Price of kindle books!

Cork24

I was looking at a few books and when I saw the price of the ebook to a paper book my jaw nearly hit the floor it's a joke you not saving anything but in fact costing more for ebooks

No wonder torrents are growing

So do you pay or torrent your books

leggo

Books are one thing I definitely wouldn't torrent. Don't ask me why, I'm sure just as much work goes into producing a good album and moreso into a movie/TV show etc, but I write myself so just couldn't bring myself to do that.*

*That is unless I've bought the book already and want it as an ebook. I'm not paying for it twice.

aaronjumper

The fact that you can store loads of books in a tiny space. That you could take it with you to read any book you want instead of dragging a trailer full behind you. It's supposed to be for people that travel a lot.

Shenshen

I don't have a Kindle, I don't like them. I own around 2000 books, all in paper.

I do however have an iPad, and I have some books on this, all classics you can get for free legally.

Nichololas

aaronjumper wrote: »

The fact that you can store loads of books in a tiny space. That you could take it with you to read any book you want instead of dragging a trailer full behind you. It's supposed to be for people that travel a lot.

Yeah, and all the printing and manufacturing costs.. Wait.

Dravokivich

Disagreeing with the price of something is not a reason to take it for free.

sock puppet

While on average eBooks should be a little cheaper books don't cost much at all to produce, so eBooks should only be a little cheaper than paper books.

desertcircus

I've found the opposite; most of the books I've thought to check in the Kindle Store have been significantly cheaper than the paper equivalents. Reasonably newly published books are usually the same in dollars as paper books are in euro.

MagicMarker

Astonishingly, ebooks cost pretty much the same as hardcopies to produce. Sucks but it's true.

Oh, and BTW, kindles are the greatest gadget in existence. I'd be lost without mine.

Cork24

I know it cost the same to for both sides of the book but once it's writing surly the ebook should cost less,

I'm looking at computer books which each can cost anything from 40 to 120 euros

Run_to_da_hills

MagicMarker wrote: »

Astonishingly, ebooks cost pretty much the same as hardcopies to produce. Sucks but it's true.

Oh, and BTW, kindles are the greatest gadget in existence. I'd be lost without mine.

How could that be?

Initial prototype copy maybe but once a digital copy is mastered it can be streamed through a server indefinably without extra print, hard copy or distribution expenses.

--LOS--

newsflash you can download them for free

UglyBolloxFace

Cork24 wrote: »

I was looking at a few books and when I saw the price of the ebook to a paper book my jaw nearly hit the floor it's a joke you not saving anything but in fact costing more for ebooks

No wonder torrents are growing

So do you pay or torrent your books

Nice try, FBI.

Jimoslimos

Shenshen wrote: »

I don't have a Kindle, I don't like them. I own around 2000 books, all in paper.

I do however have an iPad, and I have some books on this, all classics you can get for free legally.

Preferring paper books is one thing, but for a dedicated reading device, Kindles or any of the other e-ink readers are far superior to a backlit LCD iPad screen.

tigger123

Jimoslimos wrote: »

Preferring paper books is one thing, but for a dedicated reading device, Kindles or any of the other e-ink readers are far superior to a backlit LCD iPad screen.

+ 1. I have a Sony E-Reader since Christmas, it's my most prized possession, goes everywhere with me.

Shenshen

Jimoslimos wrote: »

Preferring paper books is one thing, but for a dedicated reading device, Kindles or any of the other e-ink readers are far superior to a backlit LCD iPad screen.

To be perfectly honest, I don't have the money to spend to buy something with only one function, namely to allow me to read books at the same price as paper ones...

Go to the library.

Gloomtastic!

MagicMarker wrote: »

Astonishingly, ebooks cost pretty much the same as hardcopies to produce. Sucks but it's true.

Oh, and BTW, kindles are the greatest gadget in existence. I'd be lost without mine.

How so? No pre press, print, paper or distribution costs.

phasers

Deleted User wrote: »

Go to the library.

I want to go to the library but I think I owe them a ton of money... I miss the library...

Anyway I torrent some books (I'll be fcuked if I'm paying for The Hunger Games) but there's no real selection. If I actually want a book I go and buy a real copy.

sock puppet

Run_to_da_hills wrote: »

How could that be?

Initial prototype copy maybe but once a digital copy is mastered it can be streamed through a server indefinably without extra print, hard copy or distribution expenses.

Gloomtastic! wrote: »

How so? No pre press, print, paper or distribution costs.

Do you guys buy blank books and fill them in yourselves or something?

Cork24

--LOS-- wrote: »

newsflash you can download them for free

Really ?? :eek::eek:

Cork24

UglyBolloxFace wrote: »

Nice try, FBI.

I wish i worked for them

The_Minister

Shenshen wrote: »

To be perfectly honest, I don't have the money to spend to buy something with only one function, namely to allow me to read books at the same price as paper ones...

You can get a huge number of books for free, legally, from websites such as Gutenberg.org

FullRetard

I have a kindle and love it.Just dont have room to keep all my hard copy books and end up selling most of them.

Have I torrented some books?Yes but to be honest any book released by one of my favourite authors will be bought @20+€;(hardback).

also a lot of books I have read that have been torrented I wouldnt of bought anyway so the author wouldnt of made money either way.

For me personally I have never had a problem paying top dollar for new books or games,only download ones I normaly wouldnt read or play and more often than not wouldnt continue past the first few chapters

robinph

Deleted User wrote: »

Go to the library.

You can get ebooks for free from the library as well:

http://digitallibrary.southdublin.ie/

or free from Amazon:

http://www.amazon.co.uk/b/ref=amb_link_157681107_37?ie=UTF8&node=434020031&pf_rd_m=A3P5ROKL5A1OLE&pf_rd_s=left-2&pf_rd_r=0SENE4VZJGBHRDAXGZ7S&pf_rd_t=101&pf_rd_p=298664427&pf_rd_i=341689031

or free from Project Gutenberg:

http://www.gutenberg.org/

or many other places, and all legally.

Giselle

I would love the creative ability to write, and write well. Its a talent I really admire and reading is my great love. I would never deny an author an income from their work, they deserve it for giving me the pleasure and escapism of their stories. So no, I've never downloaded books illegally.

I have a kindle and even though I'm a complete techno-idiot, its my favourite thing ever. I have a backlit Kindle Fire tablet/eReader that I use to read in the dark in bed, and I bought a regular Kindle Touch that comes everywhere with me. Everywhere I go, I take at least 200 books because of that Kindle. I used to be devoted to paper, never saw myself embracing the Kindle, but now I never look back.

Every cent I spend on Kindle books is money well spent for the enjoyment they give me.

Sulla Felix

FullRetard wrote: »

also a lot of books I have read that have been torrented I wouldnt of bought anyway so the author wouldnt of made money either way.

For me personally I have never had a problem paying top dollar for new books or games,only download ones I normaly wouldnt read or play and more often than not wouldnt continue past the first few chapters

I don't understand that logic whatsoever. You get all the benefit of reading the book, watching the movie or whatever, but none of the guild because "I wouldn't have paid money for it if it wasn't available for free" basically?


Anyway, link for people saying ebooks are free to produce.

http://www.teleread.com/ebooks/e-books-do-not-cost-nothing-to-produce/

Sarn

I agree that there is an initial cost in putting together an ebook. However, after that initial outlay the cost drops significantly. This should be reflected in the price of the ebook over time. As the books I read are generally half the price in paperback, I am reluctant to pay the premium for ebooks at the moment.

The Snipe

I've a kindle and I find the books are very cheap, then again, I order from Amazon.com not UK because its cheaper

Giselle

The Snipe wrote: »

I've a kindle and I find the books are very cheap, then again, I order from Amazon.com not UK because its cheaper

I don't think you actually have a choice from where you order.

The Snipe

Giselle wrote: »

I don't think you actually have a choice from where you order.

Nope, my account is set up with Amazon.com and I get charged in USD.

Giselle

The Snipe wrote: »

Nope, my account is set up with Amazon.com and I get charged in USD.

All Irish customers are sent to the Amazon.com site and billed in USD. Its to do with DRM, as far as I know. I don't know anyone who buys their ebooks from Ireland through any other Amazon site.

Thats what I mean by you not having a choice in the matter.

From http://www.irishpublishingnews.com/tag/irish-kindle/

''Irish customers must buy Kindle ebooks from the Amazon.com site too*. This wrinkle means that although there are now four Euro denominated Kindle stores (Spain, Italy, Germany and France) Irish buyers purchase their ebooks in Dollars and with a slight price disadvantage.''

hairyprincess

Love, love, love my Kindle. I wouldn't be without it! I don't think the books are any more expensive than paper books. And they have a daily 99p book.

I'm definitely reading a lot more since I got it, so for that it wins!

Cork24

How much cheaper are they if you buy them from the American Amazon as when i go to buy books its taken me to the Uk Site which is in pound

fortwilliam

MagicMarker wrote: »

Oh, and BTW, kindles are the greatest gadget in existence. I'd be lost without mine.

Kindle have GPS now ?

Cork24

This is what i cant understand...


Kindle Edition 47 USD
http://www.amazon.com/Certified-Wireless-Administrator-Official-ebook/dp/B00316UMWG/ref=sr_1_4?ie=UTF8&qid=1340058848&sr=8-4&keywords=CWNA

Paperback 37 USD
http://www.amazon.com/CWNA-Certified-Wireless-Administrator-Official/dp/111812779X/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1340058848&sr=8-1&keywords=CWNA

Giselle

Cork24 wrote: »

How much cheaper are they if you buy them from the American Amazon as when i go to buy books its taken me to the Uk Site which is in pound

I don't know about paper books, but its much of a muchness with the eBooks.

robinph

Cork24 wrote: »

This is what i cant understand...


Kindle Edition 47 USD
http://www.amazon.com/Certified-Wireless-Administrator-Official-ebook/dp/B00316UMWG/ref=sr_1_4?ie=UTF8&qid=1340058848&sr=8-4&keywords=CWNA

Paperback 37 USD
http://www.amazon.com/CWNA-Certified-Wireless-Administrator-Official/dp/111812779X/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1340058848&sr=8-1&keywords=CWNA

Because they can get away with it?

I'd not be able to make use of a technical book on the likes of a kindle though, would need to be the hard copy for it to be of use. Of course those books would tend to weigh a ton so that makes the electronic version easier to cart about, but still wouldn't be able to "read" such a book kindle'ified.

The_Thing

Giselle wrote: »

I would love the creative ability to write, and write well. Its a talent I really admire and reading is my great love. I would never deny an author an income from their work, they deserve it for giving me the pleasure and escapism of their stories. So no, I've never downloaded books illegally.

I have a kindle and even though I'm a complete techno-idiot, its my favourite thing ever. I have a backlit Kindle Fire tablet/eReader that I use to read in the dark in bed, and I bought a regular Kindle Touch that comes everywhere with me. Everywhere I go, I take at least 200 books because of that Kindle. I used to be devoted to paper, never saw myself embracing the Kindle, but now I never look back.

Every cent I spend on Kindle books is money well spent for the enjoyment they give me.

Giselle, nothing ventured, nothing gained as they say so here's a few links you or others may be interested in:

http://absolutewrite.com/

http://absolutewrite.com/forums/index.php

Jimoslimos

robinph wrote: »

Because they can get away with it?

I'd not be able to make use of a technical book on the likes of a kindle though, would need to be the hard copy for it to be of use. Of course those books would tend to weigh a ton so that makes the electronic version easier to cart about, but still wouldn't be able to "read" such a book kindle'ified.

Kindle DX is a larger version (9" screen I think) which makes it more suitable for reading technical pdf documents without conversion. Heard rumours that it was to be discontinued though. In this case I can see the advantage of an iPad/tablet, but for general reading, no.

Rango555

Sulla Felix wrote: »

Anyway, link for people saying ebooks are free to produce.

http://www.teleread.com/ebooks/e-books-do-not-cost-nothing-to-produce/

Your link doesn't really help your argument... the author sums up with

McFadden does admit she may not be putting Chabon’s words into the right context. And I think that’s right. She’s kind of comparing apples and oranges. Yes, e-books have fixed costs of production, of the sort she describes. So do paper books. And they share many of the same costs, and (as McFadden notes) since e-book publishing and print publishing are often treated as two separate things instead of one thing with two separate products, they often duplicate those costs. But what Chabon is talking about when he says they “cost nothing to produce” is the marginal cost. It costs a certain amount of money to run off each paper book, to ship it, to store it, and possibly to ship it back and destroy it. But e-books have such a miniscule production cost per unit—a few watts of electricity, a few kilobytes of bandwidth—that they effectively cost nothing to run off each digital copy. So if we assume that fixed costs are equal, e-books will earn those costs out much faster while not adding any marginal ones.

Also the comments on it are an interesting read.