No jail for father who killed his daughter's rapist

awec

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-18522383

Good decision IMO.

Basq

I wonder would the same crime have been justified if the daughter was of age? Unlikely!

Great decision.

kingtiger

what father wouldn't, he did well

I suppose you would get life imprisonment here

Dickerty

That is so good to hear. Call it temporary insanity, or self defence (where you are defending a minor) or whatever, but if this guy had done time, I would have lost what little faith I had left...

flutterflye

God the child was only 5.
I would have done the same.
There isn't a parent alive that wouldn't have done it too.
I agree - right decision.

Sykk

Good. This despicable scum of society deserved what he got.

kingtiger

kingtiger wrote: »

what father wouldn't, he did well

I suppose you would get life imprisonment here

Life here, and mr rapist would have come from a bad home, have 100 previous convictions, and it's not really his fault, go free
that or get 20 "concurrent" sentences of a month

Basq wrote: »

I wonder would the same crime have been justified if the daughter was of age? Unlikely!

Of course not, then it clearly would have been her fault and she was asking for it

Anyway not to be all doom and gloom, because I'm glad to hear that ruling

Washington Irving

Sometimes, the system works. Justice

the purple tin

He shouldn't go to jail. Sounds like he didn't really mean to kill him, he just lost it. If he had deliberately set out to kill him some time after the rape, he might be in trouble though.

flanders1979

It restores ones faith in humanity

steddyeddy

Great decision. If the survivors of abuse did the same here I would hope for the same decision.

Fizman

This is the first justice-related story I've agreed with in a very long time.

BattleCorp

Fair fcuks to him. He did what any normal man would do in the same circumstances.

Great to see a legal system that is also a justice system. Not always the case in this country.

mikemac1

Texas rocks

steddyeddy

BattleCorp wrote: »

Fair fcuks to him. He did what any normal man would do in the same circumstances.

Great to see a legal system that is also a justice system. Not always the case in this country.

Very true in this country where children were raped (many as young or younger than five) the gaurds would lose the file or keep it sitting in drawers for ages. Another Judge who I wont mention excused a man for having child porn (where children are often raped to make) because the man said he was lonely.

bbam

the purple tin wrote: »

He shouldn't go to jail. Sounds like he didn't really mean to kill him, he just lost it. If he had deliberately set out to kill him some time after the rape, he might be in trouble though.

To be honest I doubt he was thinking about the consequences at all.. He did what was right and its justice that he isn't in court over it... However, I'd guess that given the choice of facing trial he would still have gone ahead and beat the snot out of that monster.. I know being a father of two girls I certainly would have...
Then there is the great reassurance here in Ireland that If you did beat down on an offender like that here you would hardly do any serious time in jail and it would most likely be in an open prison as you wouldn't be a threat to anyone else in the general public...

TBH I'm surprised it doesn't happen more often....

Wasn't there a case here recently enough where a convicted rapist disappeared immediately after being released from jail... His hand or something was washed up on a beach some time later..

EDIT:
Here we go..
Justice for another Animal... Irish style..
http://www.thejournal.ie/court-issues-warrant-for-rapist-whose-arm-was-found-on-dublin-beach-135582-May2011/

Guy:Incognito

Basq wrote: »

I wonder would the same crime have been justified if the daughter was of age? Unlikely!

Well maybe if someone decides to rape her again in 11 years or so (is it 16 in the US?) they can test it out again.

Intensive Care Bear

"Paedos don't deserve punishment...they deserve gunishment

Nodin

bbam wrote: »

Wasn't there a case here recently enough where a convicted rapist disappeared immediately after being released from jail... His hand or something was washed up on a beach some time later.. must look for a link

Gardai have identified a human arm, found on Dollymount Strand last November, as belonging to a convicted rapist.
The man was named last night as 46-year-old James Nolan, of Fairlawn Road, Finglas, in west Dublin. He has not been seen since he was released from Portlaoise jail last November after serving a three-year sentence for a burglary in Booterstown, south Dublin, in 2005.

http://www.independent.ie/national-news/missing-rapists-arm-found-on-beach-2599990.html

The_Kew_Tour

I feel so sorry for that poor child and father.

steddyeddy

Yes most important of all is that the child gets the proper care shes needed. I cant imagine the suffering this child will experience throughout her life as a result.

ejmaztec

kingtiger wrote: »

what father wouldn't, he did well

I suppose you would get life imprisonment here

That's about three months.

ScumLord

Basq wrote: »

I wonder would the same crime have been justified if the daughter was of age? Unlikely!

He caught the guy in the act, I don't think it would matter how old his daughter was if a parent saw someone attacking their child they'd act immediately.

Basq

ScumLord wrote: »

He caught the guy in the act, I don't think it would matter how old his daughter was if a parent saw someone attacking their child they'd act immediately.

While I've no objection to the sentence - it was justified - I'm saying I don't think it would have went that way if the daughter was of age.

bbam

Basq wrote: »

While I've no objection to the sentence - it was justified - I'm saying I don't think it would have went that way if the daughter was of age.

I don't think most fathers would worry about that... Its not like he stood back and weighed up the options, drawing up a mental list of pro's and con's factoring in his daughters age...
He stepped in and did what was required and should only be applauded for it..

muppetkiller

He should be given a medal. Any parent who was in this situation couldn't be feeling anything but utter Rage and is totally justified in my opinion.

ScumLord

Basq wrote: »

While I've no objection to the sentence - it was justified - I'm saying I don't think it would have went that way if the daughter was of age.

I don't know, I think the jury would still side with him. Given that he caught the guy in the act and did try to get the guy help it's still the same crime essentially.

Zebra3

Raping a five year old.

The mind boggles.

the_syco

steddyeddy wrote: »

I cant imagine the suffering this child will experience throughout her life as a result.

THe human brain is a wonderful object. Hopefully in this case, it will have blacked her traumatic experience as part of a mental defence mechanism, as it's something no kid should have to go remember!

fran17

finally a story where justice is actually served.good to know there is still places in the world where society aint turned into a political correct pussy

JohnMarston

Men get arrested

Dogs get put down

The raping baxterd falls into the latter

Rented Mule

Basq wrote: »

I wonder would the same crime have been justified if the daughter was of age? Unlikely!

It would have been justified in my eyes regardless of her age.

Basq

Rented Mule wrote: »

It would have been justified in my eyes regardless of her age.

I meant in the eyes of the law..

My name is URL

Basq wrote: »

I meant in the eyes of the law..

It probably would be justified. The right of self-defense extends to third parties acting in defense of the one at risk of harm.

http://law.onecle.com/texas/penal/9.33.00.html

hondasam

He did what any father or mother would have done in the same situation if they seen this happen to their child.

vicwatson

I wouldn't just kill the attacker, I go kill his family too, and his family's family.

The motherfooker :mad::mad:

My name is URL

vicwatson wrote: »

I wouldn't just kill the attacker, I go kill his family too, and his family's family.

The motherfooker :mad::mad:

Good lad.. you are joking, right?

vicwatson

My name is URL wrote: »

Good lad.. you are joking, right?

Joking? Heck no

hondasam

vicwatson wrote: »

I wouldn't just kill the attacker, I go kill his family too, and his family's family.

The motherfooker :mad::mad:

If they were innocent would you still kill them?

vicwatson

vicwatson wrote: »

Joking? Heck no

Yeh because it's their fault. You're forcing me to do this and I don't want to but.... :rolleyes:

fasttalkerchat

Straight forward case IMO. What he did should bear no legal consequence because:
Protecting his daughter from a very serious crime.
Happened immediately after said crime (not cold revenge)
Clear evidence and not acting on rumour.
He tried to save the scumbags life by calling 911.


In a case where someone kills a pedo vigilante style i find it hard to condemn but I understand convictions have to happen to maintain law and order.

vicwatson

hondasam wrote: »

If they were innocent would you still kill them?

Yes

Deleted User wrote: »

Yeh because it's their fault. You're forcing me to do this and I don't want to but.... :rolleyes:

Yes I would still kill them

fasttalkerchat

vicwatson wrote: »

I wouldn't just kill the attacker, I go kill his family too, and his family's family.

The motherfooker :mad::mad:

And do you accept death on behalf of your friends and family? Strange legal system you want implemented

vicwatson

vicwatson wrote: »

Yes I would still kill them

then you're as bad as him.

staker

vicwatson wrote: »

I wouldn't just kill the attacker, I go kill his family too, and his family's family.

The motherfooker :mad::mad:

Is that you Liam Neeson?

hondasam

vicwatson wrote: »

Yes



Yes I would still kill them

What is wrong with you? you would kill innocent people ffs I give up.

kfallon

Nothing wrong with what the father did imo.

However my heart goes out to the little daughter, her innocence may well be gone forever and there is a real possibility this will have psychological problems in years to come. Hope she overcomes them and goes on to lead a very normal life.

Amirani

vicwatson wrote: »

I wouldn't just kill the attacker, I go kill his family too, and his family's family.

The motherfooker :mad::mad:

Idiotic post.

fasttalkerchat

Deleted User wrote: »

then you're as bad as him.

To be fair murder and raping a 5 year old aren't really the same. Let's not get carried away.

Hopefully when he considers the implications on his revenge on himself (i.e. does he accept death for a family member) he will realise that his words were a bit rash.

fasttalkerchat

fasttalkerchat wrote: »

To be fair murder and raping a 5 year old aren't really the same. Let's not get carried away.

Murdering kids. That's just as low.