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Best versions of all Alien movie's to watch?

  • 17-06-2012 10:21pm
    #1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,128 ✭✭✭


    Hi Guys,

    I never seen any of the Alien movies before (I've no idea how i missed them). I've just bought Alien Anthology on blu-ray and see that they have the theatrical and directors cut of all 4 movies included. I'm wondering which versions I should watch first time to get the most out of them. I've heard that the directors cut of 3 is alot better than the theatrical cut but I would like your views (without spoilers) :)


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  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Arts Moderators, Entertainment Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 22,682 CMod ✭✭✭✭Sad Professor


    Watch the theatrical cut of Alien, which is the actual director's cut. The so-called "director's cut" is really just a slightly tighter version with one or two extra scenes that Scott did a few years ago under pressure from the studio. Unless you are a big fan of the film, there's not much difference. Some people prefer the director's cut, but watch the original version first.

    Watch the Special Edition of Aliens. It's a longer and more complete version of the film.

    There is no director's cut of Alien 3. Fincher never got to complete the film as he intended and was fired/quit before editing was completed. The theatrical cut was put together by a bunch of monkeys at Fox. The workprint cut on the Blu-ray is just a recreation of the last version of the film Fincher was involved in. It's a little rough, but gives you a better idea of what he was trying to achieve. Watch that first, I guess.

    It doesn't really matter what version of Resurrection you watch.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,679 ✭✭✭hidinginthebush


    I always preferred the theatrical cut of Aliens, that way
    you don't get to see the aliens until well into the film, I feel it builds the suspense a good bit for the first hour, before all the madness kicks off, where in the director's cut, we see them early on, so we know pretty much what's gonna happen


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,153 ✭✭✭TheIrishGrover


    .......It doesn't really matter what version of Resurrection you watch.....

    Ain't that the truth


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,516 ✭✭✭Outkast_IRE


    Ain't that the truth
    Im not going to sing its praises but is it wrong of me to say i went back and watched the directors cut of it last year and didnt think it was as bad as i initially remembered.

    I will go as far as saying it would of been a solid addition if the final 1/3rd was stronger, also i would maybe of cut the hybrid alien crap out of it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,473 ✭✭✭Notch000


    I preferered 4 to 3,,,just oging ot put that out there !!

    Is the blue ray set worth getting ???(HMv 15E)
    I already have them on DVD (lent them out to sombody) but plan on watching again, how much enhanced is a 30yr old movie on blue ray ????


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  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Arts Moderators, Entertainment Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 22,682 CMod ✭✭✭✭Sad Professor


    Notch000 wrote: »
    IIs the blue ray set worth getting ???(HMv 15E)
    I already have them on DVD (lent them out to sombody) but plan on watching again, how much enhanced is a 30yr old movie on blue ray ????

    Alien looks fantastic on Blu-ray. Visually the film has aged very well. Aliens not so much, but they did a big clean-up for the Blu-ray.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 30,746 ✭✭✭✭Galvasean


    Notch000 wrote: »
    , how much enhanced is a 30yr old movie on blue ray ????

    As someone who had the DVD box set as well, I can assure you that the picture and audio quality on the BluRays are much much better.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 85 ✭✭Tayleur


    The extended version of 3 is better than the original. It makes for a more rounded movie. Id argue that it was more like the film fincher wanted than the theatrical cut that was forced on him. For me its the one movie in all four that is improved greatly by the extended version.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 545 ✭✭✭WatchWolf


    Alien - Theatrical

    Aliens - Director's Cut

    Alien 3 - Special Edition

    Alien 4 - Doesn't matter. It's ****e either way.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 327 ✭✭jc84


    Alien - theatrical

    aliens - special edition

    Alien 3 - assembly cut

    Alien: resurrection - definitely theatrical, I thought the special edition was put together for the sake of having a second version for the box set, the effects are crappy on the added scenes and make a bad movie even worse


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,128 ✭✭✭thorbarry


    Thanks a lot guys, i have an idea now of what to do


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 34,788 ✭✭✭✭krudler


    Notch000 wrote: »
    I preferered 4 to 3,,,just oging ot put that out there !!

    Is the blue ray set worth getting ???(HMv 15E)
    I already have them on DVD (lent them out to sombody) but plan on watching again, how much enhanced is a 30yr old movie on blue ray ????

    it puts the majority of modern sci-fi movies to shame


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 865 ✭✭✭FlashD


    I always prefered the theatrical cut of Aliens. It is shorter and moves quicker maintaining a better sense of urgency.

    In saying that, it dosen't really matter, either version is excellent.

    The director's cut to Alien 3 has a better beginning, that's a fact.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 34,788 ✭✭✭✭krudler


    FlashD wrote: »
    I always prefered the theatrical cut of Aliens. It is shorter and moves quicker maintaining a better sense of urgency.

    In saying that, it dosen't really matter, either version is excellent.

    The director's cut to Alien 3 has a better beginning, that's a fact.

    I like the sentry gun scene in the special edition of Aliens, not crazy about the scene showing Newts family finding the derelict ship though I prefered when you dont know how the aliens get into the colony.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,547 ✭✭✭Agricola


    Finally opened the Bluray set I got at Xmas and watched Aliens again last night with the directors commentary. The special edition of that is much better imo. Theres alot more filler (the good story enhancing and tension racheting kind) It never ceases to amaze me how so many classic movies are made in the teeth of the money men. Cameron mentions many times that he was being constantly harrassed by execs that there were too many talky scenes before the shooting started! He hit the nail on the head when he said thats a major issue of modern sci-fi (and movies in general) All the eye candy is front and centre from almost the first minute, there is no real payoff when it comes, as in Aliens.

    Thank God for DVD and now Bluray is all I can say.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,062 ✭✭✭al28283


    Aliens special edition stinks!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 34,788 ✭✭✭✭krudler


    Agricola wrote: »
    Finally opened the Bluray set I got at Xmas and watched Aliens again last night with the directors commentary. The special edition of that is much better imo. Theres alot more filler (the good story enhancing and tension racheting kind) It never ceases to amaze me how so many classic movies are made in the teeth of the money men. Cameron mentions many times that he was being constantly harrassed by execs that there were too many talky scenes before the shooting started! He hit the nail on the head when he said thats a major issue of modern sci-fi (and movies in general) All the eye candy is front and centre from almost the first minute, there is no real payoff when it comes, as in Aliens.

    Thank God for DVD and now Bluray is all I can say.

    Aliens is paced brilliantly, it cranks the tension to the point where when the action does kick off it never stops. the entire third act is one long action scene, from when the aliens cut the power in the room to Ripley fighting the queen it rarely lets up aside from a few pauses.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,065 ✭✭✭crazygeryy


    Anyone know why the blu ray anthology is 66 dollars on amazon.com and 18 sterling on amazon uk? Is there a difference in the two versions? The price difference is huge.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 34,788 ✭✭✭✭krudler


    crazygeryy wrote: »
    Anyone know why the blu ray anthology is 66 dollars on amazon.com and 18 sterling on amazon uk? Is there a difference in the two versions? The price difference is huge.

    there is a vanilla one with just the movies and then theres the one with the extras and making of docs, get the one with the extras, its one of the best blu-ray releases ever. its 25 euro on zavvi: http://www.zavvi.com/blu-ray/alien-anthology-box-set/10227029.html?vtp=b


  • Administrators, Computer Games Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 32,405 Admin ✭✭✭✭✭Mickeroo


    I agree the extended version of ALiens is more complete, but I think it also kills the excellent pacing of the Theatrical cut. There's a few great scenes in the extended one that make it worth the watch though. Namely
    the sentry gun sequence, I also liked the little bit where Hicks and Ripley tell eachother their first names before she heads off to kick some ass


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 34,788 ✭✭✭✭krudler


    Mickeroo wrote: »
    I agree the extended version of ALiens is more complete, but I think it also kills the excellent pacing of the Theatrical cut. There's a few great scenes in the extended one that make it worth the watch though. Namely
    the sentry gun sequence, I also liked the little bit where Hicks and Ripley tell eachother their first names before she heads off to kick some ass

    Yeah some of the additions are good, the sentry and scene you mentioned, and when they talk about there being a queen alien, Ripley talking about her daughter adds to the whole Newt thing but its not a great scene overall.


  • Moderators, Computer Games Moderators Posts: 6,335 Mod ✭✭✭✭PerrinV2


    krudler wrote: »
    Yeah some of the additions are good, the sentry and scene you mentioned, and when they talk about there being a queen alien, Ripley talking about her daughter adds to the whole Newt thing but its not a great scene overall.

    Is this the extended version yer refering to?
    If so they showed that version on film 4 last week


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,556 ✭✭✭the_monkey


    For me

    Alien - Dir. Cut
    Aliens - Special ed.
    Alien3 - "Dir. cut" - I cannot stress this enough, it IS a different and far superior film ...

    And for me thats the TRILOGY --- I SAY TRILOGY..... Like the Indiana Jones TRILOGY ...

    :p:p:p:p


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,106 ✭✭✭Technocentral


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  • Administrators, Computer Games Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 32,405 Admin ✭✭✭✭✭Mickeroo


    PerrinV2 wrote: »
    Is this the extended version yer refering to?
    If so they showed that version on film 4 last week

    Yea, it was on Channel 4 last week too and they showed the extended one. Seems they always show that version.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,976 ✭✭✭✭humanji


    Agricola wrote: »
    Cameron mentions many times that he was being constantly harrassed by execs that there were too many talky scenes before the shooting started! He hit the nail on the head when he said thats a major issue of modern sci-fi (and movies in general) All the eye candy is front and centre from almost the first minute, there is no real payoff when it comes, as in Aliens.
    And then he went on to make Avatar. :D


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 8,417 ✭✭✭Miguel_Sanchez


    krudler wrote: »
    there is a vanilla one with just the movies and then theres the one with the extras and making of docs, get the one with the extras, its one of the best blu-ray releases ever. its 25 euro on zavvi: http://www.zavvi.com/blu-ray/alien-anthology-box-set/10227029.html?vtp=b

    Got the one with all the extras for 10.49 from sendit.com a while back - it was on offer though, it's gone up in price again since then.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,106 ✭✭✭Technocentral


    15.99 in HMV for blu ray boxset yesterday.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 30,746 ✭✭✭✭Galvasean


    €15 for the 4 films on BluRay in Xtra Vision. Contains both versions of each film and (I'm fairly sure) all of the extras too, albeit not as nice packaging* as the one in the link above.


    One caveat though, the nicer packaging is a bit taller than your average BluRay case so might not fit in a BluRay specific storage area.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,128 ✭✭✭thorbarry


    OP here. I finally got around to watching all of these movies

    Alien (Theatrical) - Great horror movie, still looks good to this day. Characters are great in it too. Really good tension, and suspense building.

    Aliens (Special Edition) - Just great, simple as. I dont know why I never watched it before, great action movie, really good characters.

    Alien 3 (Assembly Cut) - So, I found it a bit difficult to watch, it was a bit boring. I didnt care for the look of the film at all, it looked a bit "muddy" if that makes any sense. I didnt care for any of the characters apart from Ripley

    Alien Resurrection - First off, I enjoyed this movie. I'm not saying it was a great/ good movie, but I enjoyed it. The mercenaries were good, some dodgy acting aside. I felt it flowed much better than Alien 3, like it knew where it was going. So I quite enjoyed it, even tho it was a bit of a cheese-fest.

    Alien and Aliens are far superior films than the latter 2. We are actually lucky we got 2 good movies.


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