Line of Duty (BBC) **Spoilers**

pickarooney

pickarooney wrote: »

The 'fight' was ludicrous looking, like a first walk through of a stage play. The super meticulous forensics need not even checking for a pulse before going shopping was just inexcusably stupid. Jed Mercurio has made his name on realistic, rigourous procedures in his writing and this scene chucked that all out the window for a cheap shock.

it's tv, not real life. you could argue that the guy panicked and therefore didn't check because of that. it sets up something new in the series that they didn't do before in that the guy who went to the corruption squad now is in the sh1t and will need to try to keep that going - that's new and interesting imo.

Lovely Bloke

He did check for a pulse.

Ceist_Beag

Maybe someone can clear up the ending for me a bit as I was a bit lost on part of it. Why did Tim flick through a folder of evidence after he knocked out Roz and before he went shopping? And what was the bit about him putting on and then taking off immediately again the balaclava before he went into the shop?

Ceist_Beag

Ceist_Beag wrote: »

Maybe someone can clear up the ending for me a bit as I was a bit lost on part of it. Why did Tim flick through a folder of evidence after he knocked out Roz and before he went shopping? And what was the bit about him putting on and then taking off immediately again the balaclava before he went into the shop?

guessing that he put the balaclava on to avoid showing up on cameras outside the store. of course it also raises the question could he be the balaclava man? or else he did it to pretend to be the balaclava man. he also showed sighed with relief when he found the balaclava in the bag in his flat.

Lovely Bloke

Lovely Bloke wrote: »

He did check for a pulse.

he did - you're right.

Ceist_Beag

glasso wrote: »

guessing that he put the balaclava on to avoid showing up on cameras outside the store.

Possibly but tbh what would raise more attention - a guy arriving in a balaclava or one in a baseball cap with his head down?

glasso wrote: »

of course it also raises the question could he be the balaclava man? or else he did it to pretend to be the balaclava man. he also showed sighed with relief when he found the balaclava in the bag in his flat.

Yeah that's why I was asking as the same thought struck me but it just seems so unlikely. If he is balaclava man why is he asking for the case to be investigated? Is it that he is craving attention and doesn't like seeing the wrong man getting the credit for his acts so to speak?

Agent Coulson

A nice twist by having a cop transferred onto the case there who knows the undercover is an undercover.

Delta2113

Roz husband balaclava man you never know.

stargazer 68

Delta2113 wrote: »

Roz husband balaclava man you never know.

There is definitely something off about him!

Ceist_Beag

Good show so far but I am struggling a bit to join the dots. What exactly is the history between Roz and Tim? There seems to be a lot more between them that we haven't seen yet. Roz is certainly taking a lot of chances - is it really that easy to tamper with evidence though? Must admit I'm surprised it's as easy as knowing the code to enter the room and distract the guard for a few minutes!

Deise_vixen

Aaaaaa all the scientific mistakes last night drove me potty!! 
Tried to ignore them but I couldn't so I have to vent.........................
- There is no way in hell you can just change the number on an evidence bag with out signing to show who made the change, that would be a huge red flag to the forensic scientist who received it for analysis
- You can't just open a a "tamper evident" evidence bag with out signing it either. Again it shows that it's been opened and the forensic scientist would see this and flag it, not just drive on with the tests. 
- Forensic non-shed tyvec suits are non-shed for a reason so how did they find fibers on Ifield and then why did no-one question why he was wearing it in the first place?
- How did Roz know the password to the hyper vigilant security geek Ifields laptop? 
- No restrictions or locks or security codes or cameras on the forensics holding fridge, you can just open it and work way....really??   

I know it's not a sciency show but still that's too many mistakes for one episode. But I won't give up on it just yet, I'm hoping that some of these errors might come back to bite Roz on the arse yet. I'll give it one or two more episodes to be sure but if they throw in more unbelievable stuff then I'll have to switch off.*
*I will of course keep track on line to see who dunnit though ;)

Basq

^ And while we're at it.. I'm not sure they're even in a real spaceship in Star Trek! :pac:

This show has always been ridiculous and they will often bend (and often downright break) certain real life conventions to suit storylines.

Can't say it makes it any less enjoyable IMO!

heyjude88

Loved Season 1,2 and 3.

This one is good, just a bit too far fetched so far.

pickarooney

I'd say his laptop had a fingerprint scanner...

not too bad an episode. I hope that they can keep a good momentum going in this season - I have found that to be a problem a bit before - e.g. I thought season 2 dragged a fair bit at times - there were about 3 episodes in a row where it was just Keeley Hawes being interviewed and not a huge amount else.

frostyjacks

I like how they've done Vicky McClure's hair, simply tied back in a bun. In a lot if cop shows the girl detectives look like they just stepped out of a Peter Mark salon.

Agent Coulson

Fcuk!

Now a week to wait.

Basq

Agent Coulson wrote: »

Fcuk!

Now a week to wait.

Jaysus, can't have survived that surely..

cjmcork

Fastest hour of tv ever......omfg!

spud82

omg omg Foooocccckkk siiihhttt omg omg a week. don't take the effin lift.:eek::eek::eek::eek::eek::eek::eek::eek::eek::eek::eek::eek:

cjmcork

cjmcork wrote: »

Fastest hour of tv ever......omfg!

They just released a two min behind the scenes on twitter....I knew Martin C was Scottish but assumed he'd lost his accent......mother of god his accent is thicker than Billy Connolly's......I'm at Stringer Bell is English level shocked

kala85

Don't think it's as good as previous seasons

feardeas

Enjoying it, bit of a slow burner. What I always loved were the long interrogation scenes by AC12. Especially where they just line it all up although they usually come later in the series.

Steve must be dead surely, certainly Martin Compton's tweet suggests it and nobody could have survived that surely.

Not sure it's necessarily the husband, we were shown the number he rang a few times. Anyway looking forward to next week but will miss Arnott if he's gone to the big AC in the sky.

Surely one of the best bits was the new guy dismissing the idea of having a thing with witnesses, Arnot's face was priceless mix of pratt/no idea what you're missing mate.

pickarooney

All the time spent the showing Roz tending to her scratched arm and nary a mention of the HUGE GAPING GASH in the back of her head?

stargazer 68

Folk never saw the previous series. Is it worth watching them?

kala85

Dovies wrote: »

Folk never saw the previous series. Is it worth watching them?

Yes definitely. Series one,two and three are way better than series four in my opinion.

Series two and series three are two things on tv that I would highly recommend.
Series one is also good but you should watch season one in order to keep up with the story line for season two and three.

I watched the older series last year on netflix.

cjmcork

so it looks like

he's dead - if you look on imdb, Martin C has credits for 20 shows, where Vicky M and Adrian D have credit for 23.......:(

is the husband balaclava man or is it misdirection?

Shurimgreat

glasso wrote: »

is the husband balaclava man or is it misdirection?

Husband appears to be balaclava man. I would say Roz suspects this to be the case too and is trying to frame others and put the cops off the scent. Just how this fits into the overall conspiracy remains to be seen. Like previous seasons it started slow but is building momentum nicely.

Shurimgreat

Dovies wrote: »

Folk never saw the previous series. Is it worth watching them?

To understand the big picture, yes.

Basq

Shurimgreat wrote: »

Husband appears to be balaclava man.

I don't think so.. too obvious only half way through series.

pickarooney

The cop's husband is the killer had been done to death at this stage. We've no idea how Roz overpowered Tim from where she was but if her husband helped then their conversation at home about where she was makes no sense.

Shurimgreat

Well I did say "appears to be balaclava man". Its not clear who it is, but she may believe its him. That's the way its been presented so far. It would explain her attempts to frame others.

There is no way he helped her overpower Tim. Why the conversation is right but also why the need to hide her arm injury.

Its possible someone helped her, but it can't have been the husband.

Agent Coulson

AC-12 officer

murdered (maybe?)

on the way to see her husband I can't wait to see that AC-12 interview when they bring her in for questioning.

stargazer 68

Shurimgreat wrote: »

To understand the big picture, yes.

Started Season 1 last night - watched 3 episodes! Would have watched more but had to go to bed! Will finish it over the weekend. Cheers folks. Hooked!

mikeoneilly

Good show

Every conversation seems to have some mention of rank or pulling rank,it's comical.

DS this and DCI that

Cina

It's kinda hard to see the show going on without Steve, if he's dead. He's always the driving force behind the investigations and interviews. Certainly be interesting to see where it's going.

jojofizzio

Cina wrote: »

It's kinda hard to see the show going on without Steve, if he's dead. He's always the driving force behind the investigations and interviews. Certainly be interesting to see where it's going.

Agreed,can't imagine who will take the role of the dogged investigator-big shoes to fill...can't imagine it being the newbie(I'm assuming Kate will stay undercover...)
Can't wait to see next episode...

HiGlo

Just caught up on the ep.., Jaysus, can't believe that ending.... Looks like he's dead alright... Shame. He was super irritating at the start but i really quite enjoy him in it...

What i was thinking re the husband was, when he asked her was she seeing another man she had this long contemplative stare and then told him about AC-12...
My guess is like others said, she suspects it's him...
Her husband followed her when she left the house. She said she was going to work, but sneaks off to a private apartment... Then ages later he sees her rushing away from the apartment distressed and he goes to the apartment and finds yer man with his fingers cut off and kills him - thinking there was something going on with him and roz.... ( doesn't really make sense tho)
Hmmmm.... Like, she must have been the one to cut off his fingers cause he scratched her... She possibly doesn't know the husband was there....

Someone asked about Tim putting on balaclava etc... Based on his assumption there was now going to be another body (Roz's) he referred to the files & dressed up like balaclava man to prove that it wasn't Michael Farmer... as in, he couldn't be balaclava man, he's in prison....

ziggy

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HiGlo

Hahaha, Yeah, I woke up this morning thinking, "wait a minute, that doesn't make sense" hahaha...
Yeah, why would she cut his fingers off and take his stuff unless she knew he was dead... So maybe it wasn't the husband... She must have killed him alright.

JimboJones99

No doubt I'm over analysing at this point but Hastings introduced Jamie to Steve as James. Some hint to a connection with Jimmy Lakewell??

HiGlo

JimboJones99 wrote: »

No doubt I'm over analysing at this point but Hastings introduced Jamie to Steve as James. Some hint to a connection with Jimmy Lakewell??

Yeah, I instinctively thought was there some connection. Esp when it was parallelled with yer woman in a panic over the fact that she discovered the car was the husbands.... It seemed nearly like that info was going to slip into his hands and not be dealt with properly.
And given that Steve visited the husband, he called Jimmy straight away afterward and all of a sudden Jamie showed up... Strings being pulled....?

Shurimgreat

OK something else.

Roz was about to send a text during one of the interrogations of a witness, the female witness who said she was attacked by Michael Farmer. It was something along the lines of "I want out" or something. I forget exactly. It was a bit like the text Cotton sent at the end of series 3. So any ideas about this? Is she part of something bigger?

JimboJones99

Shurimgreat wrote: »

OK something else.

Roz was about to send a text during one of the interrogations of a witness, the female witness who said she was attacked by Michael Farmer. It was something along the lines of "I want out" or something. I forget exactly. It was a bit like the text Cotton sent at the end of series 3. So any ideas about this? Is she part of something bigger?

Yeah thats right but was it not "I'm coming in"?

HiGlo

I thought that was when she was keeping an eye on Kate.... Yer woman was freaking out about having to go to court and Roz thought that Kate wasn't going to be able to reign her back in.... She was going to come in and take over.... but Kate calmed her down and got her to agree to testify in court. So she didn't send the text.

Shurimgreat

HiGlo wrote: »

I thought that was when she was keeping an eye on Kate.... Yer woman was freaking out about having to go to court and Roz thought that Kate wasn't going to be able to reign her back in.... She was going to come in and take over.... but Kate calmed her down and got her to agree to testify in court. So she didn't send the text.

Ah ok, that's probably what it was.

Rega

Wait, what ...eh? Bloody hell

Marje

A fine example by Roz on how to turn everything to your favour - everyone looks guilty now except for her.

Kiwi_knock

Another brilliant interview scene, great watching Huntley turn the tables.

I wonder what Maneet is up to?

Poor 'James'

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