Portugal vs Spain

Kirby

Pre-match.

Kirby wrote: »

penalties with spain winning them.

Shoulda bet on it.

Joyce Country

Ronaldo bottled it.

Dunphy is spot on.

elefant

I have to say usually there's a load of bs about Ronaldo bottling it, and it is usually total bs. Every player makes mistakes now and then.

But as captain and star player, he really bottled it in the penalty shootout.

ArmaniJeanss

5th penalty is statistically the most likely to be missed, so the player with most bottle should be taking it.

Turtyturd

shrewdness wrote: »

What's he saying?

Ronaldo's ego wanted the last penalty to get all the glory.

JaMarcus Hustle

murpho999 wrote: »

Is it the coach's or Ronaldo's decision to go last?

Probably Ronaldos. Portugal had an entirely different coaching staff in 2006 and he took the winning 5th penalty against England then too. Probably something he asks for.

darced

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Thanx 4 The Fish

This could be the worst final ever.

OctavarIan

Maybe Ronaldo was going last because he was the player most able to handle the pressure? Was looking forward to seeing him take one though, I'm sure he has practiced hundreds of penalties with Casillas at Real Madrid.

Hopefully the final is exciting and not another game of possession football between six playmakers.

Nuri Sahin

It'd be funny if he wasn't even the 5th peno taker.

Paparazzo

Joyce Country wrote: »

Ronaldo bottled it.

Dunphy is spot on.

I can't believe dunphy said that. I'm surprised with you eamo







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closeline

Fabregas just said he wanted to take the 5th penalty. Same thing. Got lucky too.

Hank Scorpio

ArmaniJeanss wrote: »

5th penalty is statistically the most likely to be missed, so the player with most bottle should be taking it.

The lad who took the 4th one was clearly sh1tting himself, he went up ahead of Nani when it wasn't his turn. Ronaldo either bottled it or wanted the glory, either way he should have been one of the first

Tox56

closeline wrote: »

Fabregas just said he wanted to take the 5th penalty. Same thing. Got lucky too.

He's not Spain's captain, star player and best penalty taker

shrewdness

I really don't think Ronaldo bottled it at all. Ronaldo loves the big moment and would have wanted the decisive penalty to possibly win it and grab the headlines. It's not like he's slow to want to take penos, free kicks or whatever. You could see afterwards how annoyed he is he didn't get to take one. He's took them before and just didn't get the chance this time. Talk of no bottle is absolute bs.

closeline

RTE once again a joke. If Spain lost would they be saying why did their two centre halfs take a penalty before Fabregas.

monkey9

I don't think Ronaldo bottled it at all. He just wanted the glory!

pickarooney

What's that, four hours without a goal? Screw international football.

staker

murpho999 wrote: »

What a stupid attitude....a final against different opponents will be completely different.

No stupid attitude here, if Torres is on the teamsheet maybe then but I'd sooner open a fresh tin of paint and watch it go off.

adamski8

This talk is ridiculous, we wouldn't be having it if it wasn't ronaldo.

Kirby

pickarooney wrote: »

What's that, four hours without a goal? Screw international football.

So a team with Xavi, Silva, Iniesta and fabregas isn't creative enough for you?

High standards. Guess thats why you mod the creative writing forum.

SirDelboy18

Wouldn't have fancied Ronaldo from the spot anyway. Has missed too many in high pressure situations.

Jimmy Iovine

ArmaniJeanss wrote: »

5th penalty is statistically the most likely to be missed, so the player with most bottle should be taking it.

What statistics are you basing this on?

That might be a sound decision if you had quality players taking one ahead of you. Bruno ****ing Alves went 4th. The lad has struggled to string a few passes together the last few games. It was clear that a penalty under intense was going to be beyond him.

Renn

OctavarIan wrote: »

Hopefully the final is exciting and not another game of possession football between six playmakers.

Well Italy showed already that they're well able to play vs Spain so I can't see why it will be any different in the final.

Leiva

How good has Ramos been all tournament and what a peno for a center half .

Player of the finals so far for me .

Jimmy Iovine

adamski8 wrote: »

This talk is ridiculous, we wouldn't be having it if it wasn't ronaldo.

He is one of the two best players in the world (depending on personal choice) and as such he should be held to a higher standard than everyone else out there.

pickarooney

Kirby wrote: »

pickarooney wrote: »

What's that, four hours without a goal? Screw international football.

So a team with Xavi, Silva, Iniesta and fabregas isn't creative enough for you?

High standards. Guess thats why you mod the creative writing forum.

Obviously not if they can't score a goal between them. At least Greece winning was funny.

Neeson

Leiva wrote: »

How good has Ramos been all tournament and what a peno for a center half .

Player of the finals so
far for me .

That fellas a headbanger.

Giggsy11

Seán O'Sullivan ‏@OSullivanMUFC

Dear twats having a go at Ronaldo, the Portuguese coach said he'd decided the penalties order before the tournament.

cgpg5

Well it literally came down to a matter of centimetres. Had Alves' been that bit lower; Fabregas' that bit wider...

Think Ronaldo should be taking the first pen every day of the week. Overall not sad to see Portugal out but don't like seeing Spain in the final! Fancy ze Germans against them if they progress tomorrow.

Overall a boring encounter tonight which only came alive upon pedro's introduction.

closeline

No way did Ronaldo bottle it.

shrewdness

Leiva wrote: »

How good has Ramos been all tournament and what a peno for a center half .

Player of the finals so far for me .

Not a hope of getting it though, will go to an attacking player. Defenders have to be absolutely out of this world to get awards like that.

My money's on Ozil.

SirDelboy18

Jimmy Iovine wrote: »

He is one of the two best players in the world (depending on personal choice) and as such he should be held to a higher standard than everyone else out there.

If you recall the CL final, Drogba went last. Sometimes it works.

I can't imagine the most self-confident man in football not wanting to take a penalty.

All the same, he has missed too many penalties in high pressure situations.

Renn

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2006_FIFA_World_Cup_knockout_stage#England_vs_Portugal

hth.

Or hope this stops all the nonsense being talked.

shrewdness

Giggsy11 wrote: »

Seán O'Sullivan ‏@OSullivanMUFC

Dear twats having a go at Ronaldo, the Portuguese coach said he'd decided the penalties order before the tournament.

That doesn't matter though, this is Ronaldo sure. Everyone has to have a go at him now.

cgpg5

Leiva wrote: »

How good has Ramos been all tournament and what a peno for a center half .

Player of the finals so far for me .

Was ok but is shaky defensively wouldn't be in my top ten players of the tournament.

Good peno though, considering his last one ended up in row z!

Paparazzo

Kirby wrote: »

So a team with Xavi, Silva, Iniesta and fabregas isn't creative enough for you?

High standards. Guess thats why you mod the creative writing forum.

For a team with such talent, they're incredibly boring. They only got going after 100 minutes of football. Last Spain game was woeful too.

SirDelboy18

cgpg5 wrote: »

Was ok but is shaky defensively

Huh?!? He was arguably the best defender in Spain this year.

closeline

If Ronaldo had scored and Portugal lost he would still have been criticised.

wonga77

Great sign of a player who has missed in a previous shootouts and still has the balls to put the name forward for another one as Ramos did

Joyce Country

Renn wrote: »

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2006_FIFA_World_Cup_knockout_stage#England_vs_Portugal

hth.

Or hope this stops all the nonsense being talked.

he still bottled it tonight

shrewdness

SirDelboy18 wrote: »

All the same, he has missed too many penalties in high pressure situations.

He's 100% in International shoot-outs.

elefant

Renn wrote: »

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2006_FIFA_World_Cup_knockout_stage#England_vs_Portugal

hth.

Or hope this stops all the nonsense being talked.

Portugal's number one penalty taker went first in that one.

Orando Broom

My personal preference is for the best takers to go first, but you can understand the tactics behind putting them at the bottom of the order. It worked for Chelsea leaving Drogba till last.

Ronaldo has the type of personality I despise but the way he is scrutinized is absurd.

Ronaldo being pilloried is ridiculous, the list was set in stone; given to there'd so you have to trust that the teammates will be leaving Ronaldo with a potential shot at winning/saving the game.

SirDelboy18

shrewdness wrote: »

He's 100% in International shoot-outs.

He missed in the CL vs Barca in the 08 semi, Chelsea in the 08 final, Bayern in the 12 semi.

I think there's no doubt he was 5th, but he wouldn't have filled me with confidence going up to take one.

cgpg5

SirDelboy18 wrote: »

Huh?!? He was arguably the best defender in Spain this year.

Good footballer but poor defensively. Remember Theo Walcott ran rings around him earlier in year that's saying something.

Suryavarman

SirDelboy18 wrote: »

If you recall the CL final, Drogba went last. Sometimes it works.

I can't imagine the most self-confident man in football not wanting to take a penalty.

All the same, he has missed too many penalties in high pressure situations.

Yes but Drogba isn't Chelsea's best penalty taker. Lampard is and he went 3rd.

cgpg5

shrewdness wrote: »

He's 100% in International shoot-outs.

Did he not miss v England in Euro 04? Maybe I'm wrong...

DDC1990

cgpg5 wrote: »

Did he not miss v England in Euro 04? Maybe I'm wrong...

Nope scored both times vs England IIRC.

shrewdness

Seriously, what's with the demanding the way their penalties should be taken? Maybe they have a different strategy of leaving their best penalty taker later? It didn't work tonight but other times it does. Teams don't have to line up with their best penalty takers from 1-5, they can take them in any order they want!