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Neighbours have deserted dog for a month...

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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 70 ✭✭Bonus_Pack


    OP, I am truely shocked and upset at those conditions. To be honest, I think you should have no mercy. Those owners/women have already had their chance. If I were you I would have thrown the book at them - RSPCA, Police, Dog Warden, the works. IMHO, a person living in a 4th floor appartment has no business keeping anything bigger than a hamster, let alone a dog. Ideally I would not like to see animals kept in crammed semi-d housing estates either, but the situation described here is taking the absolute piss.

    If it turns out the owners left the dog to the woman in good faith under the impression she would look after it, then you really need to rat her out for what she is. I would not fall for her tactic of sorting it out. I would demand to witness the phone conversation via speakerphone to ensure she is telling the owners the full story and not feeding them a fairytale about you offering totake the dog.
    To me it reeks of her trying to pander to you to save face in case you tell the owner what she did. I'd rat her out if i were you.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 88 ✭✭DeeRottie


    I'm sorry but I can't stand by, I've just emailed this thread to the Dublin SPCA. This dog has a basic right to shelter, CLEAN water, care, etc and this is not being provided. I'm shocked and appalled at these conditions. The DSPCA have my full name and can pin this on me for reporting it which I am fine with that, I have no idea who anyone else on here is, no other names will be mentioned. Although I would suggest other people report this matter as the louder people shout then the more likely it is that we will be heard.

    Thanks for looking out for this dog OP.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,484 ✭✭✭username123


    I have also reported this thread to the DSPCA.

    I am appalled by the pictures of the conditions this dog is being kept in.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,122 ✭✭✭✭Jimmy Bottlehead


    I've good news.

    We talked to the 'friends' and convinced them to let us walk the dog. The dog is unbelievably energetic and playful, and loved the walk. Never seen a dog happier to play in grass before. We got back, and the friends were waiting for us.

    I explained that as there had been no reply from the owners, the dog would not be sleeping on the balcony as it was not suitable. I said we would take it in at least temporarily, and they agreed.

    The dog is currently skittering around our apartment after a walk with our own dog (the one who was lost and we homed about 2 years ago, documented here on Boards!) and is happy as can be with some company, warmth and food/water.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,484 ✭✭✭username123


    Fair play to you OP.

    I hope the DSPCA follow up and the owners get what they deserve on this.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 68,317 ✭✭✭✭seamus


    Fair play to you Jimmy for stepping in, a lot of people wouldn't be so proactive about it.

    At this stage, as the dog has been taken out of those conditions, there's not much any SPCA can do. Their primary objective is to save the dog from the conditions, which has now been done.
    In more extreme cases they can take a civil prosecution, but in this case a court would see it as minor neglect, and for any organisation which is funded almost entirely through charity such a court case is expensive when that money could be used to help other animals.

    I would however keep in touch with the SPCA and send them on the pictures. At the very least when the owners return an inspector can call out and educate them on proper care of the dog.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 8,411 ✭✭✭ABajaninCork


    Oh, I am SO happy to hear that! At least the little fella can have his own 'holiday' with lovely people like you and your OH to love and care for him! :D

    When are the 'owners' due back? What are the next steps, so's to speak.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,531 ✭✭✭Tranceypoo


    I've just read this thread from start to finish. Good on you OP for doing all you did for this dog, so many people would have just not even noticed or turned a blind eye, I'm glad it had a happy ending but is it just a temporary happy ending? What happens when the neighbours get back are you giving them back their dog? I would just worry that if they're the type of people who think it's acceptable to leave their dog on a balcony for a month, what's to say they won't put him back out there, you can't be on their case 24/7, it's just too sad to contemplate.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,122 ✭✭✭✭Jimmy Bottlehead


    Oh, I am SO happy to hear that! At least the little fella can have his own 'holiday' with lovely people like you and your OH to love and care for him! :D

    When are the 'owners' due back? What are the next steps, so's to speak.

    The owners are due back in a month's time. Apparently they've been gone a week, which seems about right for when she started waking me up. Oh yeah, the dog is a she :)

    I don't honestly know what our plan is. Right now, I don't feel comfortable giving the dog back to the owners knowing they left her here on the balcony exposed for a month. Right now, I believe I'll be telling them they're not getting the dog back based on the photographs we took and the squalor the dog was living in.

    Also thanks for all the support from everyone in the thread. I don't know how we keep finding these homeless/abused animals (this is the 3rd dog in 2 years!) but I couldn't let her stay where she was as she was.

    A quick shot of the gruesome twosome:

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 885 ✭✭✭Sappa


    Op I think a huge cause for the amount of animal abuse and neglect is that the laws are a joke in this country regarding the protection of animals.
    I hope one day this will all change and future generations can look back in disgust at how people like this were allowed walk away from their responsibility to this dog.
    You've done a good thing today op and it's folks like yourself and your gf who have helped defenceless little animals and given them a good life.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,099 ✭✭✭maggiepip


    I disagree that there is not much the DSPCA can do. There is a LOT the DSPCA can do. There is photographic evidence of the state this dog was left in. The situation is not resolved. The OP is very kindly minding the dog at the moment and thanks to him the dog is safe but the DSPCA still needs to be involved to decide what happens the dog.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 20,759 ✭✭✭✭dlofnep


    Awwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww!!!!!! :):)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 8,411 ✭✭✭ABajaninCork


    She looks SO happy! Look at her grinning face....

    Once again - Fair play to ye! :D


  • Registered Users Posts: 40 SpyderCats


    maggiepip wrote: »
    I disagree that there is not much the DSPCA can do. There is a LOT the DSPCA can do. There is photographic evidence of the state this dog was left in. The situation is not resolved. The OP is very kindly minding the dog at the moment and thanks to him the dog is safe but the DSPCA still needs to be involved to decide what happens the dog.


    I agree, I think it would be a good idea to contact the DSPCA and inform them of the situation, they will also be able to give you advice on what steps to take when the owners come back.

    Having said that I can't imagine that they would cause too much of a fuss they clearing don't care about her

    both dogs are gorgeous by the way :)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 88 ✭✭DeeRottie


    Jimmy Bottlehead you are a LEGEND! Well done for taking this poor doggy out of his misery. We need more people like you who see an animal in misery and don't just walk on by hoping someone else will deal with it.

    I do hope that there is still some involvement with the DSPCA; even if the only outcome is to scare these people straight! It may be (unfortunately) that the dog has to go back to them, hopefully it won't. What a lucky dog to have found you and your gf :D


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  • Registered Users Posts: 38 purejuice


    Well done for taking in this poor dog, some people should be hung for treating animals this way. I have just told my dogs how lucky they are :D to have the everyday comforts they have when there are poor animals living like this.


  • Registered Users Posts: 90 ✭✭Waterfordlass


    Op, you are a true angel for those without a voice. The photo of that lil' darling with your own fur baby warm the heart.
    We hear so much every single day of the unspeakable cruelty inflicted on innocent animals, and there are times when I give up on the human race.

    Thanks to you and your partner, that neglected girl has probably had the first taste of human kindness in her life.

    Thank God for people like you (and the good folk on here, who supported you), you renew my faith in humankind.

    Now, let's hope the spca can act, and have her removed from these 'people' for good to a wonderful forever home.

    ps: Hugs to the fur angels.


  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 9,775 Mod ✭✭✭✭DBB


    Big round of applause for you Jimmy Bottlehead! You wonder why these cases seem to find you... maybe your reputation of being a helpful soul is spreading throughout dogdom? :D

    It might not do any harm if you make tentative moves to find her a permanent home (assuming it won't be with you ;)) so that when the owners come back, you can present them with an immediate and easy (for them) solution to the problem they'll otherwise have with visits from the SPCA, Guards, and you keeping an eye out.

    It also has to be said, your own terrier is GORGEOUS!:o


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 858 ✭✭✭Sean Bateman


    Fair play to you Jimmy...you've done a very nice thing.

    I agree with other posters though - You need to speak with the relevant people ( the DSPCA?) to establish your rights and the position regarding the dog.

    Given their previous form, the dog shouldn't go back to them.

    Again, well done.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 37,309 ✭✭✭✭the_syco


    I know. Even though she's not the owner, I don't understand how she didn't do something already. I think she's just talking about being proactive now because she's been 'caught'.
    I'm thinking that the woman was doing the bare minimum, and will clean the place up, wash the dog, etc, the day the neighbours come back. I'd show them the photos, so the neighbours don't give her the job again!

    Fair play to you! Doggy looks awesome!


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,731 ✭✭✭Bullseye1


    Bravo Jimmy. For every douchbag in the world there is a great human being like yourself. Well done.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,672 ✭✭✭deman


    Jimmy Bottlehead, you deserve a medal. Well done.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,032 ✭✭✭3DataModem


    Not really into dogs, but impressed with what you've done.

    Let me know if you have a PayPal account and I'll whip you over the price of a couple of tins of food.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,964 ✭✭✭Cherry Blossom


    Please note - Fundraising etc. is not permitted on this site.


  • Registered Users Posts: 301 ✭✭seaniefr


    The owners are due back in a month's time. Apparently they've been gone a week, which seems about right for when she started waking me up. Oh yeah, the dog is a she :)

    I don't honestly know what our plan is. Right now, I don't feel comfortable giving the dog back to the owners knowing they left her here on the balcony exposed for a month. Right now, I believe I'll be telling them they're not getting the dog back based on the photographs we took and the squalor the dog was living in.

    Also thanks for all the support from everyone in the thread. I don't know how we keep finding these homeless/abused animals (this is the 3rd dog in 2 years!) but I couldn't let her stay where she was as she was.

    Hats off to you Jimmy!
    we got a rescue from the local council pound in Limerick and it took months to socialise & get him to normal happy doggy ways after i would guess a very crappy owner but he is there & we love him to bits:D


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,007 ✭✭✭Dodd


    Please note - Fundraising etc. is not permitted on this site.

    It was not Fundraising as Jimmy was offered money and simple said he was fine for dog food but if anyone wanted to donate they could donate to a place that need pet food and he linked a site.

    That is not the same thing.
    He did not ask anyone to donate.
    I for one will be donating to the place as I bookmarked it before you deleted a few posts.
    If anyone wants to know the site pm me or maybe Jimmy.

    This was the post but I have edit it to AJ's standard.

    <snip . . . and Banned>

    Mods, I know there are technicalities surrounding shelters and such, so please edit or remove if necessary.


  • Registered Users Posts: 313 ✭✭noddyone2


    <modsnip>


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,122 ✭✭✭✭Jimmy Bottlehead


    3DataModem wrote: »
    Not really into dogs, but impressed with what you've done.

    Let me know if you have a PayPal account and I'll whip you over the price of a couple of tins of food.
    Please note - Fundraising etc. is not permitted on this site.
    Dodd wrote: »
    It was not Fundraising as Jimmy was offered money and simple said he was fine for dog food but if anyone wanted to donate they could donate to a place that need pet food and he linked a site.

    That is not the same thing.
    He did not ask anyone to donate.
    I for one will be donating to the place as I bookmarked it before you deleted a few posts.
    If anyone wants to know the site pm me or maybe Jimmy.

    This was the post but I have edit it to AJ's standard.

    <snip . . . and Banned>

    Mods, I know there are technicalities surrounding shelters and such, so please edit or remove if necessary.
    noddyone2 wrote: »
    <modsnip>

    Just so people know, I've had offers of donations for dog food for the dog we took in - I'm kind of blown away by the kindness people have shown.

    However, my girlfriend and I are lucky enough to be able to afford extra dog food. I previously posted up a link to a specific animal rescue who were seeking food, but as fund raising is against the forum rules, there's no point arguing about it.

    I will just say, anyone who wished to donate to me or help me - please donate to any animal charity or rescue of your choosing. The money is needed there, and plenty of animals will benefit from it.

    Thanks :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 616 ✭✭✭LucyBliss


    It took me a while to get the courage to read this thread because if there's one thing that seriously frustrates and upsets me, it's hearing about a bad situation that I am either powerless or too far away from to do anything practical about. And if it involves animals, it upsets me all the more.

    OP, all I can say is you have my utmost respect for the time and effort you've put into ensuring that poor dog has a bit of comfort. And I think the reason cases like this cross your path is because God/the universe/whatever a person believes in knows that you will do something about it.

    I can't imagine the kind of mindset that would consider those conditions to be okay for a dog - for anything! - for a month. And I'm glad I can't because it shows that I have a soul and care about other creatures, and it's very heartening to see that so many others feel the same way.

    Those people really don't deserve to have that dog.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,123 ✭✭✭✭Gael23


    I think you should contact the DSPCA to ensure that the Dog doesn't have to go back and live with those people as they are clearly not capable of caring for her.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,302 ✭✭✭**Vai**


    Fair play Jimmy, well done. Those people obviously dont deserve the companionship of a dog. I wouldnt leave mine alone while I went on a daytrip nevermind a month long holiday. I hope you or some other dog lover gets to take the poor dog and show it a real life because its current owners clearly aren't capable.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 160 ✭✭cocokay


    i love jimmy bottlehead & his gf :)
    poor little thing its a disgusting way to treat a living creature.
    thank God u guys were around to save her!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,122 ✭✭✭✭Jimmy Bottlehead


    Just to update you guys...

    I've spoken to the DSPCA, who were very nice and helpful. As it stands, we'll be minding the dog until the owner's return. At that point, it's between the DSPCA and the owners.
    I can't say right now what will happen because I just don't know, but for now she's safe and happy here.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,263 ✭✭✭✭Borderfox


    well done Jimmy.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,122 ✭✭✭✭Jimmy Bottlehead


    And another update, this one sadder...

    My girlfriend got a text from the owners friend; here's the text (please excuse the mistakes, they're part of the text):
    My friend told me that if no one can keep the dog, I will leave the dog in the street cos they don't want it anymore in their house which is why I was upset... I'm really upset with them... so please let me know if you want to take the dog or not so that I will find somebody to keep that cos I can't afford to left the dog in the street

    So there we go. Poor dog has officially been ditched. On the plus side, it'll either be rehomed with us permanently or else rehomed down the line with a great home.

    I'm just in shock at how callous they are... maybe they hoped the dog wouldn't survive the five weeks and the problem would be solved by the time they got back :(


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 885 ✭✭✭Sappa


    And another update, this one sadder...

    My girlfriend got a text from the owners friend; here's the text (please excuse the mistakes, they're part of the text):
    My friend told me that if no one can keep the dog, I will leave the dog in the street cos they don't want it anymore in their house which is why I was upset... I'm really upset with them... so please let me know if you want to take the dog or not so that I will find somebody to keep that cos I can't afford to left the dog in the street

    So there we go. Poor dog has officially been ditched. On the plus side, it'll either be rehomed with us permanently or else rehomed down the line with a great home.

    I'm just in shock at how callous they are... maybe they hoped the dog wouldn't survive the five weeks and the problem would be solved by the time they got back :(
    Absolute dirt bags,they are back home in the Philippines Enjoying themselves and could not give a Toss about the little animal.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,772 ✭✭✭✭Whispered


    I've been following this thread and to be honest Jimmy, I breathed a sigh of relief at your last post. While callous and upsetting at least now you won't have to worry that the dog will go back to a home where it is neglected/unwanted. The dog is officially dumped, but officially safe too :) Really well done.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 88 ✭✭DeeRottie


    Oh no what a sad outcome! Poor little girl. I would again contact the DSPCA, as I'm sure that if you can't keep her then they surely will - even if they are full she could go on a waiting list??? An I'm sure they'll still be having a word with these irresponsible people. So crappy that you did the right and honourable thing and these people have just dumped her like that when they were found out :(


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,243 ✭✭✭✭Jesus Wept


    Personally I am relieved that they don't want the dog back. I wouldn't want her left in their charge again.

    Thumbs up to Jimmy Bottlehead. :)



    Edit: Oh and if I happen to live near you, I'd love to take her for extra walks and the other lad. :P


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  • Registered Users Posts: 130 ✭✭irishbarb


    You should still report them, how come you don't want to?
    I guarantee they'll have another dog got within the next few months in the same position.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 8,411 ✭✭✭ABajaninCork


    And another update, this one sadder...

    My girlfriend got a text from the owners friend; here's the text (please excuse the mistakes, they're part of the text):



    So there we go. Poor dog has officially been ditched. On the plus side, it'll either be rehomed with us permanently or else rehomed down the line with a great home.

    I'm just in shock at how callous they are... maybe they hoped the dog wouldn't survive the five weeks and the problem would be solved by the time they got back :(

    WTF????

    I had a sneaking suspicion that would be the outcome, but I really,really, really hoped that wouldn't be so....

    I am so sad and incredibly ANGRY about this. The poor little thing didn't deserve any of this. You sir, are an absolute HERO.

    What happens now?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,122 ✭✭✭✭Jimmy Bottlehead


    irishbarb wrote: »
    You should still report them, how come you don't want to?
    I guarantee they'll have another dog got within the next few months in the same position.

    I have reported them, one of my previous posts mentioned how I've reported it to the DSPCA.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 8,411 ✭✭✭ABajaninCork


    You know, it makes you wonder doesn't it? If that's the way these ******* clowns treat animals, what are they like as people? How do they treat people? I hope they choke on their food!! I don't want to write more as I am upset and very angry. Anything else, might get me a ban.

    How is the little lady Jimmy? Give her a hug and a kiss from us! :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,772 ✭✭✭✭Whispered



    What happens now?

    Jimmy bottlehead starts a poll and allows us people of API name his new dog. :pac: Then he, his girlfriend, his current dog and his new dog live happily ever after with loads of updates.

    Only Joking OP, You've done more for this little dog than a lot of people would. Whether you decide to hold onto her or rehome her, you've literally saved her life.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,736 ✭✭✭✭kylith


    I had really hoped that the owners had left the dog with their friends in good faith, and had no idea what was happening it. I'm very sad to see that they're so irresponsible. Good for you, OP, for helping this pup out.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,122 ✭✭✭✭Jimmy Bottlehead


    You know, it makes you wonder doesn't it? If that's the way these ******* clowns treat animals, what are they like as people? How do they treat people? I hope they choke on their food!! I don't want to write more as I am upset and very angry. Anything else, might get me a ban.

    How is the little lady Jimmy? Give her a hug and a kiss from us! :)

    If and when they get back, I'll be heading over to give them one mother****er of a bollocking, I'll tell you that. I've always been pleasant to them, but this is just bull**** and I'm not letting them think they got off easily. I also hope the DSPCA ream them out of it.

    If they didn't want the dog, that's fine, I'd accept that. Just surrender it, or rehome it; no harm caused. But leaving it to live in it's own waste on a balcony, exposed to the weather with no contact, for 5 weeks? :mad:

    The little lady is great :) We've named her Jake* and she's happily dozing here beside me. She's such a lovable, clumsy, affectionate dog, and very nice-looking too. Our own cat and dog are still trying to get used to her, but she's doing fine.

    * We chose Jake as she's a female, but she so looks like a boy-dog. Ironically, I worked in the Phillippines last year for a few months, and one manager out there was a cross-dresser called Jake. Jake was a boy, who looked like a girl, so the confusing name suits :D


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,203 ✭✭✭Pedro K


    irishbarb wrote: »
    You should still report them, how come you don't want to?
    I guarantee they'll have another dog got within the next few months in the same position.

    I have reported them, one of my previous posts mentioned how I've reported it to the DSPCA.
    I don't know the protocol, but can you report them to the Gardai, as, obviously, they don't care about the dog and were prepared to let it die slowly on the balcony.

    EDIT: Oh, by the way, fair play to you for taking the dog in OP.


  • Registered Users Posts: 40 SpyderCats


    The owners friend who was supposedly looking after the dog is at much at fault. I mean seriously! even if the owners said to her "all you have to do is throw some food at her," would you? I mean OMG.

    I was just wondering if maybe the friend realised how much trouble they could all be in and advised them to just give her up?

    Anyway I'm delighted that she is safe and well :) and I love the name Jake for a girl, I think that's really cool.

    Fair play to you and your girl, I wish you all the best of luck


  • Registered Users Posts: 215 ✭✭Salt001


    Well done Jimmy :D.
    It took me ages to read this thread,I was so sure that something awful was about to happen any minute like in a horror film.
    Although it is a horror story but one with a happy ending.
    Thank God those people didn't want poor Jake and now she has a life that all dogs deserve.
    They ask for nothing and give so much joy to our lives.
    I had to go and give my furry baby a big hug after reading this thread, she is a rescue dog and who knows what she went through before she was thrown over the wall of the shelter we got her from :mad: :( .
    We have her almost two years now and she has brought so much happiness into our lives :D.
    When I read about all the terrible things that happen in this world it is almost too much to think about but then when somebody like you Jimmy and your gf do something like this it gladdens my heart.
    The very best of good luck to you all.:)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 16,705 ✭✭✭✭Tigger


    op :

    well done and i'm glad you were there

    this is why apart from the odd iterim doggis adoption me and the wife raise money for the ispca

    it is crazy how much attention us animal lovers need to pay to barking howling animals cryiong out for anyone who has ears to hear


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