Martin McGuinness to meet Britain's queen

Fenian Army

Pretty historic if this goes ahead!

Five years ago this wouldn't have even been up for discussion.

http://www.thejournal.ie/martin-mcguinness-queen-elizabeth-handshake-meeting-belfast-diamond-jubilee-496023-Jun2012/
http://www.thejournal.ie/readme/column-what-were-seeing-is-a-charade-sinn-feins-decision-is-already-made/

Think its good/bad? I think it would be a huge step for MMG to take to meet her

Roadend

Probably only thanking her for all the money they've "earned" out of Westminster.
"Cheers Liz"

MrJoeSoap

Another bit of publicity to help SF increase their foothold on Irish politics.

*vomits*

Persiancowboy

Zzzzzzzzzz....

Fenian Army

Lads yiz are awfully pessimistic!

I think the leader of the nationalist people meeting her would be much more significant than her meeting with McAleese was, it will have much more real meaning.

Mr.Crinklewood

He probably offer her a boat trip off the coast of Sligo.

Fenian Army

Mr.Crinklewood wrote: »

He probably offer he a boat trip off the coast of Sligo.

uh oh

squod

He'll be shaking a glove.

davet82

i'm more concerned with the rising price of coco-pops... €3.49 tut tut tut

Fuinseog

maybe he will spit on his hand before shaking.

he is an elected representative and should really be a little more diplomatic than that.

Crooked Jack

MrJoeSoap wrote: »

Another bit of publicity to help SF increase their foothold on Irish politics.

*vomits*

If he doesnt meet her he's living in the past.
If he does it's an insidious publicity stunt to dupe the southern electorate.
Bloody hell, what do you want the man to do.

Fenian Army

davet82 wrote: »

i'm more concerned with the rising price of coco-pops... €3.49 tut tut tut

I'm more concerned about what to do with the leftover chocolaty milk - seems a waste to pour it down the the drain yet if I drink it from the bowl that's piggish and I run the risk of getting chocolate milk everywhere. Any advice?

Highly Salami

Will he have to genuflect cap in hand?

amcalester

Crooked Jack wrote: »

If he doesnt meet her he's living in the past.
If he does it's an insidious publicity stunt to dupe the southern electorate.
Bloody hell, what do you want the man to do.

Retire.

MrJoeSoap

Crooked Jack wrote: »

Bloody hell, what do you want the man to do.

F*ck right off, preferably.

Highly Salami

Fenian Army wrote: »

I'm more concerned about what to do with the leftover chocolaty milk - seems a waste to pour it down the the drain yet if I drink it from the bowl that's piggish and I run the risk of getting chocolate milk everywhere. Any advice?

Pour from bowl into a cup or glass and drink from that.

shopaholic01

Crooked Jack wrote: »

If he doesnt meet her he's living in the past.
If he does it's an insidious publicity stunt to dupe the southern electorate.
Bloody hell, what do you want the man to do.

Well he could have met her when she was here. What's changed in little over a year?

davet82

Fenian Army wrote: »

I'm more concerned about what to do with the leftover chocolaty milk - seems a waste to pour it down the the drain yet if I drink it from the bowl that's piggish and I run the risk of getting chocolate milk everywhere. Any advice?

just guzzle the milk oink! oink! :cool:

My name is URL

If he refuses to meet her you'll have people lining up to say how he's a bigoted idiot.

If he agrees to meet her the same people will be shouting about how it's only a publicity stunt and so on.

Damned if he does and damned if he doesn't really.

The people that spout lines such as 'they should move on forget the past' should take their own advice.

davet82

shopaholic01 wrote: »

Well he could have met her when she was here. What's changed in little over a year?

sorry could you stay on topic we're discussing what to do with left over coco-pop milk

Crooked Jack

MrJoeSoap wrote: »

F*ck right off, preferably.

Yeah, he should fuck right off. I mean, he's only one of the most popular politicians in the country with a huge mandate, those people dont deserve a voice

shopaholic01

davet82 wrote: »

sorry could you stay on topic we're discussing what to do with left over coco-pop milk

But I don't like coco-pops

Biggins

MrJoeSoap wrote: »

Another bit of publicity to help SF increase their foothold on Irish politics.

*vomits*

If he don't meet her ye would be giving out.
If he does meet her - ye are giving out!

Some people are never bloody happy.

Its a step forwards - instead of backwards for gods sake!

Mr.Crinklewood

shopaholic01 wrote: »

But I don't like coco-pops

Racist.

davet82

shopaholic01 wrote: »

But I don't like coco-pops

GTFO!

MrJoeSoap

Crooked Jack wrote: »

Yeah, he should fuck right off.

That's the spirit.

annascott

I don't think that he should be allowed anywhere near her or anyone else visiting. It is a disgrace that he is allowed to be a representative of anything to do with Ireland, North or South.



Put chocolate milk from coco pops into coffee. You will have Mocha!

the purple tin

They'll probably get on like a house on fire when they meet. Sure look at Marty and Big Ian.

Fenian Army

annascott wrote: »

I don't think that he should be allowed anywhere near her or anyone else visiting. It is a disgrace that he is allowed to be a representative of anything to do with Ireland, North or South.

Yeah that whole democracy thing is an awful inconvenience isn't it?

shopaholic01

Mr.Crinklewood wrote: »

Racist.

davet82 wrote: »

GTFO!

I thinks they're a shinners breakfast tbh:cool:


rapidly gets coat and takes davet82's advice

My name is URL

annascott wrote: »

I don't think that he should be allowed anywhere near her or anyone else visiting. It is a disgrace that he is allowed to be a representative of anything to do with Ireland, North or South.



Put chocolate milk from coco pops into coffee. You will have Mocha!

A disgrace, Joe.. democracy, Joe.. The work of the divil so it is!

davet82

shopaholic01 wrote: »

rapidly gets coat and takes davet82's advice

:pac: wait for me!

shopaholic01

davet82 wrote: »

:pac: wait for me!

Sorry, already legged it:D!

Crooked Jack

annascott wrote: »

I don't think that he should be allowed anywhere near her or anyone else visiting. It is a disgrace that he is allowed to be a representative of anything to do with Ireland, North or South.!

Allowed?!?!? There's no allowing. He has been Mid-Ulster's preferred representative since 1997 and last year quarter of a million people wanted him to be our president.
Do you advocate the suppression of everybody you disagree with?

Biggins

Like it or not, Sinn Fein is making roots into the publics minds as to where to place their next vote.
(I expect them at some stage to become the main opposition. FF must be seriously worried. If they aren't they are fools - hang on a minute, they already are!)

Now I DO NOT agree with some of their ideology etc, but they have been more willing to change in some areas while sticking to other original foundation principles.

Pity the same can't be said for two other main parties who flip-flop and u-turn faster in two years than FF had done in ten!

c_man

Biggins wrote: »

while sticking to other original foundation principles.

A dual monarchy to rule over Britain and Ireland?

Dr.Strange

That man isnt fit to stand in Her Ladyships presents nevermind being allowed to touch her on her bum.

Immaculate Pasta

A drunken aul fella in a pub in Portrush told me that Martin McGuinness is in fact a spy and has been working for the Queen since the 70s. Make of that what you will :cool:

I Heart Internet

I don't see why its considered a big deal (boosted by Sinn Fein media chatter) for McGuinness to meet and greet the British Queen. If anything, its more remarkable that the Queen is agreeing to meet and greet him. Mary Lou McDonald was on RTE's Morning Ireland this morning making out that McGuinness' and Sinn Fein's decision was a tremendous act of bridge-building and that they were doing this for everyone on the island of Ireland. Self-serving waffle.

They'd want to grow up. McGuinness - you're an elected representative - act like one - shake the lady's hand and don't be making yourself out to be some kind of Gandhi-like innocent "getting over" all the horrible things done to you by the Queen and her Governement.

When the handshake does happen there'll be only one murderous thug in the room (depending on which helpers Martin has with him).

Morlar

Personally I do not think he should shake her hand.

Crooked Jack

Dr.Strange wrote: »

That man isnt fit to stand in Her Ladyships presents nevermind being allowed to touch her on her bum.

It would take a mean bastard to stand on her presents. I doubt he'll do that. Probably wont bring her one himself though

MrJoeSoap

Morlar wrote: »

Personally I do not think he should shake her hand.

Why not?

Paparazzo

My name is URL wrote: »

If he refuses to meet her you'll have people lining up to say how he's a bigoted idiot.

If he agrees to meet her the same people will be shouting about how it's only a publicity stunt and so on.

Damned if he does and damned if he doesn't really.

The people that spout lines such as 'they should move on forget the past' should take their own advice.

But the vast majority of people will be saying "who gives a shít?"

Morlar

Originally Posted by Dr.Strange View Post
That man isnt fit to stand in Her Ladyships presents nevermind being allowed to touch her on her bum.

Crooked Jack wrote: »

It would take a mean bastard to stand on her presents. I doubt he'll do that. Probably wont bring her one himself though

Was that the part of that sentence which seemed the most weird to you ?

Biggins

c_man wrote: »

A dual monarchy to rule over Britain and Ireland?

There was me thinking it was Gay Michel that wanted something like that: http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2056418985

fasttalkerchat

Immaculate Pasta wrote: »

A drunken aul fella in a pub in Portrush told me that Martin McGuinness is in fact a spy and has been working for the Queen since the 70s. Make of that what you will :cool:

You would be surprised how many anti-GFA republicans don't trust McGuinness to the extent that they think he is an agent!

In which Portrush pup did you deem that conversation a safe one to have?!

eviltwin

I have more respect for her than I do for him, she's an old lady, she doesn't have to do any of this stuff, she'll be in that job till the day she dies, you could see why she might not want to bother with all this stuff more so seeing as how a member of her own family was killed by the IRA, I think she shows real dignity in making this gesture and I think he will be a fool to refuse and will just end up looking like a pathetic dinosaur stuck in the past.

I Heart Internet

He won't refuse - the Sinn Fein goodwill ambassadors are working overtime. McGuinness is to be canonised for this heroic act of....ehm.....common sense and decency.

donbon

I Heart Internet wrote: »

Mary Lou McDonald was on RTE's Morning Ireland this morning making out that McGuinness' and Sinn Fein's decision was a tremendous act of bridge-building and that they were doing this for everyone on the island of Ireland. Self-serving waffle.

As is everything they say, like being anti-austerity in the South whilst introducing it in the North. Their policy is based solely on spouting what everyone wants to hear and god help the economy if they get into power down here in a few years.

Crooked Jack

Paparazzo wrote: »

But the vast majority of people will be saying "who gives a shít?"

and yet, here you are.

johngalway

Half the country met her last year. This isn't news, it's the same business as usual with SF being late to the party.