Ulster Bank League 2012-2013 talk/gossip/rumours

lurtz

Hagz wrote: »

I'll put it in a link so. Wimps.

why do you feel the need to post pictures of bad injuries! Start your own sadistic thread if you want to do that! Id imagine there are very few people who actually play rugby that would find that sort of stuff interesting

Hagz

lurtz wrote: »

why do you feel the need to post pictures of bad injuries! Start your own sadistic thread if you want to do that! Id imagine there are very few people who actually play rugby that would find that sort of stuff interesting

I didn't FEEL the need. It's not like I had an urge. I was checking through the photos on INPHO.ie of the Lansdowne/CC game and they had about 4 photos of O'Hara breaking his leg (a lot worse ones than what I posted). I didn't read a match review first so the pictures were how I learnt of the news. From a personal perspective I posted it in a sympathetic frame of mind. I certainly didn't post it because I have an interest in broken bones....
I realise now that some people find such pictures offensive, though I can't say I'm able to relate to those people, and I took it down. That should be the end of it.

CatFromHue

The funny thing is the pic is only shown in lurtz's post!

madds

ormond lad wrote: »

Good win for Nenagh in 2B.
Beat Boyne 18-16
Moment of game was when our 7 got the ball around halfway. One of the Boyne coaches was standing behind the tryline his side were defending and shouted out "its Ok he's only a 7". Our 7 then outspinted the 3/4 Boyne defenders in front of him to score a try that turned out to be the winning score

Rest of todays results
http://www.irishrugby.ie/ulsterbankleague/28451.php

Saw something similar in our (Barnhall NUIM's) match against Connemara. Our #5 split through the AB's defence on their 10-metre line and neither their covering wing or full back could put a hand on him! Great win for the Blues which puts us into second with 4 games remaining.

Not Playing Tiddlywinks Vinny

Another 5 star finish from Tarf, 41-13 against Belvo in Anglesea Rd. Crawfrod with 3, Lett and McGrath scored for Tarf, well deserved win. If they'd produced performances like this from the off they'd be challenging Lansdowne at the top

bamboozle

Not Playing Tiddlywinks Vinny wrote: »

Another 5 star finish from Tarf, 41-13 against Belvo in Anglesea Rd. Crawfrod with 3, Lett and McGrath scored for Tarf, well deserved win. If they'd produced performances like this from the off they'd be challenging Lansdowne at the top

Great performance, Lett got 2 in the end. 3 BP's in a row for Clontarf and Collie O'Shea made his injury comeback. 2 injury time defeats to Con and Lansdowne didnt help our chances this season. Thought Cronin at 9 ran the show, Danny Riordan impressive as always for Belvo.

good standard of rugby from both backlines.

backgreen

will be a right tussle at the bottom between shannon/bohs/old belv even dolphin could be in the mix

CGD

Belvo are in a bad run and must be worried Shannon seem to be improving just at the right time

blackbelt

bamboozle wrote: »

Great performance, Lett got 2 in the end. 3 BP's in a row for Clontarf and Collie O'Shea made his injury comeback. 2 injury time defeats to Con and Lansdowne didnt help our chances this season. Thought Cronin at 9 ran the show, Danny Riordan impressive as always for Belvo.

good standard of rugby from both backlines.

Would have to agree RE Cronin, I thought himself and Lett were immense.
Overall I have to say I was in shock at how we ran away with it in the second half.I thought OB were well in the game even at half time and was hoping the 3 penalty misses wouldn't come back to haunt us but it was a different game in the second half.

The last try for Tarf was just total humiliation the way it was intercepted.
Thought the match officials weren't at the races in the first half.Seemed to let OB away with some high tackles though thankfully the ref got a grip of the game in the second.

backgreen

shannon on fire against con 5 tries 38-19 with 10 min remaining

phog

backgreen wrote: »

shannon on fire against con 5 tries 38-19 with 10 min remaining

Hockeyed Cons, won 45 - 19, Niall Ronan scored Shannon's first or second try. Sounded like a great game for the home team.

awec

Are scores like Dungannon 15 - 86 UCD frequent in the AIL? :eek:

ormond lad

awec wrote: »

Are scores like Dungannon 15 - 86 UCD frequent in the AIL? :eek:

No not that frequent at all.

We lost up in Naas to last minute kick that prob ends our chances of promotion
Results from all divisions below
http://www.irishrugby.ie/ulsterbankleague/28513.php

Hagz

4 tries from Sam Coghlan Murray

bamboozle

blackbelt wrote: »

Would have to agree RE Cronin, I thought himself and Lett were immense.
Overall I have to say I was in shock at how we ran away with it in the second half.I thought OB were well in the game even at half time and was hoping the 3 penalty misses wouldn't come back to haunt us but it was a different game in the second half.

The last try for Tarf was just total humiliation the way it was intercepted.
Thought the match officials weren't at the races in the first half.Seemed to let OB away with some high tackles though thankfully the ref got a grip of the game in the second.

Fawlty towers reffing in the Mary's Garryowen game today, Garryowen had a try disallowed where there prop seemed to ground the ball then it rolled away, late in the game a marys kick was caught by the garryowen fullback in the air - he landed in touch so it should have been a garryowen lineout as the ball went out on the full, ref gave it as a marys lineout where it was caught, in the confusion marys took a quick lineout and scored.

apart from that the ref seemed to penalise marys every time they attacked.

comical stuff ruined a good game.

Not Playing Tiddlywinks Vinny

Lansdowne wrapped up the league in style today, blew away YM in aviva. was 37 - 3 with 5 left finished 37-17 with 2 late converted tries

CIARAN_BOYLE

awec wrote: »

Are scores like Dungannon 15 - 86 UCD frequent in the AIL? :eek:

I'd say that there is a hammering most weeks in 1B and every two or three weeks in 1A. They are the only divisions that I keep a close eye on so so I'm not sure about division 2 but that is one of the most one sided games in the AIL this season.

awec

How many trys was it? Anyone know?

lurtz

awec wrote: »

How many trys was it? Anyone know?

Think it was 14,coghlan murray got 4

lurtz

CIARAN_BOYLE wrote: »

I'd say that there is a hammering most weeks in 1B and every two or three weeks in 1A. They are the only divisions that I keep a close eye on so so I'm not sure about division 2 but that is one of the most one sided games in the AIL this season.

there are big scores like 40 or 50 points but nothing like that

FellasFellas

Rumour has it that Jordan Coghlan might be moving from UCD to one of either Lansdowne or Tarf next year if UCD don't get promoted to 1A.

Not Playing Tiddlywinks Vinny

FellasFellas wrote: »

Rumour has it that Jordan Coghlan might be moving from UCD to one of either Lansdowne or Tarf next year if UCD don't get promoted to 1A.

I'd say he won't be the only one. Should UCD and DCU not go up than i'd be expecting a lot of Academy, Development contracted lads to move to the likes of Mary's Tarf, Belvo and Lansdowne should all stay up. The like of Leavy, McGrath, the Byrnes, Thornbury, Gilsenan etc to move on.

Similarly it looks like Hinch are comin up, would this mean an influx of Ulster lads joining them?

ormond lad

Irish Club side to face Scotland friday night
http://www.leinsterrugby.ie/domestic/newsroom/11109.php
15. Richard Mullane (Shannon)
14. Cian Ahearne (Lansdowne)
13. Killian Lett (Clontarf)
12. Stuart Morrow (Ballynahinch)
11. Darragh Fanning (St. Mary’s College)
10. Gavin Dunne (St. Mary’s College)
9. Gerry Hurley (Cork Constitution)
1. Colm McMahon (St. Mary’s College)
2. Ristead Byrne (UCD)
3. Kevin Griffin (Shannon)
4. Simon Crawford (Clontarf)
5. Ben Reilly (Clontarf)
6. William Ryan (UCC)
7. Danny Kenny (UCD)
8. Frank Cogan (Cork Constitution)
Subs
16. Pat O’Regan (Old Belvedere)
17. Richard Sweeney (St. Mary’s College)
18. Charlie Butterworth (Lansdowne)
19. Brian Quill (UCC)
20. Sam Cronin (Clontarf)
21. Darragh Lyons (Cork Constitution)
22. Foster Horan (Lansdowne)

Stainalert

Not Playing Tiddlywinks Vinny wrote: »

I'd say he won't be the only one. Should UCD and DCU not go up than i'd be expecting a lot of Academy, Development contracted lads to move to the likes of Mary's Tarf, Belvo and Lansdowne should all stay up. The like of Leavy, McGrath, the Byrnes, Thornbury, Gilsenan etc to move on.

Similarly it looks like Hinch are comin up, would this mean an influx of Ulster lads joining them?

Load of these guys on scholarships so can't see how they would be allowed move

CIARAN_BOYLE

Stainalert wrote: »

Load of these guys on scholarships so can't see how they would be allowed move

they would have to give up the scholarship and rely on just the money they get from being in the leinster academy

CGD

CIARAN_BOYLE wrote: »

they would have to give up the scholarship and rely on just the money they get from being in the leinster academy

Lads on Scholarships and in academy will not move as it covers, accomadation, tuition, linked to extra points they got for choosing UCD or DUC and the few quid they get as well. Lads now finishing their 3 or 4 year course will look seriously at moving

lurtz

CGD wrote: »

Lads on Scholarships and in academy will not move as it covers, accomadation, tuition, linked to extra points they got for choosing UCD or DUC and the few quid they get as well. Lads now finishing their 3 or 4 year course will look seriously at moving

most of the lads arent living on campus and I doubt theyd be kicked out of their course for leaving the scholarship so I think they are able to move

CGD

lurtz wrote: »

most of the lads arent living on campus and I doubt theyd be kicked out of their course for leaving the scholarship so I think they are able to move

Not as easily as you would think and has been tried before

opinionatedfan

Coghlan will be in college three years this may. Very possible he is finishing up.

lurtz

opinionatedfan wrote: »

Coghlan will be in college three years this may. Very possible he is finishing up.

its not possible he'll be finishing up because he's in first year commerce

FellasFellas

opinionatedfan wrote: »

Coghlan will be in college three years this may. Very possible he is finishing up.

No no, Coghlan will be in college one year this May.

opinionatedfan

yeah i'm after getting him confused about when he left clongowes.

Not Playing Tiddlywinks Vinny

Could imagine for someone like coughlan he'd be able to get the equivalent of what UCD are giving him from clubs lie Belvo, Lansdowne etc....... Can't see how a scholarship is gonna tie him down when 1A clubs could easily match it

backgreen

if all these guys move to 1A clubs there is going to be a vast difference in standards between 1A and the rest of the league div.eventually like a sermi-pro set up

CGD

Not Playing Tiddlywinks Vinny wrote: »

Could imagine for someone like coughlan he'd be able to get the equivalent of what UCD are giving him from clubs lie Belvo, Lansdowne etc....... Can't see how a scholarship is gonna tie him down when 1A clubs could easily match it

People are way off the mark with what they "think" clubs pay players most big clubs reduced playing fees the last 2 years with lads from the so called bigger clubs on match fees of about €150 if they win. I have heard of big money in lower divisions and especially junior level being paid but monbey in top clubs goes on facillites, coaches, gym, gear etc, etc sponsorship is way down. UCD use tax payers money to support their programme so we all own a part of that team

lurtz

CGD wrote: »

People are way off the mark with what they "think" clubs pay players most big clubs reduced playing fees the last 2 years with lads from the so called bigger clubs on match fees of about €150 if they win. I have heard of big money in lower divisions and especially junior level being paid but monbey in top clubs goes on facillites, coaches, gym, gear etc, etc sponsorship is way down. UCD use tax payers money to support their programme so we all own a part of that team

Ive heard stories of certain 1A clubs paying big bucks to their players. The IRFU are seriously clamping down though I think,there was a survey about it on the site recently and Billy Glynn said at a dinner a major announcement is set to be made soon regarding the domestic game

shaungil

I belieive often sponsors or generous benefactors willentice players. Also give accomadation etc. Not strictly through the club though so can't really be policed

CGD

shaungil wrote: »

I belieive often sponsors or generous benefactors willentice players. Also give accomadation etc. Not strictly through the club though so can't really be policed

Did happen in Celtic Tiger era no doubt but this is not happening too often anymore. Think of all the overseas players in clubs a few years back and take a look now very few around as money is gone. There will always be a few quid around in rugby but people would be suprised to learn that it is not the so called big powerful clubs that are throwing it around but a lot of the smaller/lower division clubs looking to rise up the divisions but foolish strategy in the long run

shaungil

The exammple I know of is a Div 1a club who gave lads a room in a house when they were in college and also got spending money. maybe EUR100 a week. This was last season.

Stainalert

Completely agree although is one club in 1A which actually owns a couple of houses and lets players stay for free

CGD

Stainalert wrote: »

Completely agree although is one club in 1A which actually owns a couple of houses and lets players stay for free

Yeah a couple of clubs would have club houses which they have had for many years given rent free for maybe one or two seasons but not on the scale any of the colleges can offer

ormond lad

Many games scheduled for tomorrow off does anyone know?
Nenagh and Ards in 2B is off.

Gargled

ormond lad wrote: »

Many games scheduled for tomorrow off does anyone know?
Nenagh and Ards in 2B is off.

Marys game is off

JustinDee

A summary of games postponed this weekend. Tried posting an screen capture but to no avail so copied into notepad.

Div1A Clontarf P-P Dolphin
Div1A St. Mary's College P-P Shannon
Div1B Bruff P-P Dungannon
Div1B Dublin University PvP Ballynahinch
Div1B Malone P-P Blackrock College RFC
Div2A Banbridge P-P Seapoint
Div2A D.L.S.P. PvP Queens University
Div2B Armagh PvP Rainey OB
Div2B Instonians P-P Suttonians
Div2B Nenagh Ormond P-P Ards
Div2B Skerries P-P Sligo

U-21 Cork Constitution P-P Dublin University

bamboozle

CGD wrote: »

Yeah a couple of clubs would have club houses which they have had for many years given rent free for maybe one or two seasons but not on the scale any of the colleges can offer

Agree with this. I'd expect the likes of Boyle, Coughlan, gilsenan, Doyle, Tracey, marsh, scm all look to move on from ucd and du if neither get promoted this season. For what it's worth Coughlan is a Raheny lad and played his cricket with Clontarf.

As we've seen with Connacht sending David Moore, Jarvis, loxton, Tj Anderson out to 1a teams this season it would make sense if academy players are filtered up into 1a, it would improve the quality of the league and aid the players development. I'm hoping the big ail change alluded to above is reintroducing the top 4 playoff. If ucd come second in 1b they'd be facing a playoff with probably belvo for a spot in 1a next season.

Ul bohs will be relegated, which should make 1a stronger if limerick only has 3 teams and an ulster team come up also.

bamboozle

Landowne v Clontarf on rte today kicking off at two. Plenty of academy talent on show, Moore, jack o Connell, sexton, collie o Shea, Reid, Flanagan plus the likes of ronaldson, tadhg Beirne, Burke-flunn, lett, Crawford.

Clontarf have won their last 4 with bonus points and will be looking to spoil the day.

IngazZagni

The Lansdowne/Clontarf game today could be a cracker if past matches and current form between these two is anything to go by. While Lansdowne have all but officially claimed the title, Clontarf are more than capable of spoiling the party and leave Lansdowne waiting another week. Looking forward to it.

Not Playing Tiddlywinks Vinny

This will be a belter on a surface that is great for quick running rugby, obviously suits Lansdowne, will definitely suit Tarf with the likes of D'arcy (7), Lett, McGrath other D'arcy and possibly Reid. This is game of the year without a doubt...........cant wait to go along to it. Lansdowne win the league if they win, Tarf need to win to keep their slimmest of league hopes alive......how they must rue the poor start of the season!

bamboozle

Not Playing Tiddlywinks Vinny wrote: »

This will be a belter on a surface that is great for quick running rugby, obviously suits Lansdowne, will definitely suit Tarf with the likes of D'arcy (7), Lett, McGrath other D'arcy and possibly Reid. This is game of the year without a doubt...........cant wait to go along to it. Lansdowne win the league if they win, Tarf need to win to keep their slimmest of league hopes alive......how they must rue the poor start of the season!

Should be a cracker, not making excuses but tarf were missing nearly half their team at start of season and lost their first two, in 8th min of injury time down in con...also lost in injury time at home to landowners - although better team won that day.cronin at 9 for tarf has been in cracking form recently, keep an eye on him and ben Reilly in second row, Fitzpatrick at ten is another class act finally overcoming injury woes.

trouttrout

bamboozle wrote: »

Landowne v Clontarf on rte today kicking off at two. Plenty of academy talent on show, Moore, jack o Connell, sexton, collie o Shea, Reid, Flanagan plus the likes of ronaldson, tadhg Beirne, Burke-flunn, lett, Crawford.

Clontarf have won their last 4 with bonus points and will be looking to spoil the day.

On telly too