father Damo

PrincessLola wrote: »

Though if a pedophile is able to just stay away from kids I see no problem with them.

The condition doesnt creep you out at all as long as it is kept celibate?


tbh I can see some future lawsuit brought where someone claims just because of their attraction they shouldnt be prevented from becoming a teacher if they keep said attraction celibate, arguing its like a bouncer in a strip bar controlling himself and not demanding sex off the dancers. And you can well see some dim witted equal rights tossers supporting it.