CENS ear defenders

dto001

Well Lads,
I was rooting around and spotted these CENS electronic ear defenders which claim you can hear normally, that it actually allows you hear wing beats small noises better when hunting and stops the noise of a shot!!! These are priced at between Has anyone €550 and €650 in Dublin!!!!! Has anyone used these and what are they like? before I start saving to get them!!!
Cheers

Chiparus

Link?

Sparks

I'm not sure I'd trust electronic ear defenders to be honest, they're not designed for high amplitude impulse noises (ie. gunshots, explosions, etc); they were mainly intended for constant low amplitude noises like engine noise in aircraft (which is where most of the R&D work was done on them). You get a mid-range pair of those and expose them to the noise of a gunshot, and they can take a few milliseconds to adapt to the noise. Your brain can't process the first few milliseconds seperately; it's too fast for both the ear and the brain, so you don't hear the strength of the initial bang and you think the defenders are working; but the hearing damage is done in the first few microseconds; so you're getting hearing damage but don't feel it until you start noticing the after-effects of the damage.

Personally, on the range I stick with passive ear defenders; I've always thought hunters should be using sound moderators.

gunhappy_ie

Any reason why you want those type ?

I use a pair of peltor Active hearing muffs.... not sure of the model but I think its the Peltor Sporttac: Peltor Sporttac

There brilliant !

A feature I never use is but its got a stereo jack if you wanted to plug in an MP3 . Newer models have bluetooth as well

herea a link to a standard set on ebay: Link to ebay

GH

dto001

Heres the link:
http://www.censdigital.com/online_demo.html

I want these type because they are in ear and are not as bulky for hunting as they sit in your ear. another reason I want these as you aparently can hear normally ie during duck flights etc. plus a safety reason if you are shooting with friends you know where they are!!

Vegeta

Sparks wrote: »

I'm not sure I'd trust electronic ear defenders to be honest, they're not designed for high amplitude impulse noises (ie. gunshots, explosions, etc);

The peltor sportac ones are

they were mainly intended for constant low amplitude noises like engine noise in aircraft (which is where most of the R&D work was done on them). You get a mid-range pair of those and expose them to the noise of a gunshot, and they can take a few milliseconds to adapt to the noise. Your brain can't process the first few milliseconds seperately; it's too fast for both the ear and the brain, so you don't hear the strength of the initial bang and you think the defenders are working; but the hearing damage is done in the first few microseconds; so you're getting hearing damage but don't feel it until you start noticing the after-effects of the damage.

I definitely wouldn't skimp on them either. Saying that though any sort of active digital system could easily cope with the above i.e. it doesn't react to sound it samples the sound first and then decides whether to feed it to your ear or not.

Personally, on the range I stick with passive ear defenders; I've always thought hunters should be using sound moderators.

Can't argue there. There's no need for active stuff on the range and removing sound from the source (moderators) is the best solution for everyone.

When it comes to rough shooting with a shotgun in the field, the Peltors are awkward and I fear for them in the rain. They're great for hide shooting like pigeons and ducks but not so hot for pheasants when jumping ditches and the like.

Chiparus

http://www.cabelas.com/product/Hunting/Hunting-Accessories/Hearing-Protection-Enhancement|/pc/104791680/c/104734980/sc/104381280/Howard-Leight-Impact8482-Sport-Earmuff/708113.uts?destination=%2Fcatalog%2Fbrowse%2F_%2FN-1100132%3FWTz_l%3DSBC%253BMMcat104792580&WTz_l=SBC%3BMMcat104792580%3Bcat104381280

I have these after being recommended on boards, have to say they are superb , great protection , and comfortable.

deerhunter1

Sparks wrote: »

I'm not sure I'd trust electronic ear defenders to be honest, they're not designed for high amplitude impulse noises (ie. gunshots, explosions, etc); they were mainly intended for constant low amplitude noises like engine noise in aircraft (which is where most of the R&D work was done on them). You get a mid-range pair of those and expose them to the noise of a gunshot, and they can take a few milliseconds to adapt to the noise. Your brain can't process the first few milliseconds seperately; it's too fast for both the ear and the brain, so you don't hear the strength of the initial bang and you think the defenders are working; but the hearing damage is done in the first few microseconds; so you're getting hearing damage but don't feel it until you start noticing the after-effects of the damage.

Personally, on the range I stick with passive ear defenders; I've always thought hunters should be using sound moderators.

I have a pair of in-ear electronic ear defenders especially made for shooting, custom fit, have then a couple of years now, brilliant bit of kit. One thing great about in ear defenders is no sweaty ears from muffs:eek:, crystal clear conversations in the field, hear everything around you and does the job when you pull the trigger, got mine custom made in Kildare

dto001

Deerhunter Where abouts in Kildare did you get them and if you don't mind me asking how much did they cost?? and how long did they take to get??