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    #1172
    CSF
    Registered Users Posts: 33,235 ✭✭✭✭CSF


    I also never enjoyed any of the Undertaker's gimmicks that weren't the dead man. The Ministry will forever be his peak.


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    #1173
    beakerjoe
    Registered Users Posts: 20,753 ✭✭✭✭beakerjoe


    eass82 wrote: »
    I really dont get the fuss about the Undertakers overall career....

    I mean, he was huge when I was a kid and he was putting people in body bags after matches it scared the crap outta me - as he was and his move set back then was all good. He had one of the most eerie and appropriate managers ever too.

    But all the reinventions - other wrestlers, ok, but UT did not need such stark reinvention. The whole American badass thing made me wana puke.

    If he has stayed closer to his original self and retained the 'fear factor' that could be maintained in a pre-twitter era he could have been amongst best of all time.

    But it made me genuinely happy when the streak was broken to bury the myth of the Undertaker, mk 12 or whatever version we were on.

    He is among the best of all time though.


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    #1174
    gerrybbadd
    Registered Users Posts: 10,301 ✭✭✭✭gerrybbadd


    Amongst the very best in fact. Definitely in the top 5 of all time


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    #1175
    Mick Murdock
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,543 ✭✭✭Mick Murdock


    Completely overrated. Liked Taker/Bearer/Kane in the AE. Preferred the American Badass to anything he's done in the last 10 years.

    No interest in seeing him or Sting ever again.

    Easily surpassed by Austin, Hogan, Rock, Flair and I'd put about 10 others in front of him.


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    #1176
    DarByrne1980
    Registered Users Posts: 311 ✭✭DarByrne1980


    Mick Murdock wrote: »
    Completely overrated. Liked Taker/Bearer/Kane in the AE. Preferred the American Badass to anything he's done in the last 10 years.

    No interest in seeing him or Sting ever again.

    Easily surpassed by Austin, Hogan, Rock, Flair and I'd put about 10 others in front of him.

    i couldn't agree more about sting i really can't see what sting is going to bring apart from merchandice sales. im not criticizing him as a wrestler but after such a long career he is slow and not able to move round the ring like he could in his prime


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    #1177
    Omackeral
    Registered Users Posts: 32,956 ✭✭✭✭Omackeral


    The Ciano 3:16 poster was good the first time. In fact it was very good in that it got into the main graphic the next night on Raw etc.

    But it's been sad every subsequent time it's been done.


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    #1178
    Loughc
    Moderators, Business & Finance Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 24,829 Mod ✭✭✭✭Loughc


    Omackeral wrote: »
    The Ciano 3:16 poster was good the first time. In fact it was very good in that it got into the main graphic the next night on Raw etc.

    But it's been sad every subsequent time it's been done.

    WM31 Omackeral Vs Ciano316 poster on a pole match.... BOOK IT!


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    #1179
    Chip Whitley
    Registered Users Posts: 1,459 ✭✭✭Chip Whitley


    Omackeral wrote: »
    The Ciano 3:16 poster was good the first time. In fact it was very good in that it got into the main graphic the next night on Raw etc.

    But it's been sad every subsequent time it's been done.

    What's sad about it?!


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    #1180
    gerrybbadd
    Registered Users Posts: 10,301 ✭✭✭✭gerrybbadd


    Loughc wrote: »
    WM31 Omackeral Vs Ciano316 poster on a pole match.... BOOK IT!

    Imagine the video package.... I'm thinking the slow build like the Austin / Rock Limp Bizkit one... Possibly Linkin Park's A Place for My Head playing over the top!


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    #1181
    ShagNastii
    Registered Users Posts: 4,869 ✭✭✭ShagNastii


    Sami Zayns looks is pretty crap. The guy is in decent shape but the boots and the rest of his attire scream indie.


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    #1182
    Blue_Dabadee
    Registered Users Posts: 1,553 ✭✭✭Blue_Dabadee


    I want The Miz and Damien Mizdow to have tag team championship run, they are such a good duo together and they are far more interesting than any other tag team on main roster right now.


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    #1183
    ShagNastii
    Registered Users Posts: 4,869 ✭✭✭ShagNastii


    mxph3 wrote: »
    I want The Miz and Damien Mizdow to have tag team championship run, they are such a good duo together and they are far more interesting than any other tag team on main roster right now.

    They are teasing a split but I pray to god they get a few more months at least out the Miz and his stunt double it's freakin' hilarious.


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    #1184
    DM_7
    Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 18,320 Mod ✭✭✭✭DM_7


    Mizdow is stupid


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    #1185
    Omackeral
    Registered Users Posts: 32,956 ✭✭✭✭Omackeral


    The Sting appearance didn't do much for me and I didn't even know it was coming. Read no spoilers or rumours. Took too long staring HHH down, walking to the ring instead of a blackout and appearing kinda was lame (I know they don't wanna do a drop down repel). Plus he looked a bit crap with his old man birds nest of hair.


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    #1186
    Stereomaniac
    Registered Users Posts: 6,166 ✭✭✭Stereomaniac


    I never thought Sting was that big of a deal to begin with. I just liked him in WCW because he wasn't Hulk Hogan and I couldn't understand what the hell Ric Flair was shouting about usually.


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    #1187
    Palo Alto
    Registered Users Posts: 908 ✭✭✭Palo Alto


    Sting v Vader is one of my favourite programmes of all time.


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    #1188
    Stereomaniac
    Registered Users Posts: 6,166 ✭✭✭Stereomaniac


    I thought Vader was way better than some of the other big men that got main event runs later.


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    #1189
    leggo
    Registered Users Posts: 9,061 ✭✭✭leggo


    Was never a big Sting guy, but loved how they handled his debut. It's rare these days that you feel like something big and game-changing is happening, and I think WWE handed it inch perfectly.

    While I wasn't around for his peak, as a kid and still to this day, Vader never caught on with me. Always just saw him as just a fat guy and his mask always bothered me. Like if you're gonna try cover your face, do a better job! (I was a cynical smart arse even as a kid)


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    #1190
    mrkiscool2
    Registered Users Posts: 5,159 ✭✭✭mrkiscool2


    leggo wrote: »
    Was never a big Sting guy, but loved how they handled his debut. It's rare these days that you feel like something big and game-changing is happening, and I think WWE handed it inch perfectly.

    While I wasn't around for his peak, as a kid and still to this day, Vader never caught on with me. Always just saw him as just a fat guy and his mask always bothered me. Like if you're gonna try cover your face, do a better job! (I was a cynical smart arse even as a kid)
    I never imagined you being any other way Leggo :P


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    #1191
    Stereomaniac
    Registered Users Posts: 6,166 ✭✭✭Stereomaniac


    If you're going to name yourself after a toy, at least call yourself Hasbro or something cool. ;)


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    #1192
    Vision of Disorder
    Registered Users Posts: 645 ✭✭✭Vision of Disorder


    I think the Sting debut just took a dump over the existing full-time talent. None of the day to day guys can stop HHH but his plots are ruined by a pudgy old man... Dolph Ziggler's potential breakout moment was about Sting and HHH - all that is wrong with pro wrestling today in a snapshot...


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    #1193
    Stereomaniac
    Registered Users Posts: 6,166 ✭✭✭Stereomaniac


    Then the following night you have Sting not even turning up on Raw, so it's as if they're talking to no one. "He was standing right there, honest!" kind of a buzz. Send Sting to NXT there. :)


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    #1194
    ricero
    Closed Accounts Posts: 11,348 ✭✭✭✭ricero


    Jeremy borash makes heel Michael cole sound like JR. Borash sucks or is this popular perhaps ?


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    #1195
    Stereomaniac
    Registered Users Posts: 6,166 ✭✭✭Stereomaniac


    I think wrestling was better when it moved at a slower pace in the ring. Maybe that's popular.


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    #1196
    Scavenger XIII
    Registered Users Posts: 1,966 ✭✭✭Scavenger XIII


    Vision of Disorder wrote: »
    I think the Sting debut just took a dump over the existing full-time talent. None of the day to day guys can stop HHH but his plots are ruined by a pudgy old man... Dolph Ziggler's potential breakout moment was about Sting and HHH - all that is wrong with pro wrestling today in a snapshot...

    You could apply that to a lot of things but I don't think it's fair for this one.

    Ziggler blatantly won the match by himself fair and square 2-3 times at that point, Sting just made the save to undo the interference and general cheating at the finish.

    I myself made the point earlier about how Bryan couldn't stop HHH, Shield couldn't stop HHH (despite both getting the in-ring victories), but for his final (hah!) defeat - I'm damn glad that moment went to Sting and not Cena as usual like I expected (even if he is obviously a bit past it).

    Fair enough he did steal a bit of the spotlight but Ziggler still looked a million bucks, he was channeling one of HBKs classic SS comebacks the whole time.


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    #1197
    Moneymaker
    Registered Users Posts: 9,846 ✭✭✭Moneymaker


    Anyone who doesn't think Ziggler came out of that looking like a star needs their head examined.


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    #1198
    the groutch
    Closed Accounts Posts: 16,096 ✭✭✭✭the groutch


    They equally killed Ziggler's buzz by having Cena come back out after the match to celebrate with him.


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    #1199
    laoch na mona
    Registered Users Posts: 2,966 ✭✭✭laoch na mona


    the divas storyline is crap, with no depth beyond "women are bitchy lol"


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    #1200
    CSF
    Registered Users Posts: 33,235 ✭✭✭✭CSF


    Moneymaker wrote: »
    Anyone who doesn't think Ziggler came out of that looking like a star needs their head examined.

    Yeah but they need to find new obstacles for him to overcome. A loss to Rollins or someone in the near future would end everything. The Big Show would be perfect.


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    #1201
    CSF
    Registered Users Posts: 33,235 ✭✭✭✭CSF


    laoch na mona wrote: »
    the divas storyline is crap, with no depth beyond "women are bitchy lol"

    Why waste storylines on below-par characters like the Bellas? The only 2 worth worrying about are AJ and Paige and AJ is getting the a Punk backlash.

    I'm sure it's gonna be face Paige taking the title from Nikki Bella at Wrestlemania and I'm sure for that they'll up their game a bit to get her over as the top diva face for the year to come.


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