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Fake Rolex

  • 22-06-2012 1:02am
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    Registered Users Posts: 1,912 ✭✭✭I Was VB


    Seen a few Rolex for sale on a well known website being advertised as 'replicas' they seem to be of really good quality and come with the certs and boxes and extra's.

    But wouldja ever buy one?? Have to say i'm temped.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 475 ✭✭jimmy blevins


    rolex me bolex.


  • Registered Users Posts: 850 ✭✭✭celticcrash


    So you want to be a fake poser? hmmm.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,165 ✭✭✭Savage Tyrant


    I Was VB wrote: »
    Seen a few Rolex for sale on a well known website being advertised as 'replicas' they seem to be of really good quality and come with the certs and boxes and extra's.

    But wouldja ever buy one?? Have to say i'm temped.

    I would if I had the chance to inspect it first, see how the hands move and feel the weight of it... But buying a fake online, you're pretty much guaranteed a shoddy piece of shîte.
    Depending on the price, I'd most likely advise you to swerve it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,705 ✭✭✭Johro


    So you want to be a fake poser? hmmm.
    Took the words right out of my mouth.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 34,567 ✭✭✭✭Biggins


    I Was VB wrote: »
    Seen a few Rolex for sale on a well known website being advertised as 'replicas' they seem to be of really good quality and come with the certs and boxes and extra's.

    But wouldja ever buy one?? Have to say i'm temped.

    No.
    The fake thing is easy to spot and makes the wearer look a right muppet and pretentious.

    I prefer Raymond Weil watches to be honest.
    Less bulky - more slimline.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,674 ✭✭✭Dangerous Man


    You can buy genuine Rolexs used online a lot cheaper than you'd think. Do a google search and find a reputable dealer.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,800 ✭✭✭Senna


    I'll stick with my Casio calculator watch, thank you very much.


  • Registered Users Posts: 850 ✭✭✭celticcrash


    You could buy a ferrari keyring also and hang it from the side of your trousers.
    You would be real cool dude.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 34,567 ✭✭✭✭Biggins




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,204 ✭✭✭dodderangler


    A bloke asked me if I wanted a Rolex in town And showed me it
    Told him it looks more like a STOLEX to me now piss off


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  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 92,624 Mod ✭✭✭✭Capt'n Midnight


    Like the high class escort called Rolex. Same price, different movement.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,082 ✭✭✭Squ


    rolex me bolex.
    Bravo sir.


  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 60,171 Mod ✭✭✭✭Wibbs


    So you want to be a fake poser? hmmm.
    Yea. TBH there are vey few models of the real deal I'd wear myself. They're OK, they did a lot of innovating in the watch biz, but they're not all that on the quality front, especially under the bonnet and especially at the price.

    You can get fakes that are remarkably accurate, that would take even an expert a while to spot. I've seen such copies on various watch forums, built by members that are scarily "real deal". There's quite the cottage industry going on. Buying third party cases and then buying real Rolex parts on ebay and such(dials, hands, crowns etc) and making one up that way. IIRC you can make up something very close to the real deal for under 500 quid.

    Rejoice in the awareness of feeling stupid, for that’s how you end up learning new things. If you’re not aware you’re stupid, you probably are.



  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 23,556 ✭✭✭✭Sir Digby Chicken Caesar


    was watching one of the irish matches with a friend of a friend and he had some giant white space-age looking watch that we all assumed must have cost a fortune because it looked so ridiculous.
    3 euro watch from a pound shop.
    buy a cheap piece of **** and wear it with conviction, no one will suspect.


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,952 ✭✭✭Lando Griffin


    Wibbs wrote: »
    Yea. TBH there are vey few models of the real deal I'd wear myself. They're OK, they did a lot of innovating in the watch biz, but they're not all that on the quality front, especially under the bonnet and especially at the price.

    You can get fakes that are remarkably accurate, that would take even an expert a while to spot. I've seen such copies on various watch forums, built by members that are scarily "real deal". There's quite the cottage industry going on. Buying third party cases and then buying real Rolex parts on ebay and such(dials, hands, crowns etc) and making one up that way. IIRC you can make up something very close to the real deal for under 500 quid.

    and it comes with a cert so if your down the pub and some upstart is giving you grief just pull the cert from your arse pocket and thrust it in his/ her face.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,445 ✭✭✭davetherave


    Just get yourself a good gshock instead.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 81,220 ✭✭✭✭biko


    No offence but I find it sad when people buy fakes. It looks like they're trying to portray themselves as something they're not.
    Fake watches, fake brand clothes, fake car badges.

    Just buy something nice and stylish within your price range.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,593 ✭✭✭Northern Monkey


    If I had the cash I wouldn't buy a real Rolex, never mind a fake one. I honestly don't see the appeal of them.


  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Music Moderators, Politics Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 22,360 CMod ✭✭✭✭Dravokivich


    I Was VB wrote: »
    Seen a few Rolex for sale on a well known website being advertised as 'replicas' they seem to be of really good quality and come with the certs and boxes and extra's.

    But wouldja ever buy one?? Have to say i'm temped.

    What in the fúck kind of gobshíte would you need to be to think, "hmmm.... it says it's not real, but it comes with a cert confirming it's not real," as a selling point?

    Who the hell wants to verify a fake as a fake? :confused:


  • Registered Users Posts: 3,311 ✭✭✭weiland79


    I'm a Jeweller i have a shop. I see them every week without fail. Please do not buy one. When something goes wrong, which it invariably will, you have zero come back and zero chance of getting a watchmaker to repair it.

    Had a woman in the shop a few years ago that had bought one online for 800 euro. When it arrived it wasn't working and to make a long story short it was basically tough sh!t, throw it in the bin.

    What makes it worse was that she knew she was buying a fake, so no sympathy.


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  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 60,171 Mod ✭✭✭✭Wibbs


    and it comes with a cert so if your down the pub and some upstart is giving you grief just pull the cert from your arse pocket and thrust it in his/ her face.
    :D TBH I think they build them as a challenge more than anything. Some even have a real one. A bit mad Ted.
    weiland79 wrote:
    Had a woman in the shop a few years ago that had bought one online for 800 euro.
    800 quid? Jesus, fools and their money... There's a loooong list of really nice watches, new and vintage you could get for 800 euros.

    Rejoice in the awareness of feeling stupid, for that’s how you end up learning new things. If you’re not aware you’re stupid, you probably are.



  • Posts: 50,630 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Never understood this whole thing of buying counterfeit versions of high end products. Surely the reason you would buy such a good name is for the quality rather than just to look like you can afford something which you really can't?

    I just don't get it.

    Edit: Didn't see Biko's post - what he said!


  • Registered Users Posts: 3,311 ✭✭✭weiland79


    Even if for example one of the screws that hold the bracelet links together becomes loose and you lose it (which is common with fakes). You will find it very difficult to get a replacement. Weirs the Jewellers that stock Rolex in Ireland certainly won't supply it.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 10,808 ✭✭✭✭chin_grin


    Senna wrote: »
    I'll stick with my Casio calculator watch, thank you very much.

    Good morning, that's a nice tnetennba!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,191 ✭✭✭uncle_sam_ie


    Never understood this whole thing of buying counterfeit versions of high end products. Surely the reason you would buy such a good name is for the quality rather than just to look like you can afford something which you really can't?

    I just don't get it.

    Edit: Didn't see Biko's post - what he said!

    My wife bought a fake handbag for 50 bucks a few months back to wear at a wedding and no one could tell it was a fake. Saved me about a grand. I think that was a good reason to buy it.


  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 60,171 Mod ✭✭✭✭Wibbs


    I agree Whoopsie, though in some cases the division between real and fake can be hard to spot. Read a good book on the Italian mafia and faking high end stuff. Investigations found that in some cases the high end names were actually selling fake items as their own when their stocks ran low. Their genuine labels were found in these factories making copies. The copies were as good as, in some cases better than the genuine articles. These yahoos were faking everything, not just fashion stuff. Car parts, (scarily) aeroplane parts, electronics, medicines all sorts of stuff. They were in cahoots with a global network of suppliers, the Chinese(who have difficulty with the notion of copyright at the best of times) were big suppliers of raw materials and finished items.

    One crazy example concerned a bloke who trained as a dressmaker who was running a fake dress factory in Italy(under Mafia bosses). He was regularly asked to run up a fancy dress for mobsters wives and girlfriends, which he was happy to do. One day an order came through for one such dress. He thought the sizing unusual, very small and didn't match any of the lassies he was used to making dresses for. Plus there was no talk of a trial fitting and it was said to be an important rush job. So he came up with a design and made the dress and forgot about it. A few weeks later one of his daughters shouted to him to come in and watch the telly. The oscars were on and the usual red carpet guff. "Look daddy!!" says the daughter, "there's your dress!!". Sure enough it was and was being worn by some famous dolly bird actress and described as a [insert famous Italian designer here]. IIRC it may have even been Angelina Jolie. Someone with a big name anyway.

    Rejoice in the awareness of feeling stupid, for that’s how you end up learning new things. If you’re not aware you’re stupid, you probably are.



  • Closed Accounts Posts: 12,455 ✭✭✭✭Monty Burnz


    The fake Rolex thing is funny, in a way. Because Rolex somehow put in the minds of the general public that Rolex watches are the best and most expensive you can get (they are not either - not by a long straw) they created this massive fake market that you just don't get with watch brands that are higher up the quality spectrum. Has anyone one ever been offered a fake JLC, IWC, Audemars Piguet, Lange & Soehne, Vacheron Constantin or Patek Phillipe? But you can't walk 50 feet in some places without the chance to buy a 'Rolex' of some description.

    Their marketing is so good they created a massive rod for their own backs...


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,969 ✭✭✭buck65


    Get a nice Seiko or Citizen automatic instead. Should be within budget.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,117 ✭✭✭Rasheed


    I Was VB wrote: »
    Seen a few Rolex for sale on a well known website being advertised as 'replicas' they seem to be of really good quality and come with the certs and boxes and extra's.

    But wouldja ever buy one?? Have to say i'm temped.

    How much is it? Sure if it's not too dear, why not?? Enjoy it and when ya know it's a fake, you'll have no expectations!


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 12,455 ✭✭✭✭Monty Burnz


    Rasheed wrote: »
    Enjoy it and when ya know it's a fake, you'll have no expectations!
    Enjoy it how, though? As in 'ha ha, these fools think I'm wearing a real Rolex. But I'm not...' Not much mileage in that one for me, I'm afraid.

    In reality, I'd say most people who see even a genuine Rolex assume it's a fake.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,034 ✭✭✭Ficheall


    biko wrote: »
    No offence but I find it sad when people buy fakes. It looks like they're trying to portray themselves as something they're not.
    As opposed to when people pay silly prices for the "genuine article"?
    I'd be hard pressed to say someone with a Rolex was less "sad" than someone with a cheaper (assumedly functioning) Bolex.


  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Music Moderators, Politics Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 22,360 CMod ✭✭✭✭Dravokivich


    The fake Rolex thing is funny, in a way. Because Rolex somehow put in the minds of the general public that Rolex watches are the best and most expensive you can get...

    As Fred was huslting at the start of Short Circuit 2...

    "Rolex, you know the name, now own the watch!"


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 12,455 ✭✭✭✭Monty Burnz


    Ficheall wrote: »
    As opposed to when people pay silly prices for the "genuine article"?
    I'd be hard pressed to say someone with a Rolex was less "sad" than someone with a cheaper (assumedly functioning) Bolex.
    I disagree. Some people like cars, some people like watches, some people like horse racing. Some people spend a 10 grand a year on booze and fags.

    Do you have any hobby or interest?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,117 ✭✭✭Rasheed


    Enjoy it how, though? As in 'ha ha, these fools think I'm wearing a real Rolex. But I'm not...' Not much mileage in that one for me, I'm afraid.

    In reality, I'd say most people who see even a genuine Rolex assume it's a fake.

    Well that's it too, if I see a genuine designer handbag I'd always assume it's a fake and the woman could have paid hundreds! I dont know, I don't really see the harm in this lad buying a fake. If that's what he's in to, off with him!


  • Registered Users Posts: 48 Isis20


    If you really like it, why not? But if you're only thinking about it 'cause it looks like a Rolex, I would just save some more money and buy a real one. That will feel much better for yourself ;)


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,034 ✭✭✭Ficheall


    I disagree. Some people like cars, some people like watches, some people like horse racing. Some people spend a 10 grand a year on booze and fags.

    Do you have any hobby or interest?

    I do, indeed. Chess, music, reading...
    What do you intend to suggest it could be argued that I spend too much money on?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,990 ✭✭✭JustAddWater


    3 euro watch from a pound shop.

    He was ripped off ;)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 12,455 ✭✭✭✭Monty Burnz


    Ficheall wrote: »
    I do, indeed. Chess, music, reading...
    What do you intend to suggest it could be argued that I spend too much money on?
    Chess boards, music and books? Unless you listen exclusively to the radio, get your books from the local library and use the communal board and pieces down at the chess club.

    I'm sure if you give me a proper breakdown of your spending, I'll find some stuff there that someone else would characterise as waste.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 149 ✭✭Niall_G


    I was given one as a present years ago and it was actually quite a nice looking watch. After about a year some of the number lines fell off. I brought it to a jeweller to fix. He passed no comment but just gave me the collection receipt with "imitation Rolex" written on it! Put me in my place....


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,034 ✭✭✭Ficheall


    Chess boards, music and books? Unless you listen exclusively to the radio, get your books from the local library and use the communal board and pieces down at the chess club.
    We seem to be trying to make different points here. I was trying to make the point that someone spending silly money on a brand name watch didn't make a whole pile more sense than someone spending money that might be almost comparably silly on a replica. I have no issue with people buying watches - it's good to be able to tell the time, sometimes. It's just that, assuming Rolexes don't have some functionality benefit of which I am unaware (aside from the potential to impress and lure oneself some honeyed bitches, yo), then they're not really any better as timepieces than an ordinary, cheaper watch.
    You seem to be trying to suggest that I was implying that spending any money at all on a hobby was frivolous...

    I suppose the common ground for the two points is that we can agree that there are people who are really into their watches who might want to spend an exorbitant amount on a Rolex for their collection.
    I would suspect, though, that a large proportion of people who go for "Rolex" or similar "brand names" do so solely to be seen to have the brand, and may not know a tourbillon from a pendulum...


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,812 ✭✭✭✭sbsquarepants


    The fake Rolex thing is funny, in a way. Because Rolex somehow put in the minds of the general public that Rolex watches are the best and most expensive you can get (they are not either - not by a long straw) they created this massive fake market that you just don't get with watch brands that are higher up the quality spectrum. Has anyone one ever been offered a fake JLC, IWC, Audemars Piguet, Lange & Soehne, Vacheron Constantin or Patek Phillipe? But you can't walk 50 feet in some places without the chance to buy a 'Rolex' of some description.

    Their marketing is so good they created a massive rod for their own backs...

    I don't see it being much of a problem for rolex really. I would imagine that the type of person who is willing to splash the cash for a watch like a genuine rolex, is going to walk into a shop and buy it, they aren't going to get one for a score off a looky looky down the beach ,and vice versa - they guy who bought off the looky looky wasn't ever going to buy a real one anyway. They're 2 seperate markets. No?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,401 ✭✭✭Nonoperational


    weiland79 wrote: »
    I'm a Jeweller i have a shop. I see them every week without fail. Please do not buy one. When something goes wrong, which it invariably will, you have zero come back and zero chance of getting a watchmaker to repair it.

    Had a woman in the shop a few years ago that had bought one online for 800 euro. When it arrived it wasn't working and to make a long story short it was basically tough sh!t, throw it in the bin.

    What makes it worse was that she knew she was buying a fake, so no sympathy.

    Not true tbh. Whatever your opinion on fakes you can get a Rolex sub with a genuine ETA movement for around €200. 99% of people wouldn't tell the difference.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,468 ✭✭✭matt-dublin


    My rolex says relax on the face. The guy I bought it off in Mexico assured me the discount was due to the misprint on the face. I find it great, the batteries last forever in it! It's a rolex/relax asstaster, he said that was a misprint as well and should be oyster so he gave me an additional discount. I only paid $800 fr it as well!!

    What a bargain huh??



























    :D:D:D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 885 ✭✭✭Roadend


    My rolex says relax on the face. The guy I bought it off in Mexico assured me the discount was due to the misprint on the face. I find it great, the batteries last forever in it! It's a rolex/relax asstaster, he said that was a misprint as well and should be oyster so he gave me an additional discount. I only paid $800 fr it as well!!

    What a bargain huh??

    I nearly bought one of the ones that said relax, but a voice in my head said Don't do it


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,663 ✭✭✭Immaculate Pasta


    I bought one on holiday in Turkey when I was 14. I came back to school thinking I looked the dog's bollocks with my Rolex :cool:. It was ridiculously shiny, had fake diamonds and it was quite frankly, the business. It survived for about 7-8 months then when it was snowing I slipped down some steps and I smacked my wrist against the steps which snapped the strap and cracked the face of it and that was the end of the watch :(. Still it was good while it lasted.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,117 ✭✭✭Rasheed


    Roadend wrote: »
    I nearly bought one of the ones that said relax, but a voice in my head said Don't do it

    I honestly dont see the harm if the watch isn't too dear!!
    Are some of ye working for Rolex??!!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,468 ✭✭✭matt-dublin


    Are u sure u weren't singing Frankie goes to Hollywood. Relax, don't do it, when u want to go do it, when u want to come.

    Actually looking at the lyrics that's a filthy song!!


  • Posts: 24,714 [Deleted User]


    I wouldn't touch a fake watch, its pretty sad imo. A proper watch is something I plan to own at some point but I wouldn't even consider a rolex I don't like them. Breitling or Tag would be my watches of choice.


  • Posts: 50,630 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Wibbs wrote: »
    I agree Whoopsie, though in some cases the division between real and fake can be hard to spot. .

    I'm sure there are also high end fakes, no doubt they still come at a price. But people who come back from chinatown with fake Louis Vouitton bags, with brassy gold zips, or people who order "fake uggs" just so they can have the Ugg logo on the back of their badly made boots. It just doesn't make any sense to me.

    I have a few little designer luxuries that I love, Prada & Bvlgari sunglasses, an Anya Hindmarch bag etc. I absolutely love nice things but not fake things just for the sake of having a name on it.


  • Posts: 0 CMod ✭✭✭✭ Iker Rich Minion


    I don't like wearing a watch


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